The best of P84 from the forum so far…
https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p84-a-juicier-version-of-p85/636/1
Tacitus (September 1, 2006):
“ P84… a juicier version of P85 ?
interesting to consider… the first round of P series 74-80 had a lot of -none analog sorts of things going on, with the strong exception of P74 itself… while the P series 81-88 so far seems to have more of a gender neutral brain tuning sensibility… P88 would be the exotic animal of this round, as P78 was the exotic animal of the last round (Harris and 8 ?) … where P86 is the sensitive-feely cat, P87 definitely has “monkey” force… quick thinking, energized, playful… P85 is a nice servicable focus, the image is a good talk show host moving at a light trot, and P84 is picked up to a decent canter, so some “horse” archetype ? I find P84 isn’t firing my judgemental neurons anywhere near P75-78 or P80 which can bring out grit, determination, cut-the-shitness, not always guaranteed to put you on the Christmas card mailing list of all the Happye Phonys in your vacinity… so **P84… well, uplifting… mind clicking away… words come easily… confident… the good side of caffeine without the bad side of caffeine… honest and clear in a good moodish way… then tapers to kind of an upbeat background music… useful stuff I think…**”
https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-a-nice-little-empathogen/646/1
Tacitus (September 3, 2006):
“…P87
P85
P84
definitely cleaner uppers, perception refiners, focus without tension, kind of flow state enhancers, with P87 being the high octane brother of this group…”
https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-the-holy-grail/420/191
Tacitus (September 21, 2006):
“ Whoa… I’m discovering new phero vocabulary… see other post
some phreaky things with P84… wowza… sumpin’ up with this “P” ”
https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-tac-p74-makes-women-comfortable-around-men/661/2
Tacitus (September 21, 2006):
“ go figure this P84… what an other love planet it is…
Took the old social TAA/TAC/P74 added in a shot of TAH, about 60 mu worth, and about 60 mu of P74, of which I had noted an ineffable “talk show host” almost… what… kind of smoothly flowing glibness… Conan or Leno on teflon wheels… anyway… spritxzed some around last night… seemed to hang out in the room until today… just outlandish… people we’re kind of kicking back and going into the most slick verbal social grooves… so in tune with each other.... picking up on this and that, switching it up and tossing it back… izzit the mix ? I got a “sure thing” hit off of this with a pure **P84… added in to the bigger pheromone salad it held its own as a playa… people wanted to hang out, do lunch, talk about sex… kinda interesting angle on hottitude… def’ not a -androstenol smoochy buzz, or the horny rasp of a -none, or even the jazz of **P79… this is a whole nother color on the sexuous spectrum…”
https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-tac-p74-makes-women-comfortable-around-men/661/5
Tacitus (September 23, 2006):
“ TAA/TAC/P74/Beta Androstenol/P84… and dykeism
this evolving oddity… I’ve caught myself tweaking into some pretty esoteric meditative states, thanks to the Beta Androstenol component I’d wager… has sprayed my pants with this mix… one guy wanted to do lunch and shoot the breeze all afternoon… a couple of days later my dyke friend was supersocial around me… as if I was now an honorary dyke and she could be as freely dykey as she wanted to… which is truly very dear and cute… wonder if the TAC isn’t signaling some frame of intimacy/security and the Beta Androstenol opens things up further… something about that darn beta toggle…the P84 looks like a “mouth accelerant” too, so it may be another beta-whatever… and the P74 is like a nice down comforter… while I was in full waft after the primary application a georgous Irish girl was just mowing me down with her eyes and body language… this was passing strange, while she was talking and giving me the Orgone Eye he face began changing like she was assuming another identity, it went deeper than a mere expressive shift, it was like watching the deep layer of muscles rearrange themselves into another person… clearly a Voodoo moment… and this wasn’t a dyke moment… ”
https://pheromonetalk.com/t/1-week-of-p83/1928/10
Tacitus (February 12, 2007):
“ Pure pheromeoes and balanced mixes can be drastically different
I think this is because pheromones and para-pheromones must appear in nature in complex bundles, like green tea has caffeine AND theanine which synergize to form a third effect… I’m constantly studying how “softeners” like P74, Estratatraenol, Alpha Androstenol and Alpha-Androsterone, (and to my mind P86, others may prefer TAK) and my old fave response modifier, IsoE-Super, will allow something like P83 to emerge as a “note” instead of an overload… many pure putatives have been to much of unbalanced intensity, like the straaaange but captivating P87, or “talk show” P84… man, P84 can do the most outlandish things, you really do feel like you’re, live, on the air… Oprah Spray I tells ya… so I’ve “noted” a sexmix with P84 and had…errrrr… very very talky sex… like fuckafuckafuckafuck… then sit upright in a couple of chairs an talkatalkatalkatalk… then back to… P83, IN moderation, “buried deep in the mix”… can put a focused, attentive, totally in the moment quality… so it might be great for performers too, say if you wanted a band to practice hard and get their gig super tight you might balance P83 for precision and Estratetraenol for groove…”
