Now by asian I mean southeast asian(think Indian). I’ve been reading a lot of the posts and noticed that every now and then someone mentions that asians produce less pheromones than other races.
This got me thinking…how true is this? I’ve never known an asian “ladies man” I always assumed this was because of cultural differences and family upbringing. But now that I look back, even tall good looking asian guys with money and good social skills are horrible with women. I mean asians are still the biggest supporters of arranged marriages these days.
So what’s the take on this? Do asians really have an issue with their pheromone levels? And could this issue of asian mens’ shortcomings with the opposite sex really be the result of an inability to produce bodily chemicals?
I don’t think that you can generalize “Asian mens’ shortcomings with the opposite sex” to anything as simple as pheromones. However, some of the things do line up.
Asians tend to have smaller bodies, and produce less testosterone. Therefore they have less -none (since it’s metabolized from testosterone) and less body surface area for it to be diffused. So definitely among Westerners, men who are producing much more -none (and other pheros, but specifically -none) and women who are used to a higher -none signature from men, there would definitely be a reason why they might have a harder time.
To write such utter trash means you’re either extremely ignorant, grossly misinformed, lived your life in a cave or are an unrepentant racist. I suspect a bit of all of the above. Asian men do not have any more shortcomings with the opposite sex than White, Black or Hispanic men. We get along just fine. Two billion Chinese say otherwise. If we had problems, Asians would have died out millennia ago. Furthermore, mones are only one tiny component of attraction and retention of mates. Humans are far more complicated than the insects and lower mammals you may have watched on the Discovery Channel.
Asians were subject to extreme racism in the USA. Only in recent years has their culture and appearance has gained wider acceptance among White Americans. Perpetuating stereotypes on a forum ain’t smart or cool. It’s hurtful and wrong. I recall being called a Jap, slant-eye, gook, etc., almost daily while growing up. I was followed in stores to make sure I didn’t steal anything and White girl friend’s families forbid them from dating me. I kicked a lot of ass because of it but soon realized I couldn’t fight everybody. America is a different place today and I see very little blatant racism and mainly acceptance of Asians among all races in here in Hawaii and the West Coast. Interracial dating is certainly more the rule in Honolulu than the exception.
To write such utter trash means you’re either extremely ignorant, grossly misinformed, lived your life in a cave or are an unrepentant racist. I suspect a bit of all of the above. Asian men do not have any more shortcomings with the opposite sex than White, Black or Hispanic men. We get along just fine. Two billion Chinese say otherwise. If we had problems, Asians would have died out millennia ago. Furthermore, mones are only one tiny component of attraction and retention of mates. Humans are far more complicated than the insects and lower mammals you may have watched on the Discovery Channel.
Asians were subject to extreme racism in the USA. Only in recent years has their culture and appearance gained wider acceptance among White Americans. Perpetuating stereotypes on a forum ain’t smart or cool. It’s hurtful and wrong. I recall being called a Jap, slant-eye, gook, etc., almost daily while growing up. I was followed in stores to make sure I didn’t steal anything and White girl friend’s families forbid them to date me. I kicked a lot of ass because of it but soon realized I couldn’t fight everybody. America is a different place today and I see very little blatant racism and mainly acceptance of Asians among all races in here in Hawaii and the West Coast. Interracial dating is certainly more the rule in Honolulu than the exception.
I agree 100%! Have been all over the Far East: Japan 2 years, Korea 2 times, Hong Kong and Thailand. Plus the Philippines and Guam which are Pacific Islanders. The soil in South Korea has been soaked with the blood of my relatives (1950-1953). R.O.K. (Republic of Korea)Marines are among the world’s finest and among the most loyal friends you’ll ever have. The same goes for Koreans in general, as well as the other asians I mentioned.
My best advise is to open your mind and educate yourself by making friends with some asians. Enjoy some culture and open new doors for yourself, add some color to your life.
wow, this post went really bad really fast. I never meant this to be offensive nor to turn it into an insult match but a couple of things…
First of all i went out of my way in the first line of the post to clarify that by asian i meant indian/pakistani. you guys are talking about japanese and korean asians. totally different races.
Second, Im half indian myself and my roomate is an international student from india. This thread came about after an hour long conversation between the two of us after looking up a research paper online that concluded that asians have the lowest testosterone levels out of all races tested. Also about two weeks ago we went to Dallas to celebrate my roomate’s cousin’s birthday with about 25 other guys from india, pakistan, bangladesh, and sri lanka and this was something they brought up as well.
lack of social mingling on one person maybe, but the combined personal experiences of close to 30 guys from 4 different countries talking about the same thing? come on…i don’t think this is about racism, i think this has to do more with culture and biology and a good deal of curiosity.
If i’ve offended anyone i do sincerely apologize but that was not my intent.
If you have any input on this please share because I know a lot of guys that are interested in this topic, but please no insults or racism…having been picked on myself all throughout middle school i don’t want any part in either.
Very sorry Meow, I briefly saw red and was ready to rip you a new one. In fairness, in the USA we define Southeast Asians as Thai, Vietnamese, Burmese, etc., not peoples from the Asian Subcontinent. Oddly enough, we once classified everyone from Europe, western Asia, and parts of India and North Africa as Caucasians! These classifications have fallen out of favor scientifically but are still in common use.
I really don’t think Indian males are patently less successful with women than other races. However, I suspect outside of the Asian Subcontinent racial prejudices and social rules certainly play more of a role in dating success (or lack thereof) than production mones or hormones.
gegogi, it’s fine thank you for the apology. Ya the asian thing is a bit confusing especially if you’re mixed. Electra, do you or anyone here know what works for this racial type. being half and half, i’m gonna have to do a lot of testing either way but a good starting point of knowing what works and what doesn’t would be tremendous help.
Not sure I’m trying to figure out what works for my boyfriend hes filipino/salvadorian primarily w some smatterings of chinese among other things.
Ammo and other stuff doesn’t have much of a radius on him. I’m thinking of trying A314 on him or TUTH.
I was thinking it may be a lesser output of -none but there really is no telling.I’ll look around and see if theres any mention of Asian/indian blends on here having better luck w x phero as opposed to y.Since I’m prowling the info anyway.
I think there was a commentary in phero theory by Mharris about the effects of the diet ie more soy products on the chemistry.You may look there if you’re into biochemistry and want to know more.
Sorry I’m not more help I’m fairly new here too.
My theory on it is that its not a lesser output but a softer output range or more subtle signature.
I have been around (& dated) several Sri Lankan women. And I must say they immediately responded well to androstenone (NPA). East Asian women are often uncomfortable with it until they get to know you well. So–wild speculation based on a few friends–Sri Lankan men may produce more androstenone than East Asian men. And my limited exposure to Indian women is they too were more comfortable with androstenone than both White and East Asian women. Again, speculation, but such comfort implies they have gotten used to androstenone I assume from their BFs, brothers, father, etc.
I suspect low T-levels in men are more related to diet and exercise habits than race. In other words, young bucks working out daily with weights tend to have higher T-levels than geeks eating junk food and hiding in labs and libraries studying. I can say without a doubt after I started working out and eating organic 7 or 8 years ago female attention increased considerably. Perhaps slightly higher T-levels changed my body chemistry a little. I suspect looking, feeling and smelling fit are really what matters.
I’m Sorry I took you wrong and sincerely apologise. I respect all races and cultures, I’m very fascinated by india, pakistan, bangladesh, and sri lanka.
