Aside from 'the big four' (P 74, 79, 83, 93), what are your favourite putatives?

And why.

I am guessing P105 onwards are going to be released soon…

For me, my other ‘favourite putatives’ are:

  • P75 (doesn’t do too much in everyday life but adds something really Animalistic in intimate encounters - search posts by Gone with the Wind and Tacitus)
  • P85 (‘goofy’ and fun social putative that hasn’t been talked about much - search posts by m3turbo, SteveO and Tacitus)
  • P90 (nice friendly sharing vibe and adds something in intimate encounters - search posts by Examine, PheroQuirk and Tacitus)

Other putatives that I found useful are:

  • P101 (some kind of friendly effect but has a bad smell to it unfortunately which means basically it should be covered at all times IMHO)
  • P103 (seems to add something social and increases energy levels quickly though there is a burnout effect as well)

Putatives I didn’t like the results of too much:

  • P78 (seems to have a mildly friendly effect at times and also lessens verbal communication)
  • P80 (has some kind of ‘two dimensional’ authority figure image about it - seems to repel in 10 mcg+ dosages)

Putatives I didn’t see much from so far:

  • P82
  • P91
  • P99
  • P100
  • P102

P79 and P83 are the only putatives I’ve had reliable positive effects from.

P85 yielded more aggressive helpfulness from young female retail clerks.

Tested several times at different doses with no positive effects to report:
P80 (possible depressive effect)
P82
P99
P100

I still need to do further testing on the others I have, only tested them a couple times each with no discernible effect so far.

Interesting that you saw something ‘positive’ from P85 as well Carrie. I do think that putative is underrated.

I also want to add to my first post that I tried P84 as well but did not see much from it. Tacitus did say that P85 feels like a stronger version of P84 (see below)…

P85... a nice decent buzz with no profundity - #3 by tacitus

Tacitus (September 13, 2007):
“Seems about right for both P84 and P85… P85 feels like a stronger version of P84… P84 was my “talk show host” pheromone… you have this confidence exuding, let’s discuss the matter, active listening, getting through-ness…”

I’m experimenting with P96 lately.. rediscovering it combined with other stuff though..
seems to have an IFM effect on the ladies so far..

The best of P84 from the forum so far…

https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p84-a-juicier-version-of-p85/636/1
Tacitus (September 1, 2006):
“ P84… a juicier version of P85 ?

interesting to consider… the first round of P series 74-80 had a lot of -none analog sorts of things going on, with the strong exception of P74 itself… while the P series 81-88 so far seems to have more of a gender neutral brain tuning sensibility… P88 would be the exotic animal of this round, as P78 was the exotic animal of the last round (Harris and 8 ?) … where P86 is the sensitive-feely cat, P87 definitely has “monkey” force… quick thinking, energized, playful… P85 is a nice servicable focus, the image is a good talk show host moving at a light trot, and P84 is picked up to a decent canter, so some “horse” archetype ? I find P84 isn’t firing my judgemental neurons anywhere near P75-78 or P80 which can bring out grit, determination, cut-the-shitness, not always guaranteed to put you on the Christmas card mailing list of all the Happye Phonys in your vacinity… so **P84… well, uplifting… mind clicking away… words come easily… confident… the good side of caffeine without the bad side of caffeine… honest and clear in a good moodish way… then tapers to kind of an upbeat background music… useful stuff I think…**”

https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-a-nice-little-empathogen/646/1
Tacitus (September 3, 2006):
“…P87
P85
P84

definitely cleaner uppers, perception refiners, focus without tension, kind of flow state enhancers, with P87 being the high octane brother of this group…”

https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-lust-the-holy-grail/420/191
Tacitus (September 21, 2006):
“ Whoa… I’m discovering new phero vocabulary… see other post

some phreaky things with P84… wowza… sumpin’ up with this “P” ”

https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-tac-p74-makes-women-comfortable-around-men/661/2
Tacitus (September 21, 2006):
“ go figure this P84… what an other love planet it is…

Took the old social TAA/TAC/P74 added in a shot of TAH, about 60 mu worth, and about 60 mu of P74, of which I had noted an ineffable “talk show host” almost… what… kind of smoothly flowing glibness… Conan or Leno on teflon wheels… anyway… spritxzed some around last night… seemed to hang out in the room until today… just outlandish… people we’re kind of kicking back and going into the most slick verbal social grooves… so in tune with each other.... picking up on this and that, switching it up and tossing it back… izzit the mix ? I got a “sure thing” hit off of this with a pure **P84… added in to the bigger pheromone salad it held its own as a playa… people wanted to hang out, do lunch, talk about sex… kinda interesting angle on hottitude… def’ not a -androstenol smoochy buzz, or the horny rasp of a -none, or even the jazz of **P79… this is a whole nother color on the sexuous spectrum…”

https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-tac-p74-makes-women-comfortable-around-men/661/5
Tacitus (September 23, 2006):
“ TAA/TAC/P74/Beta Androstenol/P84… and dykeism

this evolving oddity… I’ve caught myself tweaking into some pretty esoteric meditative states, thanks to the Beta Androstenol component I’d wager… has sprayed my pants with this mix… one guy wanted to do lunch and shoot the breeze all afternoon… a couple of days later my dyke friend was supersocial around me… as if I was now an honorary dyke and she could be as freely dykey as she wanted to… which is truly very dear and cute… wonder if the TAC isn’t signaling some frame of intimacy/security and the Beta Androstenol opens things up further… something about that darn beta toggle…the P84 looks like a “mouth accelerant” too, so it may be another beta-whatever… and the P74 is like a nice down comforter… while I was in full waft after the primary application a georgous Irish girl was just mowing me down with her eyes and body language… this was passing strange, while she was talking and giving me the Orgone Eye he face began changing like she was assuming another identity, it went deeper than a mere expressive shift, it was like watching the deep layer of muscles rearrange themselves into another person… clearly a Voodoo moment… and this wasn’t a dyke moment… ”

https://pheromonetalk.com/t/1-week-of-p83/1928/10
Tacitus (February 12, 2007):
“ Pure pheromeoes and balanced mixes can be drastically different

I think this is because pheromones and para-pheromones must appear in nature in complex bundles, like green tea has caffeine AND theanine which synergize to form a third effect… I’m constantly studying how “softeners” like P74, Estratatraenol, Alpha Androstenol and Alpha-Androsterone, (and to my mind P86, others may prefer TAK) and my old fave response modifier, IsoE-Super, will allow something like P83 to emerge as a “note” instead of an overload… many pure putatives have been to much of unbalanced intensity, like the straaaange but captivating P87, or “talk show” P84… man, P84 can do the most outlandish things, you really do feel like you’re, live, on the air… Oprah Spray I tells ya… so I’ve “noted” a sexmix with P84 and had…errrrr… very very talky sex… like fuckafuckafuckafuck… then sit upright in a couple of chairs an talkatalkatalkatalk… then back to… P83, IN moderation, “buried deep in the mix”… can put a focused, attentive, totally in the moment quality… so it might be great for performers too, say if you wanted a band to practice hard and get their gig super tight you might balance P83 for precision and Estratetraenol for groove…”

https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p85-a-nice-decent-buzz-with-no-profundity/635/3
Tacitus (September 13, 2007):
“Seems about right for both P84 and P85… P85 feels like a stronger version of P84… P84was my “talk show host” pheromone… you have this confidence exuding, let’s discuss the matter, active listening, getting through-ness…”

https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-to-test-new-putatives-like-p84-p94-and-p101/2511/1
Examine (March 14, 2007):
“p94 is very airy. sorta like alpha Androstenol

p101 is like taa

p84 is sort of like a A314 component.**”

https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-to-test-new-putatives-like-p84-p94-and-p101/2511/3
Examine (March 15, 2007):
“…it does smell different. i meant the vibe. it sorta has a happy vibe, shiny vibe–but its not too giggly like alpha Androstenol. i noticed at the bar, the waitress whom is an alpha female, never actually got into a conversation with me. just “hey you, whats up” this time..she gave me a drink, then we chatted, then, i asked if she had a custom drink..she made it…i went back to playing pool. then she came over to ask me about the drink. i said something like “whos at the bar?” she replied, “ah its dead and im bored”

i also asked her if she wanted to play, which she agreed, but then she had customers.

btw. i wore P84 2-3 hours prior. i noticed P84 stuck around for awhile.

the spray (101) does not command respect, and it creates a very very friendly vibe to others. i can see how 101 would be great for lonewolves, however, authority figures (boss) would see you as weak. i got picked on by my boss. and i mean she really drilled me. im usually very sharp tongue and defensive, but i just kept silent…which felt a bit emotional. that is very unlike me.”

https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-to-test-new-putatives-like-p84-p94-and-p101/2511/5
Examine (March 15, 2007):
“94 is like Alpha Androstenol. very giggly and light. it makes me feel free. airy.

