2 nights ago, I first used my pheroproof. 3 sprays - 1 to top of chest, 1 to wrists ( then rubbed onto other wrist) & 1 to hair. I hooked up with 2 different girls at 2 diff clubs. But I had quite a lot to drink so i didnt look out for noticeable effects, so I can’t tell if it was just me or if the pheros had anything to do with it. On top of that, I was feeling great, was at the top of my game.
Tonight I went out and didnt drink, but I upped the dosage to 4 sprays, 1 to top of chest, 1 on each wrist and 1 on hair. I didnt notice any obvious reactions it was as though I didnt wear pheros. However, I was also sort of tired and wasnt at the top of my game, I only went out cos it was a mates gf’s bday. I was wondering did I possibly OD? Nothing was different as far as I could notice.
I’m fairly new to this whole phero scene, besides me having used pherlure before, I liked the smell of it, but I dont think it did anything for me. So I want to know,
how would u define “HITS”? what are some examples?
Whats the effective range of pheros namely PP?
As girls would have to have a chance to smell it before it can take effect, does walking past a girl give her sufficient time to smell it on me? or would it require me to be in the “effective range” for a while for them to smell it?
A question for futurists or any experienced phero users or experts, would u suggest I tweak PP with the androstenol or androstenone u supplied along with PP? If so, by how much?
Has anyone mixed I.Shine or I.Honesty with PP? Whats the result?
I’ve used pheromones a few times when I wasn’t feeling great (tired, etc.). At those times they had no effect. Other times when I’m feeling great and the top of my game they work fantastic. They seem to amplify the state you are in.
I think its very possible to to OD on Pheroproof, but not likely after only 2 days and the dosages you mention. I used 3 sprays one day and could smell very strong none the following day. After a few days this buildup could become very strong and cause a major OD. I only use Pheroproof one or twice a week.
It appears that your chemistry may be similar to mine. I suggest backing off to 1 or 2 sprays, and not tweaking until you’re familiar with the basic effects at that level.
Of course, that’s similar to the advice Futurist gave me, and I didn’t follow it. I’m still alive. But I have to admit it was good advice, if not quite as memorable as the path I did follow.
Yep, that’s the way it is. Don’t even waste your time if you’re depressed, angry or burned out. Makes it even worse. Good acting skills really can help put you in the correct frame of mind for sucess.
i wanted to see some exaggerated effects so i went bananas with PP yesterday and applied 6 sprays - 3 to front of neck, 3 to back.
the whole time i was out i was very self conscious of the scent and worried that i was a walking cologne bottle. luckily nobody avoided me or stared.
went to blockbuster to return a movie, no reactions. i thought maybe excessive OD and people just ignored the confusing pheromones cloud.
then i went to panda express to get my dinner and recognized the giggling-hard reaction from the 2 female cashiers. at first i was horrified that they were laughing at how strong my cologne was lol(since it was 3 sprays to my neck i was smelling it the whole time). then the cashier helping me started to forget her routine- swipe my card, pack utensils, get receipt etc. she was fumbling with the togo box and couldn’t get it in the bag and i had to help. i remember seeing this fumbling effect when i used to massively OD on the Edge and Scent of Eros. (bank teller couldn’t give me the right change and i had to help her count) when i left the cashier was blushing a bit and said happy mothersday.
i still wanted to make sure the cologne part wasn’t overwhelming so i went to barnes and nobles to linger around the magazine section to see if i repelled anybody. after 20mins, didn’t notice anything and nobody behaved any different.
Th scent in PP fades pretty fast so, although strong at first, it’s mellow an hour later. I’ve tried half a dozen zaps of PP and haven’t noticed any ODs and the desired effects seem better.
If you notice blushing and befuddled cashiers again you should say something to inflame the moment. I recently had a young Asian cashier at Shirokiya turn into a puddle of befuddlement. I was wearing NPA and CTTM (on my way to Club Fem Nu–Korean strip club–so I loaded up). After 2 attempts she was unable to give the correct change (or talk) and I had to count it out for her too! Her coworks looked very concerned. I told her she was really cute (she wasn’t) and was so embarrassed I thought she was going to faint.
I tried to post my questions last night but it didnt work, so here i go again.
How do u know that its the PP working for you not a placebo effect? I’m not a non-believer nor a full-on believer, I’m just neutral to opinions. Im still learning about it and after the bottle of pherlure my believe has kinda dropped.
How do you get -none buildup? I shower like 3 times a day, morning,after gym, before i go out, wouldnt that be enough to wash off the previous applications of -none?
And these questions are still unanswered, if anyone could help me it’d be sweet.
how would u define “HITS”? what are some examples?
Whats the effective range of pheros namely PP?
As girls would have to have a chance to smell it before it can take effect, does walking past a girl give her sufficient time to smell it on me? or would it require me to be in the “effective range” for a while for them to smell it?
I read some posts by members and they say they get eye contact and consider them HITS - so wouldnt u have to be within the “effective radius” for the girls to smell the pheromones and be like in that radius for a short enoug period of time? and as for eye contact, how do you know its not a physical attribute but rather related to the pheros worn?