https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p85-a-nice-decent-buzz-with-no-profundity/635/3
Tacitus (September 13, 2007):
“Seems about right for both P84 and P85… P85 feels like a stronger version of P84… P84was my “talk show host” pheromone… you have this confidence exuding, let’s discuss the matter, active listening, getting through-ness…”
https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-to-test-new-putatives-like-p84-p94-and-p101/2511/1
Examine (March 14, 2007):
“p94 is very airy. sorta like alpha Androstenol
p101 is like taa
p84 is sort of like a A314 component.**”
https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-to-test-new-putatives-like-p84-p94-and-p101/2511/3
Examine (March 15, 2007):
“…it does smell different. i meant the vibe. it sorta has a happy vibe, shiny vibe–but its not too giggly like alpha Androstenol. i noticed at the bar, the waitress whom is an alpha female, never actually got into a conversation with me. just “hey you, whats up” this time..she gave me a drink, then we chatted, then, i asked if she had a custom drink..she made it…i went back to playing pool. then she came over to ask me about the drink. i said something like “whos at the bar?” she replied, “ah its dead and im bored”
i also asked her if she wanted to play, which she agreed, but then she had customers.
btw. i wore P84 2-3 hours prior. i noticed P84 stuck around for awhile.
the spray (101) does not command respect, and it creates a very very friendly vibe to others. i can see how 101 would be great for lonewolves, however, authority figures (boss) would see you as weak. i got picked on by my boss. and i mean she really drilled me. im usually very sharp tongue and defensive, but i just kept silent…which felt a bit emotional. that is very unlike me.”
https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-to-test-new-putatives-like-p84-p94-and-p101/2511/5
Examine (March 15, 2007):
“94 is like Alpha Androstenol. very giggly and light. it makes me feel free. airy.
84 is heavier, it sorta seems like A314 mutant…theres distance, respect, but theres also a bit of charm and curiosity from it.
its funny because i was talking to a blonde that supposedly never talks (she has very very clear crystal green eyes that are so sharp its scary like vampire style, she also has a ‘cold’ nordic face yet soft and pretty) but with P101 we were chatting it up, going on and on about pool, and semi-pros we knew in the area. during the very end when i was going to leave, i decided to sip another glass of kamakazi, this was a little after 7–i sprayed some P84, and she was way more distant, it was like back to normal, but she was glancing. it was odd. then when we spoke, the mood was more serious, but she was still lingering around. i had to initiate the convo, i said something like "hey ms. lbc " long beach for those that dont know, and she was like “what???” then she said “oh hey”, then came up, and spoke about how she wished more people were there. the first time with 101 she was like “nobody is here i wish i could play pool”
btw- when i spoke to the alpha latin girl, this was around the time i sprayed 101 (i had sprayed P84 some time before i left work, but not much, just 2 sprays to refresh a little) then, i left work and went to the pool hall, when i got there, i showered in P101 at around 4:30 . she left at 5, and was replaced by the blonde girl. then later on before i left, i sprayed 84 not much just 2-3 sprays.
i pretty much went back and forth every couple of hours. 101 comes off quick. and its been about 90F and very humid here in the valley.”
https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-to-test-new-putatives-like-p84-p94-and-p101/2511/6
Examine (March 15, 2007):
“…84 does not match tacitus. but that could be because i am comparing 84 with the lighter 101 thus seeing a drastic change.
sort of like Spaceland to IHx2–after using Spaceland, IHx2 will obviously seem much more serious than usual.”
https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-to-test-new-putatives-like-p84-p94-and-p101/2511/23
Tacitus (March 25, 2007):
“…I’m seeing so many combination effects now, where nuances of a P series can change the direction of a strong basic mix… and often it isn’t linear or easy to fully explain what the addition will cause…”
https://pheromonetalk.com/t/most-magnetic-pheromones-for-men/3796/12
Marik (June 17, 2007):
“…There is also something attracting with the P84-P85…”
https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mix-of-manly-sexy-putatives/4567/3
Marik (July 10, 2007):
“…For they all give a masculine vibe but each with a different taste.
P84seems to be the strongest of the mentionned above.
P85 is more gentle i found…”