84 is heavier, it sorta seems like A314 mutant…theres distance, respect, but theres also a bit of charm and curiosity from it.

its funny because i was talking to a blonde that supposedly never talks (she has very very clear crystal green eyes that are so sharp its scary like vampire style, she also has a ‘cold’ nordic face yet soft and pretty) but with P101 we were chatting it up, going on and on about pool, and semi-pros we knew in the area. during the very end when i was going to leave, i decided to sip another glass of kamakazi, this was a little after 7–i sprayed some P84, and she was way more distant, it was like back to normal, but she was glancing. it was odd. then when we spoke, the mood was more serious, but she was still lingering around. i had to initiate the convo, i said something like "hey ms. lbc " long beach for those that dont know, and she was like “what???” then she said “oh hey”, then came up, and spoke about how she wished more people were there. the first time with 101 she was like “nobody is here i wish i could play pool”

btw- when i spoke to the alpha latin girl, this was around the time i sprayed 101 (i had sprayed P84 some time before i left work, but not much, just 2 sprays to refresh a little) then, i left work and went to the pool hall, when i got there, i showered in P101 at around 4:30 . she left at 5, and was replaced by the blonde girl. then later on before i left, i sprayed 84 not much just 2-3 sprays.

i pretty much went back and forth every couple of hours. 101 comes off quick. and its been about 90F and very humid here in the valley.”

https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-to-test-new-putatives-like-p84-p94-and-p101/2511/6
Examine (March 15, 2007):
“…84 does not match tacitus. but that could be because i am comparing 84 with the lighter 101 thus seeing a drastic change.

sort of like Spaceland to IHx2–after using Spaceland, IHx2 will obviously seem much more serious than usual.”

https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-to-test-new-putatives-like-p84-p94-and-p101/2511/23

Tacitus (March 25, 2007):
“…I’m seeing so many combination effects now, where nuances of a P series can change the direction of a strong basic mix… and often it isn’t linear or easy to fully explain what the addition will cause…”

https://pheromonetalk.com/t/most-magnetic-pheromones-for-men/3796/12
Marik (June 17, 2007):
“…There is also something attracting with the P84-P85…”

https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mix-of-manly-sexy-putatives/4567/3
Marik (July 10, 2007):
“…For they all give a masculine vibe but each with a different taste.
P84
seems to be the strongest of the mentionned above.
P85 is more gentle i found…”

The best of P85 from the forum so far is pasted in below… This one seems to me to be a useful social pheromone…

https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p85-a-nice-decent-buzz-with-no-profundity/635/1
tacitus (September 1, 2006):
“ P85… a nice decent buzz with no profundity

P85 I would categorize as closer to P87, perhaps without the keen clarity of P87… wore a good 30 mu of P85 and went out to eat… the room was soon upbeat and chatty… in a wholesome, talky way… like P87 there is some of the cobweb clearing, depression eliminating uplift… a lowering of self consciousness… nothing romantic though, no visual glows, no sexy rushes…”

https://pheromonetalk.com/t/most-magnetic-pheromones-for-men/3796/12
Marik (June 17, 2007):
“…There is also something attracting with the P84-P85…”

https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-mix-of-manly-sexy-putatives/4567/3
Marik (July 17, 2007):
“…For they all give a masculine vibe but each with a different taste.
P84 seems to be the strongest of the mentionned above.
P85 is more gentle i found**…”

https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p85-a-nice-decent-buzz-with-no-profundity/635/2
SteveO (September 13, 2007):
“Interesting little thing happened today with my testing of **P85! I know this is a way old thread, but what better way to keep the forum clutter free than to add to a tacitus thread. **

**I’ve been using P85 by itself for the last couple of days. Last night at a local book store some college kids got real chatty with me. It was the type of chat you reserve for “trustworthy” old friends. A little disconcerting to hear what they were telling me, but all the same, I got that vibe they felt as if they could relate to me. **

**Today at work my boss up and tells me how much he appreciates me and (no lie) how trustworthy he feels I am. He tells me he has a big project going in Mississippi beginning next year and he’d like me to run it. **

**We’ve always have had good talks but he has never said anything like that before. **

**I’m wondering what other people might be getting from P85 and if it is still being experimented with. I don’t see many new threads at all on it. **

I used 25 mcg unscented to back of hair at 9am.”

https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p85-a-nice-decent-buzz-with-no-profundity/635/3
tacitus (September 13, 2007):
“Seems about right for both P84 and P85… P85** feels like a stronger version of **P84… P84 was my “talk show host” pheromone… you have this confidence exuding, let’s discuss the matter, active listening, getting through-ness…”

https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p85-a-nice-decent-buzz-with-no-profundity/635/4
SteveO (September 14, 2007):
“Very interesting. I’m going to have to use this one for comfort building.

Thanks for the insight tacitus”

https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p85-a-nice-surprise/6979/1
m3turbo (December 2007):
“P85 a nice suprise

Today I added P85 to my usual cocktail of pheros and I am quite pleased. Ther were no negative reactions at all. Three different people from two different classes who I can never seem to get to talk to me finally came out of their shell a little bit today . P85 seems to be a sort of trustworthy adult type vibe . It seems to be a mature sort of phero. Not sexual but good for communication. More testing needed but so far so good. ”

https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p85-a-nice-surprise/6979/3
m3turbo (December 2007):
“Sometimes I opt to make my own blend of Androsterone, Stenol, and stenone to replace the ammo when I feel like using a different scent. But basically the mix is still the same. Adding P85 sort of gives you a little more credability and trustworthyness.”

https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p85-a-nice-surprise/6979/4
m3turbo (December 2007):
“Just an update, the girls who had sort of come out of their shell yesterday continued to do so even more today. P85 still good. Some girls who usually take notice of me have backed off a little so P85 is definitely changing my aura a little bit. More testing needed.”

https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suitable-pheros-to-use-for-a-shy-woman/7523/10
m3turbo (December 2007):
“P85 and or **TAL. These two really bring all females but especially the awkward ones out of their shell. ”

Now below are some potential ‘erotic’ reaction posts on the combination of TAF and Methoxyestratetraenone colloquially known as Meo-Est or MOET. Apparently these two were a great combo for cleaning the house, sorting, doing chores but there have been a few ‘sexier’ reactions reported as well. Obviously the power of suggestion could be involved in some user reports below but then again it is not the first time TAF has been largely involved in a mix giving somewhat ‘erotic’ reactions…**

Below the first set of posts which focuses on the Meo-Est/TAF combo, there are some further reports on Meo-Est on its own later in 2006 from IceHawk, Scottie2Hottie and live4themusic. IceHawk seemed to get vivid dreams with it while live4themusic got a super weird vivid dream from this molecule. Scottie2Hottie thought that Meo-Est didn’t really seem to do much on it’s own, but it may be beneficial as a “booster” for use in mixes. There is a really detailed post from live4themusic saying among other things that it might have helped attract a 16 year-old girl (making her act strange) and also that he felt fatigued with Meo-Est on in a similar way to consuming weed, car exhaust, or methadone.

The final set of posts is from 2007. Tater says that Meo-Est is like an enhancer, adding crudeness similar to MSG on food – so it can lead to worse reactions for instance. Interestingly, two vets with great insight (PheroQuirk and Tacitus) both lend their support to Meo-Est in their posts over 1.5 years after they first started using it. Tacitus seems to think it works best with TAC.

Enjoy…

Jasmin (January 6, 2006):
In her blog post, Jasmin applied:

  • 50 mcg of Methoxyestratetraenone

  • Hours upon hours later, she applied another 50 mcg shot of MEO-EST

  • And then before she went out, 20 mcg each of TAL and Beta-Androstenol.