A question for futurists or any experienced phero users or experts, would u suggest I tweak PP with the androstenol or androstenone u supplied along with PP? If so, by how much?
Has anyone mixed I.Shine or I.Honesty with PP? Whats the result?
You might try reading my first reply more carefully.
Perhaps the best thing to do is see if you observe differences in the behavior of others rather than trying to define “hits.” I don’t find I get blatant hits with PheroProof. The social interactions seem to go more smoothly though.
2, 3, 4 When wearing pheromones I’ve seen unusual behaviors at distances that would make normal smelling seem improbable. However, the mechanisms of pheromone perception are unclear. Even a short whiff is enough for identification, and that may cause lingering and developing interest. It you’ve got a thing for red hats, how long does it take you to identify a lady with a red hat? Do you have to be exposed for half an hour or so?
6 I haven’t felt the need to combine IS or IH with PP. It already has some similar effects. I do use a314 with it though and find a pleasing synergy between them.
I think the reason you did not feel as well the second night is because you were used to the pheros and they did not produce as strong a reaction as the first time. Pheroproof hits are unique . I have noticed a few people just start talking to me and they don’t realize why with PP. I also have really noticed better rapport with other males using PP. And it is hard to see it in clubs but in lit areas you can see pupils dialate and also notice a lot more eyes on you. :o
holy cow gegogi, 12 sprays of PP?? how did u apply all that without suffocating lol. 10 sprays on ur feet and 2 sprays on ur neck? just kidding haha.
so maybe 6 sprays wasn’t enough for me to see results at blockbuster or barnes and nobles. will try going for more next time, depending on how long i can hold my breath…
Do i really need to spray sooooo much to get a visible effect? eg 6-10 sprays?? like i mean, if we only get 200 sprays per 30ml bottle, 10 sprays will only last like 20 outing sessions and man PP aint cheap.
I only use PP on weekends so I doubt i should get a buildup on it??
This weekend I have a 21st on friday again and a 19th on saturday what would be the recommended dosages by you guys?
Should I try the sample Ammo supplied to me instead??
well, the 6-10 sprays is just so u can see for urself what a real ‘hit’ is like. not that weak eye contact smile stuff. im talking blushing speech impediment, super touchy feely kino, dilated pupil DIHLs, personal space invasion crowding, males giving u uber respect, all eyes on u kind of ‘hit’.
of course u don’t have to apply so much everytime, this is just so u can experience unmistakable results that PP is working. after that u’ll know what to look for and tone down the usage as u see fit.
personally i usually leave the house with 5-6 sprays of the Edge and refresh every couple of hrs with NPA/APC combo. PP’s too pricey for everyday usage like that.
The appropriate dosages vary by users’ race and by age. Other genetic and health factors may come into play also. Then there is the factor of different receivers responding differently to pheromones, with the same age/race/health/genetics factors coming into play for them also. People on the forum can’t give you a simple “right” answer that covers all possible combinations of these factors.
Advice may be a little better tailored for your situation if you mentioned your age/race/situation where you will use/people you want to effect and their stats/desired effects.
Edit - I see you’re 21. Young people generally produce more natural -none and get optimal results at lower dosages than older people. Good news for your budget. You might also read the “Bootcamp” sticky at the top of the men’s forum.
Can’t I just do say 3 sprays of PP, and extra androstenol or androstenone??
Man I dun wanna walk around with 6 sprays of PP smelling like a walking talking cologne bottle…I love the smell dont get me wrong, but I dun wanna be taken as “the guy who put too much on”
the Edge is my all time favorite product for the past 7yrs. over the top consistent sexual hits. NPA is exactly the same as Edge but in concentrate form so u can add it to ur favorite cologne. APC is just a cheap androstenone product with a nice scent that i add to the NPA. u can check out the lovescent forum to see what other users have to say about the edge and NPA and soe…etc.
i know EXACTLY how u feel. i was really self conscious of the scent when i tried 6 sprays. that’s why i’ve been asking futurist if he could make me an unscented PP as a custom order. haven’t heard back from him yet.
like i said, asians don’t OD as easily since we don’t produce much natural pheromones to begin with. im similar to gegogi in that respect. the more mones we wear the better the effects get.
Myself and some other users have reported they feel great with it and some drinks.
To answer your questions:
This is something you learn with experience. The more you use pheromones, the more you pick up on things that happen far more freqently with pheromones than without them.
It’s definitely not always apparent at first whether X was a hit or “she just was into me.” Long time users can spot hits way better. It’s about picking up on patterns in pheromone use vs. non-pheromone use.
The range depends on how much you wear. But the woman doesn’t have to be breathing down your neck nor conciously smell the cologne scent.
Someone can walk past you and instantly pick up on it. They don’t have to necessarily be with you a certain amount of time, although that does help. But some women, depending on where they are in their cycle (smell gets a lot better around ovulation), birth control and their individual olfactory system can pick up on a pheromone scent far quicker.
I wouldn’t tweak it until you’ve worn it 20 or so times and you know how different doses will behave on you. Then try one of the bonus products with it… just one. And work with that. After you have a good handle on that, work with the other in conjunction.
ps IMO, Pherlure isn’t pheromone experience so don’t let it affect your opinion of pheromones.
