Why try to recreate PP? Why not make something better?
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I thought there was a patent preventing EST used in a mix. Otherwise i have a few product suggestions for Androtics.
Does that patent affect MEO-EST, too?
Not in a “mix.” You can mix it 'til the cows come home. The patent covers scented products, e.g., colognes with EST. Also A-1 is in the same boat. That’s why IFM is unscented. Kinda a blessing in disguise to lose the fermented fruit smell that plagues many androtics product.
Well, we discard EST, do you agree with TAF in PheroProof/MX101?
No, its a completely different molecule. Erox/Pherin’s patent only covers Estratetraenol and Androstadienone. ![]()
Jasmin, thank you very much for the answer.
Could you please tell me what is exactly patented? The production process? The molecule? Could Androtics include EST in a premade mix (like Ammo, for example) as long as you buy the molecule from erox? Or can you sinthetize the molecule but cannot include it in your mixes? Or Androtics cannot do anything but buy it from them and resell it?
Is it simply that nobody can make a mix based on EST or Androstadienone if it is perfumed? Or you cannot make a mix based in them, perfumed or not?
Thank you very much, Jas, o’ queen o’ knowledge ![]()
AFAIK, anyone can make the molecules and sell them. The patent only covers using these molecules with fragrance.
Our dienone and estratetraenol is synthesized here on American soil for us, and are both reference sample quality (meaning its the EXACT same synthesis as what they use in better academic studies, like Regina Maiworm’s work with A1, for example).
From what I understand, we can make and sell mixes with them, but only sans fragrance.
It’s clear now for me Jas, Thank you!
So, PheroProof can’t carry EST or Androstadienone because it’s Ammo-scented. Two discarded. There are a few pheros left
. Maybe the descriptions in the official page aren’t very similiar to the products that really are there, or simply are general descriptions. For example the descriptions of the known components are not very specific…
Is there someway to get a perfectly balanced mix between mx103 & mx203? Maybe get. . . mx306
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I know this thread is old, but i’m just wondering if the A314 on www.a314.com is exactly the same as what’s sold here? I’ve been wanting to try the oil for ages and the price on the website is $69 whereas here it’s $109.
Is it legit? I know Michael Harris is a phero-veteran but the site was made back in 2005.
Thanks ![]()
Yes but I believe that doesn’t work like that anymore. That was replaced my smartmones.com I believe. Steve should be able to shed some light on this one or John.
It’ll still let you place an order…
Don’t know what’ll happen tho’