Then the blog entry continues:
**"We come home, watchin’ the boob toob, and decide to fart around with high dose ‘pheromone applications again. It’s three of us, me, my SO, and my friend sitting like ducks on the couch together. I think something like 75 mcg of TAF was applied to S (the friend), and J (the SO) applied something liek 2 sprays Shine to 1 spray Openness. **

**As a bystander of the TAFadose I think I was feelign a little spacey and dartfocused, but that’s not nearly as interesting as… **
**Well, I briefly mentioned yesterday I had a deep gutteral feeling, like my entire viscera (my guts!) was pounding. The blood surging through the heart and lungs, stomach turning, throat swelling kind of gutteral feeling. Had it again, today. **
Listen up, horndogs, this might be of use to you. I was so blindingly aroused and squirming and in heat that I’d walk somewhere crooked like an S-curve ’cause I’d rather be on all fours. That gutteral feeling was like an evolution of the one yesterday,and it made me feel like swallowing up any man in my radius. I seriously had to evacuate to the other room; my cheeks were already flush with blood and everything…"

Estratetraenol - got another request. How much?
Jasmin (January 7, 2006):
"…I say “hungry” 'cause that’s exactly what the feeling was yesterday…

Hungry for looove…"

Kitchen Sink Hit
PheroQuirk (January 8, 2006):
" Kitchen Sink Hit
Second date (first time it’s just the two of us). Instant Shine 4 sprays + Instant Ammunition 2 sprays + half a packet Scent of Eros + 2 drops A314 + 1 spray Turn Up the Heat + 2 sprays Instant Female Magic + 2 sprays Impi + TAF 25 mcg + MOET 10mcg +1 spray Instant Openness + 1 spray Instant Honesty. Clove + Nutmeg + Black Pepper EO. (This was an important date to me )

Fabulous date over drinks & snacks. Girls next door staring and fascinated (my date had the sensation we were being talked about). Talk. Hold hands, snog, “I want to **** you”. “I am so wet”. Not particularly in character for this girl. I think the ****TAF+MOET contributed to the way she articulated this as I have never before received such a strong reaction to any combination of the other components. (Come to think of it, I don’t think I have had such a blatant response since I was 21). We don’t as we both need to be somewhere else early tomorrow, but it would have been possible. Hit!"

sexmix adventures
tacitus (January 8, 2006):
“…Did note with TAF +methoxy-est I did get a spontaneous erection, although my brain was thinking flu misery and a powerful need to sleep…”

methoxy. and estrateraenol
tacitus (January 10, 2006):
“…I do not experience any of the pure eroto-romantic mental rearrangement with MEO-EST, taken alone is feels like it is calmative and centering (in this one male sample), however, with TAF, when I added it to a standard high dose sexmix (something you would intentionally apply about 5 minutes before having sex with the idea of having really good sex) it seemed distinctly erotic… MEO-EST must be an accessory pheromone that combines with others to trigger something significant.”

New member but veteran user
itwow (May 18, 2006):
“…**TAF (10mcg/sp) + **MEO-EST (10mcg/sp)
- I’m not sure but this combo (1 spray each) seems to give me erections, more than the usual, for the past few days I’ve been using them. Maybe I’m thinking too much lately…”

Yet again. (Latina, MX113 + TAA oil)
Homura83 (October 9, 2006):
“**Meo-est and TAF work best on women you’ve just known,during that period where they would put more focus on you,and having these 2 pheromones would put them into hyperfocus mode.Try your VERY BEST to do everything right at that time and they’ll be impressed for a long time.After the first few meeting or so,you can totally remove Meo-est and TAF from the mix.I don’t want them to by hyperfocused everytime and that stresses me out.They’ll also be immuned to them.To prevent the usual games from getting accustomed to my mix I’ll also vary their doses sigmodially,sometimes low sometimes high,sometimes totally moneless.**As the great Tacitus once mentioned,if a women thinks you were ok yesterday(with pheromones),and you are ok today(moneless),you should be AOK with her tomorrow and so on…”

Yet again. (Latina, MX113 + TAA oil)
Homura83 (October 10, 2006):
“…Btw do use Meo-est and TAF sparingly.You really do not want people to be super focus everyday and get used to it one day…”

IceHawk (October 3, 2006):
“I dont think anyone will ever pinpoint the exact effects of that pheromone as it was specifically made to get different reactions by targeting a multitude of receptors.

Now as for a confirmed effect 50mcg [of Meo-Est] right before bedtime has so far been 100% effective in eliciting very clear dreams which I also easily remmember. Its becoming real fun going to bed at night.”

IceHawk (October 7, 2006):
“…Im not sure if it focuses me or anything like that. Im usually sensitive to most things, but pheromones pass me right by. none = edgy/energized; Androstenol = calm/goofy, rest dont seem to do anything to me conciously. I do see the targets react but not myself. So sleep seems to be a good judge for me of the subconcious effects. So far P79 is uber horny and Meo-Est gives intense vivid dreams all the time. Togheder are intense uber horny vivid dreams. Im not into that but some of you may be.”

Scottie2Hottie (October 24, 2006):
“Had a chance to spend some time w/ meo-est. Can’t say that I noticed any reactions from others, except for a couple of comments regarding smell. Once described as piss and the second time she said it was more like vinegar than piss. I did notice that it had the tendency to draw my attention internally, i.e. I was more aware of breathing, heartbeat, etc. I also noticed a bit of a mood lift. It had a “motivating” influence on me, but not the same as things like TAA or Instant Shine. When I use TAA or Instant Shine I have to do something moreso than meo-est, i.e. I can just as easily be idle w/ meo-est unlike TAA/Instant Shine. Meo-est does seem to accentuate my perception of my physiological responses to certain pheromones. It seems to make Instant Shine shine a little brighter and it definitely intensifies my reaction to the Androstenone in Turn Up The Heat. I OD on just 2 sprays of Turn Up The Heat “warm” and if there’s meo-est in the mix it’s very overwhelming to me so I can imagine that others may have a similar experience. Overall, it doesn’t really seem to do much on it’s own, but it may be beneficial as a “booster” for use in mixes.”

live4themusic (November 3, 2006):
“My somewhat inconclusive reflections on my time spent using meo-est:

I received a 10 mcg/spray bottle of this odd stuff a while back (a little over a month ago?), and still have between 20 and 40 sprays left, which I will come back to in 2-3 months when I am willing to test it as a standalone.

I conducted very few tests using MEO-EST on its own, without other pheromone products, and so I can’t give any concrete idea of the effects it might have on other people**. I do know that after a while of using it, I felt it added something positive to my interactions with some women (but have no idea what), which was why I kept adding it to my mixes. **Also, I liked the light Neroli scent it came with.

The one ‘hit’ I may be able to attribute to the meo-est was with this one girl (who is 1/4 Native American) in one of my classes, who is only 16, yet somehow in college and a sorority already. I obviously have no interest in her (read: her age, above), and she is also allegedly engaged, but one day on which I applied 3 to 5 sprays of meo-est throughout the day (which is more than I usually add), me and 2 other guys from the class were working on completing some of the questions from the study packet for the upcoming exam after class, and she was in the computer lab. She came over to us and started helping us with the questions, using the pretense that she wanted to make sure her answers were right. After we finished working on it, I started working on something else, the other 2 guys in the class left, and then she did too. Then, about 5 minutes later, she came back into the computer lab to get my phone number so she could ‘check answers’ later (I gave her the phone number, but my attitude underlying all communication with her made clear that I am not interested in anything outside an academic relationship, and that’s all it has been). We corresponded through phone and numerous text messages during the 2 days up to the exam (she is apparently one of those people who sends hundreds of text messages a day), and the day of the exam I met her in the lobby of the building class meets in, where pretty much everyone from the class was. I wore between 4 and 8 sprays of meo-est throughout the day (don’t remember when I applied it, or exactly how much, only that it was slightly more than the previous encounter with her, which was more than my usual use). When I got there, she made herself pretty much my personal tutor, correcting the answers that were wrong on my study packet, quizzing me, etc. The whole time she was acting ridiculously giddy, looking at me when she thought I wasn’t looking at her, touching me constantly for any reason, laughing at the dumb things I would say, and just acting like she was high on something in general (she wasn’t). At one point I said something funny which also validated her in some way (I don’t remember exactly what), and she started laughing then put her head on my shoulder for a split second, then pulled away, as if she was either confused or discombobulated (I believe the distinction is whether or not she was consciously aware of her bizarre behavior – I don’t believe she was).

Since then, I toned down my use of meo-est when going to that class, and her behavior has normalized.

I should add the following: In this period of time I was regularly using 2 drops mutantA314, in addition to 1-2 sprays of The Edge, so both days I most likely had these applications on as well. In addition, she hurt her leg sometime between the first and second account of interaction with her, and came into class the day of the exam using a crutch. It’s possible she had taken some kind of opiate, but I don’t believe it to be the case because I’m pretty sure I would have asked her and remembered if she had been, and because she was there to take her exam.

Now, onto the effects of meo-est on myself:
I conducted two serious tests of the effects of meo-est on myself, and can say that unless there is a narrow window of optimal effects that I keep under/over-shooting, it has absolutely none of the effects on me that other users have been reporting (making me want to clean things, a ‘nesting’ instinct).

The day I received it, I put a bunch on the skin right above my lip and under my nose. The way I did this was to unscrew the sprayhead, dip the bottom of the dangling sprayhead straw/tube/pipe-thing into the liquid, then dab the little droplet the collects on the bottom of the straw to the area right under my nose…

**The effects were pretty strong, and made me feel fatigued, but in a strange way that I’m not sure would help me get to sleep. I don’t know how to describe it, but it did not lend itself at all to productivity. The effects were similar, but not completely like, the following I’ve consumed at one point : weed, car exhaust (I drove around for a long time in a very old second-hand car that leaked exhaust), methadone (I’ve only tried this once). I did not feel creative or inspired as some report with weed.

So I felt really stupid, and decided that I must have actually experienced some kind of sick buzz from breathing the fumes off the alcohol in the product, and designed a slightly different test. I dabbed a lot probably 50 mcg+ onto one thumb, waiting for my thumb to dry down every time it got saturated with alcohol. After a while, I began breathing just the neroli fumes directly from my thumb (which smelled really strongly of neroli at this point). Same effects as the previous test. **I lay on a futon for a while, thinking about how much I felt like not doing anything, and I didn’t get anything done that night. Eventually, I fell asleep, and slept for 9 hours (which is a lot of sleep for me). 8 hours into my little siesta, I was supposed to wake up, but instead had what I believe was the most vivid and strange dream of my entire life, which I completely thought was reality at the time, and continued to for about half an hour after waking up: I thought my mom had discovered my pheromone use, as well as something I had jotted down into a notebook a few months earlier, which I’d rather not get into. But the dream was pervaded with an INTENSE feeling of uneasiness, and the entry I jotted down actually was clearly visible with what I am pretty sure is word for word what I had written down months earlier. WEIRD!

So yeah, inconclusive.”

MadisonTate (November 2007):
“High dosages of MEO-EST in combination with other pheros (or even natural pheros) creates stronger responses from certain people, without causing ODs as quickly, but irritates more people and seems to activate allergies more easily.”

MadisonTate (December 2007):
“Tater does not recommend using P79 or MEO-EST on their own. Some of the pheros MEO-EST amplifies are not nice pheros. You can have a very bad response, and its just not predictable.”

MadisonTate (December 2007):
“TAF and MEO-EST amplify different pheros. I havent figured out the list yet but mix + TAF is definitely not the same as mix + MEO-EST.”

MadisonTate (December 2007):
“Tater has described MEO-EST as a way to add oomph to a mix, but mentioned that it adds crudeness, like MSG on food. I think thats because it only amplifies certain pheros, and possibly only certain resultant pheros that your own body generates. Its a spin-factor kind of phero. TAF seems to be similar but theres only a little overlap in what exactly it does. TAF seems to have a consistent scattering effect, even across multiple people.”

MadisonTate (December 2007):
“…Correct, but theres more. Tater also believes that MEO-EST only enhances certain things, and CAN enhance your natural pheros too. But it also seems crude when it does it…kinda like MSG covers lower quality food but it still isnt as good as the real thing.”

Tacitus (August 27, 2007):
“ Gone missing… MEO-EST, P96… and the next series ?
Luckily I stocked a good supply of MEO-EST… that stuff is magical when you learn how to work it in to a mix just right… seems to love being paired with TAC… the two work off of each other in some fascinating romanto-erotic ways… plus the communication can be extrordinary… I’m only now at this late date really getting an intuitve feel for the nuances of MEO-EST… if you haven’t figured it out yet, don’t worry, your not alone… some of these ingredients don’t shine until you pair them correctly…”

Tacitus (October 20, 2007):
“ Re: More Forceful Massage
You want MEO-EST… I tested it in a massage setting, I had booked a one hour, the gal massaging me fully lost track of time, near told me her entire life story, gave me a mind expanding massage, ane we both staggered out of there 3 hours later and got the funniest look from the guy at the desk… MEO-EST and massage like cookeis and milk…”

Tacitus (October 20, 2007):
“ Re: More Forceful Massage
Rather… I was awestruck in the case of the three hour jobbie because I had some residue on my jacket from the day before, wasn’t even thinking too high wattage awareness, just threw the thing on and walked over to the building, put the jacket on the hooks on the rear wall and flopped down… that was a strong MEO-EST mix with a few other things, mostly the MEO-EST… must have been the equiv. of no more than 5 mu immediately applied… sometimes pheromones will kick your butt in the weensiest doses…”

PheroQuirk (October 19, 2007):
“…World Domination without Meo-Estis not possible, unless you are trying to do it in a sneaky underhanded cunning way. But if you want people to notice you doing it then IMO Meo-Est is required…”

PheroQuirk (October 26, 2007):
“…I’d noticed I wasn’t getting the ridiculous results that I remember getting around Jan 06. Pulled out the MEO-EST 25mcg (which I had been saving for special occasions) and back to take-over-the-room vibe. (Applied to enhance a social mix containing alphanol, TAA/Shine, A314, none/NPA, P74 etc).”

The best of P90 from the forum so far is pasted in below. I believe the limited testing of this molecule so far on the forum does not do it justice.

My own limited experience with P90 agrees with the notion that it does help with rapport/sharing of thoughts. It is interesting that both Tacitus and PheroQuirk thought that it added something to intimate encounters. I am thinking this molecule might be a good replacement for Beta-Nol - perhaps less ‘emotional intensity’/‘sharing of unfiltered thoughts’/‘serious, non-sexual vibe’ and more ‘only slightly serious (but not neurotic) rapport building with an erotic edge if things get physical’…

tacitus (November 30, 2006):
“ Did I underestimate P90 ?.. maybe so…

although it may require a stronger application, 100 mu + to kick in… at the gym I observed women were unusually animated, very chatty, almost noisy… same thing occured on the subway… even a reserved brit couple seated next to me became voluble… and I was afforded an unexpected degree of respect throughout the day… although not of the Clint Eastwood P80 variety, nor of the somewhat more erotic P83 variety*… the upper range putatives so far, P90, P91, P93 appear to have a generally civilized, well sociallized quality…* P90 quietly exudes what I might term “empathetic leadership” versus “authoritarian leadership”… in the direction of the wise, respected grandfather figure… I did notice that in important discussion during the working day, I could manage the very tricky balancing act of being direct and forceful while maintainin g rapport... I have never been good at that likable intensity trick… P90 seems to give one a boost there…”

http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/pheros-ever-got-you-laid-3792-2.html#post43561\\\
tacitus (May 6, 2007):
“…while P79,P83,P90,P93 all add some deep bodymind animal notes during sex…”

examine (May 18, 2007):
“ P90

If P74 were Instant Openness

P90 would be Instant Honesty

its social, but a little more serious, not as much as Instant Honesty, but for some reason, there is a sense of comfortable social understanding communication. It’s not wacky, but its as if you and a buddy are sitting down talking politics freely, non chalant over a glass of whiskey.**”

Jasmin (May 22, 2007):
“ Most magnetic pheromones for men?

What do you guys feel are the most magnetic pheromones? Pheromones that draw people to you, and keep 'em around?

I’m thinking P74 TAA, and a little TAH.

Some might include P90 Maybe even Beta Androstenol for select personalities.

What do you think?”

PheroQuirk (June 17, 2007):
“…I certainly agree with the comparison [of P90] to betanol - at 25 mcg there is an aspect of compulsive sharing to it. But yes - maybe more exchange of personal opinions and experiences without the emotional intensity of betanol. Sex was intense - this wasn’t the only thing I was wearing, but I wonder if there was some positive impact from the comfort created by P90**

I don’t have enough experience yet with P90 to have seen the empathetic leadership quality described by tacitus, but it certainly fits with the vibe I have felt so far.

Tomorrow I am working on a scene featuring two male buddies talking about life so I’ll try stepping a bit more strongly on the P90 and see what happens.”

Judging from a flurry of recent detailed forum reports, MEO-EST has been ‘rediscovered’. It looks like the molecule definitely has some kind of ‘mind-altering’ characteristics to it and seems to definitely add something to dream activity (or at least remembering dreams). Note both IceHawk and live4themusic in the previous lot of posts (the ones I posted on January 19 of this year) also noticed this increased ‘dream activity’…****

nbully79 (January 25, 2008):
“ MEO-EST: The only thing I want to clean is my pipe

There were a lot of earlier reports saying MEO-EST might be triggering cleaning instincts in the user. **On me, the self effect was very sexual, but it was more physical rather than mental. I was sleeping alone, but the night was intense and I kept getting erection all night long which brought sexual thoughts in my mind, so strangely the effect was other way around. Don’t even ask me about the vivid dreams I had!
**
It smells very much like my sweat, which is also strange. The first time I tried it my friend (girl) asked me if I was hot and sweating. So it definitely needs to be covered well.

I can see how it might be very effective when used by a woman. I need to explore it more to see the best way for me to use it. Nevertheless I think it’s a very effective molecule!”

nbully79 (February 2008):
“I had probably 10-15 mcg on me but there must have been a lot of fumes near my pillow as I was sitting there while spraying from the 30 ml bottle to a to-go bottle.”

sugarspice (February 2008):
“ Dude where’s my burger…the TAF, MEO-EST memory lapse

So I got my package of TAF and MEO-EST. I Sprayed two side of my head with TAF @ 2.5mcg and a Spritz of MEO-EST @ 10mcg to my hands. I wasn’t dizzy but i notice a little bit of time lasp between frames. Kind of like watching a show where someone flashes popcorn at you for a split micro second.

I could have been imagining. Then I start to feel a little itch in my pants…(not that kind of itch) like there was something crawling on me. it was an ant, when I saw it i freaked out. i can’t really say what that means. Other then I am super senstitive.
**
**Anyways, I get to Jack in the Box I remember ordering, I remember getting my card, getting it back, and I remember waiting for my food. Then I look down between passenger and driver seat and there is a bag of Jack in the Box food. For the life of me I don’t remember receiving my food. How did it get into my car!!! I don’t use drugs havent had a drink for months. That was crazy.

I must of blanked out a good 30 frames. I drove back to my place to wash off the MEO-EST
**
WEIRD!!!”

sugarspice (February 2008):
“Ok, I did it at night before I slept. Showered everything off prior. Yikes what a crazy night. So just for kicks I did two sprays of MEO-EST 10mcg, and two TAF @ 2.5 on top of head. I was tossing and turning alittle, then it happened. Again that almost-dizzy-but-not-really feeling came through. I opened my eyes in the dark and i could tell it was blurry. I was like maybe I’m trying to see this, so I close my eyes and ignore it. Toss and turn again. Finally got to sleep.

The weirdest thing of the night was all of a suddened I would hear a loud sound, like a buzz. It was that sound you hear when someone’s talking in your ear to wake you up. When I snapped to it I realize it was a dream state. Then I went back to sleep. And just like an Edgar Allen Poe story I started to hear something tapping, tapping under my bedroom floor…like a squirl. I hear that sound for another 5 minutes. Mine you I have never heard that sound. And every once in a while, I’d hear that buzz. Oh, I got to experience that weird do-you-want-mash-potatoes-slam-a-dollop-on-your-plate feeling Tater was talking about.

Anyways, the first part of my dreams were average. I always have vivid dreams so I can’t tell the diference. No sex. However, the in the near morning dream I see myself in some Kung Fu match and I get stabbed in the wrist by two swords.

Then this morning I freak out because I had toilet bowl cleaner in the toilet. Forgot to scrub and flush. But like I freaked out like I was losing my mind. Who took a dump in my toilet…oh…just toilet bowl cleaner. Hahaha.”

sugarspice (February 2008):
“…Common? I have some pretty psycho dreams, but considering I hadn’t had any in a while it was interesting. Fighting a dual match didnt feel violent. I guess viloence to me is being under a state of anger and duress. It was more like a dance.

I guess there is just no one I want to bed right now, so I didn’t dream of sex. I didn’t have a sexual dream until I was 26. I think I may have dreamed that no more than 5 times in my life. Fighting on the other hand like once a month.”

sugarspice (February 2008):
“…I guess it takes alot for me to say, “hey now…quit being so violent.” …”

malleus (February 2008):
“ Observations on MEO-EST

I was intrigued about the variety of effects people have described and attributed to MEO-EST, without any clear consensus of what it does. So, for the last five days or so, I have been using MEO-EST by itself to determine its effects.

I began testing at 15mcg, with few noticeable results, with far more noticeable results at about 45mcg-60mcg, applied on neck and face. This is what I have noticed:

  1. All results I’ve noticed so far seem purely self-oriented.

  2. It has produced many strange and vivid dreams.

  3. If taken too close to bedtime, I cannot get any restful sleep–like being stuck in that in-between state where you’re not quite awake but are aware of things going on around you and your mind keeps thinking in tangents instead of shutting off.

  4. When combined with alcohol and/or drugs, MEO-EST adds to a sort of drunken or high feeling. But, while it amplifies certain characteristics of the condition (i.e., the buzz itself, lowering inhibitions, etc.), it always ends up being a sort of mellow feeling and not aggressive or sloppy.

  5. There were two occasions (both 45mcg or higher) where I felt sort of sedated or zombified. While this is not ideal in a work setting, it actually ended up being pretty good in a social setting. There were decreased inhibitions, I wandered around, chatted about b.s. (I felt as if I was on autopilot), found it easy to approach people I didn’t know, and just generally had a smooth time. I felt like one of those loveable neanderthals–everyone knows one, and they’re usually popular people, if not the most cerebral. MEO-EST in high doses can encourage that effect in me.

  6. I noticed a certain memory connection with MEO-EST. During my experiments, I brought up memories of things I didn’t know I had memories of. It was as if memories were being triggered from a different pool of memories than the one I usually use. For instance, say that ordinarily thinking of person X would make me likely to recall one of ten things I experienced with that person. Well, with MEO-EST, I noticed a number of times recalling other memories that I did not even know I had! This was very interesting.**

In conclusion, I have found that MEO-EST has definite mind-altering characteristics. It is not merely an amplifier of mental states (though that too), but affects memory, thought processes, awareness, and sleep. It amplified the positive sensations of being drunk or high without any noticed amplification of the negative sensations. I have not tried it with sex. My experimentation will continue at a later date.”

sugarspice (February 2008):
“Yup, me too. When I mixed MEO-EST with TAF and blanked out for a few seconds, till this day not remembering an event, see

Dude where’s my burger…the TAF, MEO-EST memory lapse

I knew it was the MEO-EST, not the TAF. When I mix it with my other mixed, it’s a little more than being sedated more like quasi-STONED. After I washed the MEO-EST not so stoned.

I think if they ever create a perfume called Love Stoned it would contain MEO-EST. It was like chit chatty, then…man…a heavy quiet moment. My friend who sat next to me, reacted the same way. Like one moment, yah, where’s the party at… next… quiet.

Yup I also suffered tossing and turning, I thought it was the TAF combo. Looks like it was just the MEO-EST.”

All postings on the forum on P100 are pasted in below. Both Tacitus and Carrie noticed positive self effects (mood and productivity) while Tisha noticed consistently negative self effects on this one (agitation and ‘crying over dumb things’). Perhaps a higher dosage may be better for this one - Carrie used 75 mcg for example…

tacitus (March 22, 2007):
“…I sprayed on 50 mu of P100 on to my forearms earlier, and am experienceing a good quality lightness of mood and clarity of thought at the moment too…”

tisha23 (April 18, 2007):
“ P100

I tried P100 today. Wow what a cranky bitch I became. I was in a great mood before I put it on. About a half hour after spraying I felt kinda edgy and snapish. People even commented on it. Now I only tried it once so it just may be me but I rarely get this moody even when I have a reason to be. I am nervous but I will try it again to see if it does it again.

Oh and I used the 12.5 mcg spray
One split to wrists and one to chest.

Tisha”

tisha23 (April 19, 2007):
“Tried it again today

Yep it makes me bitchy LOL Maybe this one will work better for the guys.

Tish”

Carrie (April 19, 2007):
“I’ve only tried [P100] for one day but I was in a fantastic mood, and *so *energetic and productive.

Maybe if you’re already a bitch, it has a paradoxical effect ??”

Carrie (April 19, 2007):
“I used 75 mcg.”

tisha23 (April 20, 2007):
“Ok I am using about 40 mcg. Do you think maybe I am not using enough ? I would think I would get no reaction if that was the case but since this is a purative who knows.

I would Love something that gave me more energy. Maybe I should up the dose some and see if that helps.

Tisha”

Most magnetic pheromones for women?
tisha23 (May 24, 2007):
“…P101and P100 make me easily agitated and then break into crying jags…”

tisha23 (June 23, 2007):
“…P100 made me cry over dumb stuff…”

P101 may well be the wildest smelling putative of them all…

Jasmin (March 8, 2007):
“ New armpit pheromone?

Hey guys,

One of the new putative pheromones (pheromone suspects) smells just like a male armpit note. Maybe have a live one here!

We’ll have this one up soon.”

Jasmin (April 4, 2007):
“…By the way, Muffin, this one has been put up. I think I was referring to P101 in this thread. By now after more people have tried it, I get feedback saying it smells like anything from feet to smoked salmon. ”

Jasmin (March 14, 2007):
“…WOW, you’re fast!

How do you feel P101is like TAA? The smell is totally different to me.

This is probably the strongest smelling potential pheromone (aside from Androstadienone) that I don’t mind. TAA on the other hand has a really great feeling but almost seems scentless.”

Jasmin (March 15, 2007):
“We only sent 2.5s because P101 had such a strong smell to it. I could smell 2.5 micrograms applied to a hand for hours afterward, easily poking it’s head through cologne… that stuff is strong!

Since you used so much, I guess we’ll up the next batch to 12.5mcg per spray?”

Jasmin (March 16, 2007):
“…Well, of course.. but I wanted the first people who got 'em (all the experts) to smell this thing, that’s why the first ones sent out are have no added fragrance.

The next batch of 12.5 P101s we just put together have Neroli added. We’ll see if that’s enough. This one might be tough to cover.”

Jasmin (March 16, 2007):
“…Don’t know about this one. It certainly smells human, but it’s structure didn’t come from a sweat analysis. Smells like armpits and groin area stuff to me.

If it proves itself as a useful pheromone, we can send it and a few sweat samples along to an analytical lab to find out where it comes from for sure. You might want to get a head start, and start ringing out your sock sweat into a little vial now. ”

examine (March 16, 2007):
“yes. and perhaps you guys should add some coconut scent or something to [P101]. it smells like cornmeal. shi*t is nasty. the smell didnt stick around for me, and i was hiding it with some quality essential oils that i have.

plus i smoke…

but ffs, hide the rugged scent.”

examine (March 16, 2007):
“just a question and not an assumption…but does 101 come from feet sweat?”

djronin47 (March 16, 2007):
“Along with the info below, this is my first ever post after years of lurking. So here goes…

Just tested P101 out today. Got it yesterday afternoon. Have it on as I type this up at work. Put on 2 sprays to back of my hands rubbed into pulse points on my neck and covered with 2 sprays each of Instant Shine and Ammo. I gave the bottle itself a sniff and does come across a bit intense but the Ammo and Instant Shine combo seems to have done the trick in covering its scent properly. As to the affects on the general populous here. Hard to tell for a 1st day test. I’ll be giving it a more thorough run-through this weekend at some of the bars and clubs I frequent. May be the Instant Shine and some of the friendly 'pheromones in Ammo, but everyone seems to be in a pretty good mood around me that I’ve had the opportunity to let sniff the air around me while wearing the P101.

Will post more about it in the coming days. Along with eventually my results from years of trial & error with the 'pheromones I’ve been using these years.”

SteveO (March 23, 2007):
P101 uncontrollable laughter!

I just got a massive order in. My first experiment was with P101.

I have it in 12.5 mcg (to go) and unscented (Jasmin loves SteveO and I can prove it)…

I can smell the P101 and to me it smelt like old wine that’s turned to strong vinegar. It wasn’t bad, but still strong. I didn’t get the feet sweat smell that’s been reported…”

SteveO (March 28, 2007):
“…I don’t get that bad smell at all from P101. I’m sticking with the wine that’s changed to vinegar.”

toilofday (March 27, 2007):
“35-40 mcg p101 (unfortunately I have a 2.5 mcg bottle )

The stuff does stink…”

PheroQuirk (April 4, 2007):
“…That’s exactly what I thought. Pit + crotch. Direct application [of P101] to hair and neck would seem to obvious. So far I can’t smell any stiink and no stinky-related bad reactions/negative comments,but I am getting ridiculous amounts of attention - more so even than first incarnation of the old MX 101 though with a less sexual vibe.”

dolly (March 25, 2007):
“…So, I decided that before I started working, I would play a little. I grabbed the first bottle sitting on my table…P101…ok, I’ll give it a shot. One big spray to each wrist…first impression…funky smell…not BAD, just strange. But, after about 5 min, couldn’t smell it at all…”

Gone with the Wind (March 25, 2007):
“ P101 report

2 drops unscented A314 mutant ( my usual base)
6 sprays p101

First, I like the smell. I’d much rather get this p101 in the unscented form than in a neroli base. I used some Trumper Eucris to blend with the odor. Altogether a kind of herby/fruity mixture that smelled strong but not easily recognisable as a cologne smell.

Out to the theater to see a play. I’d gone out last week with A314 and instant shine and had a couple of hits and long conversation during the intermission.

In contrast there were no obvious hits with the p101.

I did enjoy the smell. I wonder what the other folks in the theater thought. No one mentioned it. Generally pleasant interactions with people.”

Astralmind (March 25, 2007):
“Well just spray 2 shots of p101 (on hands, wrists and then applied to pulse points).

The smell… its like smoked salmon ! Definitly a strong “smoked fish” smell…”

Lor (March 28, 2007):
“i like LOVE this stuff!

its only been 20 minutes and although i wasnt in a bad mood to start, i get a great vibe from it.

its heady, but so far it could smell like paint thinner and id be okay with that.

i can already tell this is going to be one of those putatives that smell will be secondary to the experience.

i had to hit myself with it again, its not exceptionally strong.

i dont at all get the “spacy, looking at shiny things” that other people get,

but then again im using a low dose.
mine is only 2.5,i sprayed twice.

okay, this might sound a little weird, but i feel knowledgable.
like ask me anything,dude, im tapped in - tuned in - turned on .

this seems like a great rapport 'pheromone ”

Lor (March 28, 2007):
“…im very embarrassed to report that all i smell after a little bit is rubbing alcohol.

there a funk i notice here and there, but i refuse to believe its me.
when i go out with it on,im sticking with that story ”

Lor (April 4, 2007):
“you know, i expected it to smell more pungent/sharper, but although theres a funk its not a sharp one.

the effects are soooooo worth the smell, i LOVE this pheromone.
i even like it better than alot of them**.**

hope you find a way to work this one in ”

Quoting toilofday, **P101 seems to have some kind of ‘**meditative spaciness’ effect to it. Probably the most interesting aspect of this molecule comes from SteveO’s experiences of P101’s ability to help create a state where his mind was in vibrational contact with all the energies around him. Interestingly in Lor’s post, even with only 2.5 mcg of P101 on her, she felt ‘knowledgable’ and ‘tapped in - tuned in - turned on’…

SteveO (March 23, 2007):
“ P101 uncontrollable laughter!

I just got a massive order in. My first experiment was with P101

I have it in 12.5 mcg (to go) and unscented (Jasmin loves SteveO and I can prove it)

Anyway I sprayed on 4 shots on my wrist. I figured what the hell, why not blow some serious testing out the water. Hell it’s Friday night, my sprained ankle is able to be limped on, I’m going out to buy a bottle of some Rum and party with two lovely ladies.

So before when I was reading CuriousPUA’s thread … I was going to post, but decided that I prefer happiness over deep seeded anger that usually results in hypertension and heart disease. Any one who hates another without even taking the time to get to know a person is in my eyes flawed and not worthy of a response.

There’s too much hatred in this world!..
**
So I sprayed a whole bunch of P101 on and read the posts again and found myself in an uncontrollable laughter for a good 5 minutes. The kind that makes your sides hurt! Now my face is flushed red and hot. **I can smell the P101 and to me it smelt like old wine that’s turned to strong vinegar. It wasn’t bad, but still strong. I didn’t get the feet sweat smell that’s been reported.
**
I have a smile on my face and I feel spacey. Almost as if my head has been swimming around in the Ganja bong. MMMMM Ganja . I haven’t smoked in a LONG time.

Anyway now that I’m writing my post seems more focused and the words are flowing, but at the same time I find my mind drifting. Focused but drifting, almost like an oxymoron. This P101 needs to be tested more today.

I’m spraying again.**”

SteveO (March 23, 2007):
“Fleeting initial results, but all the same a powerfully pheromone that if used properly can be channeled into a mind expanding vibrational concept of world domination.

OK let me explain: I want you to think Hawkins, Einstein, Nash and maybe even my favorite Zeno. To have a mind that transcends the human plain into an elemental paradigm where the structure of mass is broken down into its most basic levels of atoms, neurons, energy possibly even light. The controls of man are eliminated and the mind is able to wander in infinite directions without losing focus of each direction. The ability to think beyond what is the here and now, to pick up subtle nuances while maintaining composure all the while believing you are somehow in tune with the universal Karmic energy force.

A masterful blend of thoughts and observations mixed with laughter! Perhaps the laughter arises from knowing that you are one with the universal thought and merely laughing at your own feeble existence as an individual, tiny, but so much an integral part of the cog that turns.

The scent dissipates quickly and at first you giggle, but soon you find your mind in vibrational contact with all the energies around you. Able to notice things you wouldn’t have noticed before, or cared not to notice. I collect myself now and realize the extent and power of this one, that binds me to a material plain, not so much as body, but a material spiritual plain. I feel connected with all the energy around me, like electrical charges running up my spine to inter-connect with my brains synopses making me one with the energy, but all the same, separate from energy.

At first I was high with laughter, but that laughter was fleeting and replaced by knowledge of all that are charged particles. I’m up to 7 sprays and yet I still feel as if my frontal lobe is spiritually charged with energy which transcends the right and left cerebral cortex and allows me to think and feel with energy rather than using reason.

I need to go chill ”

SteveO (March 24, 2007):
“…So if you read my initial report on P101 you know I was feeling pretty spacey, but in context I was also feeling a universal power…”

SteveO (March 25, 2007):
“That’s very interesting to hear. I wonder if the molecule is similar to P101

I just got back from Wally World (Wal Mart) myself a few minutes ago. They are in the middle of a massive reorganization project and the store is different every day. Just when you get used to the damn place they change everything around.
**
So anyway wearing 3 shots of P101 I seemed to know exactly where everything was. I needed a ream of paper and walked directly to the office supply section.**

Very interesting”

SteveO (March 25, 2007):
“Hey Now,

Well I posted a bit about my experience at the local Wal Mart on Toil’s thread P102

My first experience with P101 was full of laughter and yet all the same it was very in-tuned to the Karmic energy world that surrounds us. My first impression of the molecule was it wained rather quickly and you needed massive doses to achieve the desired results of oneness. Tonight I doubt this actually may be true at all.

I only sprayed myself 3 times with P101 and immediately I thought I would need more. I decided hey 3 is enough SteveO, just chill with three. It is almost like an addictive molecule, you want more, more, more, but really according to tonights results its not needed.

When I got to Wally World I wasn’t spacey and laughy like I was the previous time. It felt as if everything was OK and the jones for more soon itself dissipated. I was definitely still connected to everything in the store. I noticed every glance I received and at one point it felt as if I could hear people looking at me. I can’t really explain this, but it was definitely weird.

Almost as if it was an old kung fu movie where whenever they even moved slightly there was a swoosh of wind. That’s how it was for me, but only when people were looking at me. I felt very much empowered but so in control. Like when I walked people parted not out of respect mind you, but more like because some how in their mind they heard me say excuse me I need to get by.

Heres where it get even stranger. They completely gutted the Wally World and are redoing everything in the store. Moved everything just after you get used to where it was. Last week I left in frustration because I couldn’t find a blasted thing I needed. Today though was different. Today I needed a ream of paper and some new ear buds for my Zune.

I walked right to the ear buds first and then right to the office supply section without even question of where it was. I actually had to navigate through 5 sections to get to the office supply but I knew exactly where I was going.
**
Is anyone experiencing anything like this?
”

SteveO (March 28, 2007):
“Yeah I totally agree as I posted this same conclusion a few posts up. It seems as if you want to apply more [with P101 on] (think crack head) but you really don’t need to…”

toilofday (March 27, 2007):
“35-40 mcg p101 (unfortunately I have a 2.5 mcg bottle )

The stuff does stink

Five minutes in I was a little disappointed. I was expecting a little stronger hit. I did my best to have no expectations of what was to come.

I was finishing getting ready to go to walmart and find materials to build a custom pheromone holding case. (if it works, i’ll post some pics.)
**
I get into my car and the enchanting sounds of DJ spooky’s more mellow tracks fill my ears on this clear cool spring night. It was truely a mood to experience. It’s that feeling you get when you sit out and look at the stars as fireflies buzz about.

I expected this feeling to hold, but I found it shifting with the music which is not uncommon for me, but definitely pheromone altered.**

**I get to walmart and walk around. I notice my concentration obliterated and my mind wondering.

It was like very subtle weed, but without the stupidity and euphoria.

I liked it, but it is very spacey for me.**

Oh… I kept looking at shiny things. I caught myself staring at the shiny carbide coated saw blade, and later a set of shiny red darts with silver reflective fins. My mind was definitely wondering at those times.

I also noticed a small time shift. Things slowed down a bit.”

toilofday (March 28, 2007)
“…From what I’ve seen so far, P101 has a meditative spaciness…”

Lor (March 28, 2007):
“i like LOVE this stuff!

its only been 20 minutes and although i wasnt in a bad mood to start, i get a great vibe from it.

its heady, but so far it could smell like paint thinner and id be okay with that.
i can already tell this is going to be one of those putatives that smell will be secondary to the experience.

i had to hit myself with it again, its not exceptionally strong.

i dont at all get the “spacy, looking at shiny things” that other people get,

but then again im using a low dose.
mine is only 2.5,i sprayed twice.

okay, this might sound a little weird, but i feel knowledgable.
like ask me anything,dude, im tapped in - tuned in - turned on .

this seems like a great rapport 'pheromone ”

More on the mind altering properties of P101 is pasted in below. P101, like P79, TAF, P93, and A314, may be useful in its own trippy way to help people ‘get things done’…

dolly (March 25, 2007):
“ P101

Ok, ladies…let’s liven up the ladies forum here…tired of talking about the same old things!! ALTHOUGH, I DO LOOOOOVE HEARING THE HIT REPORTS!!!

So, I got in my order of replenishing stock yesterday (I was almost out of all of my experimones… ), and I got a whole bunch of putatives to play with.

This morning, I woke up feeling kind of crappy…got a sinus issue going on with all of the pollen here, and I only got about 2 hrs of sleep last night. But, it IS tax season, and I have a lot of tax returns to do for another CPA. So, I knew I would be having a full day today…no time to rest. But, I just couldn’t seem to break the funky mood…

So, I decided that before I started working, I would play a little. I grabbed the first bottle sitting on my table…P101…ok, I’ll give it a shot. One big spray to each wrist…first impression…funky smell…not BAD, just strange. But, after about 5 min, couldn’t smell it at all.

Sat here, whiffing it occassionally, and after a few minutes, much to my dismay, my mood starting lifting a little. I started working, cranked out 2 returns in less than an hour, and noticed that I was HUMMING while I was doing it. Feeling a little upbeat…

Anybody else played with 101? What are you getting?”

dolly (March 29, 2007):
“So, today, I am pairing P101 with TAF. Two sprays P101 to the wrists, with a sweep of TAF up each inner arm, from the wrist to the crook of my elbow (probably about 4-6 sprays of 5 mcg strength). The neroli in the TAF covered the P101 quite well.

Sitting here sniffing it, and feeling it start to kick in…I feel a fun, productive day coming on…feeling motivated to work, and happy about it… …ready and raring to go! Will post later to let you know how it goes!”

Astralmind (March 25, 2007):
“Well just spray 2 shots of p101 on hands, wrists and then applied to pulse points).

The smell… its like smoked salmon ! Definitly a strong “smoked fish” smell. I probably wont have any social interactions tonight but I find it interesting to test pheros alone in my living room at first. Helps me focus on personal observations before I get into the real fun.

I do not feel any spacy feeling yet (maybe 25 ,mcg isnt enough) but I feel somekind of an internal warmth. I felt tired before and now altough I still feel physically worn out, I feel my mind has an easier time focusing… and yet I feel somewhat detached.

A slightly relaxing feeling and somekind of a trippy focus. As if I was watching myself typing this right now instead of really doing it.

Weird

Edit : Bleh .. added an extra spray, straight to my face. A weird feeling for sure. Took off my glasses to apply the spray and had a hard time putting them back on. Clumsy yet focussed.”

nibbla (April 27, 2007):
“ Quick P101 report

Got home after a good day’s work, happy but tired. I usually find that my energy bubble deflates shortly after I get home whilst i settle into a different mindset and I would normally ‘come down’ just freewheeling, surfing the net etc.

Today shortly after arriving back home I hit myself with 3 sprays of 12.5mcg p101. Within minutes the urge to organise and tidy took me over. I completely went through my study and about 3/4 of the way through this mass clear out, decided that I needed an extra piece of furniture to properly store my paperwork and other stuff.

I walked into town (15 mins away) to have a look around a particular shop and liked the look of a few pieces. Went back home, got my car, drove back to the shop and bought a piece I particularly liked and returned home with it to continue my re-organisation - now including this new piece of furniture. As I drove I was aware that I was mission-focussed and that nothing was going to get in my way - not aggressively but in a positive ‘there’s not a problem I can’t solve’ way.

I didn’t stop until my wife reminded me that I hadn’t eaten and even then I had to make sure it was all just so. I was like a robot, it was as though I was in a trance and time just flew by.

I had on the remmants of my day mix; A314, Turn Up The Heat, p79 and IS but I had a similar experience a couple of weeks ago with just 3 sprays of p101, so I’m confident I can attribute today’s experience to this putative.”

P101 seems to have some kind of sensory-enhancing ‘visual effect’. Interestingly this molecule has been compared to another ‘bright’ molecule, TAA (the main pheromone in Instant Shine), by a few posters. P101 also seems to grab some attention, has a moodlift to it and has decent friendly qualities as well. Perhaps it has a more meditative/mellowing flavour to it than TAA though…

Flipcat (May 1, 2007):
“…P101 - makes everything pertty and colorful. Not sure if it does anything to others…”

Scottie2Hottie (June 6, 2007):
“Couldn’t say for sure how P101 effects those around me other than to assume that they have the same or similar experience as I have when wearing it. It seems to create a state of hightened visual awareness and the anticipation that something big is about to happen…i.e., increased visual vigilance. For those of you who have experienced a major none OD, you may recall a sense of impending attack (fight or flight)…it’s like that w/out the edginess or paranoia. I just have this sense that something big is about to happen, one of great anticipation and my visual accuity is hightened…I’m constantly scanning my surroundings looking for a source…like I don’t want to miss it when it happens. This seems especially true if I use a cops mix like mx134. It seems to have a somewhat TAF-like effect in enhancing the awareness of a mix…it’s not that uncommon to get a DIHL type of reaction from others. At least that’s been my experience.”

examine (March 14, 2007):
“…p101 is like taa…”

examine (March 14, 2007):
“…P101 does smell different to TAA. i meant the vibe is similar to that of TAA. it sorta has a happy vibe, shiny vibe–but its not too giggly like alpha Androstenol. i noticed at the bar, the waitress whom is an alpha female, never actually got into a conversation with me. just “hey you, whats up” this time..she gave me a drink, then we chatted, then, i asked if she had a custom drink..she made it…i went back to playing pool. then she came over to ask me about the drink. i said something like “whos at the bar?” she replied, “ah its dead and im bored”

i also asked her if she wanted to play, which she agreed, but then she had customers.

btw. i wore P84 2-3 hours prior. i noticed P84 stuck around for awhile.

the spray (101) does not command respect, and it creates a very very friendly vibe to others. i can see how 101 would be great for lonewolves, however, authority figures (boss) would see you as weak. i got picked on by my boss. and i mean she really drilled me. im usually very sharp tongue and defensive, but i just kept silent…which felt a bit emotional. that is very unlike me.”

examine (March 15, 2007):
“its funny because i was talking to a blonde that supposedly never talks (she has very very clear crystal green eyes that are so sharp its scary like vampire style, she also has a ‘cold’ nordic face yet soft and pretty) but with P101 we were chatting it up, going on and on about pool, and semi-pros we knew in the area…
101 comes off quick. and its been about 90F and very humid here in the valley.”

examine (March 15, 2007):
“…lets just say half my P101 bottle is gone. (over todays course starting morning)

its only 2.5 mcg/spray. not much i can work with there. and i live in a very hot environment.”

toilofday (March 27, 2007):
“35-40 mcg p101 (unfortunately I have a 2.5 mcg bottle )…
Oh… I kept looking at shiny things. I caught myself staring at the shiny carbide coated saw blade, and later a set of shiny red darts with silver reflective fins. My mind was definitely wondering at those times…”

SteveO (March 27, 2007):
“I too noticed myself looking at shiny things. When I was in Bucky Stars I noticed a women wearing silver earrings, bracelets and a gold necklace. I thought I was more tuned into her lack of fashion sense, but maybe it was just the shininess.

Astral any feedback from the smoked salmon?”

PheroQuirk (April 4, 2007):
“…That’s exactly what I thought. Pit + crotch. Direct application of P101 to hair and neck would seem to obvious. So far I can’t smell any stiink and no stinky-related bad reactions/negative comments, but I am getting ridiculous amounts of attention - more so even than first incarnation of the old MX 101 though with a less sexual vibe.”

PheroQuirk (April 4, 2007):
“…so this isn’t a pure report as I applied over my base mix (but I do have a good sense of usual reactions with the base). P101 25mcg spray spread between pits and crotch. drew a tonne of attention, friendlier and less sexual than the old MX101 but still, hard to miss. agree with examine about the fun, friendly vibe. doesn’t seem to have the obliviousness that high doses of TAAcan create.

more to follow.”

PheroQuirk (April 4, 2007):
“…my sense is P101 works much better with TAC than TAA does.”

Lor (March 28, 2007):
“i like LOVE this stuff!

its only been 20 minutes and although i wasnt in a bad mood to start, i get a great vibe from it.

its heady, but so far it could smell like paint thinner and id be okay with that.
i can already tell this is going to be one of those putatives that smell will be secondary to the experience.

i had to hit myself with it again, its not exceptionally strong.

i dont at all get the “spacy, looking at shiny things” that other people get,

but then again im using a low dose.
mine is only 2.5,i sprayed twice.

okay, this might sound a little weird, but i feel knowledgable.
like ask me anything,dude, im tapped in - tuned in - turned on .

this seems like a great rapport 'pheromone ”

**
Lor (April 4, 2007):
“you know, i expected it to smell more pungent/sharper, but although theres a funk its not a sharp one.**

the effects are soooooo worth the smell, i LOVE this pheromone.
i even like it better than alot of them.

hope you find a way to work this one in ”

Lor (March 28, 2007):
“…well, i have only been using [P101] for over an hour, and i have to agree with Dolly.

on application, its imediatly uplifting.

as time goes by, you acclimate.

not so much bang left, but the upliftment is still clearly there.
the cats like it.
my 5 yr old seems either unnaffected, or he is so usually fun and happy anyway that i cant notice it.

i think its easy to acclimate to is all.
thats a real good quality,

i predict we are going to see this one in some serious mixes later on in the year, after more people give it the thumbs-up.

i see it paired beautifully with TAHor TAL,

with Alpha Androstenol and TAK possibly in a relax-mix.”

Lor (March 31, 2007):
“…i have to wear a heavy mix today, im in experiment mode and want to create a “loving” atmosphere.

i was thinking P101, TAH TAA, alphanol, betanol for a family-fun vibe.

what do you think?”

Lor (April 7, 2007):
“…you would LOVE P74!
and P101 , ask dolly!
those are fun chatty i love the world players there
…”

Lor (April 10, 2007):
“P101 is uplifting, kinda puts me in a good mood. mellowing i think. not tired-
but not the caffeinated giggle i get from other stuff.
i feel spacy but not like Alpha Androstenol.
like sh!t dont matter…

not a classy way to put it, but it describes it the way i feel it ”

Potential negatives associated with P101 that have been mentioned on the forum (aside from the funky smell)…

dolly (March 28, 2007):
“…I noticed it pretty quick…I compare it to a cross between TAA and TAF…but, I also seemed to be “coming down” off of P101 after a couple of hours…almost like coming down off of a caffiene buzz…”

dolly (April 10, 2007):
“…When I tried P101, the same thing happened…it was like coming down fast off of a strong caffeine buzz…”

Lor (April 10, 2007):
“i dont think i wore enough MX134 to really be authoritive;
i wore 2 sprays to my arms and P101,2 sprays.

started out well enough, everyone cooperative.

after 5 hours i got the blues.

took a major dive.

i think buffers are necessary here, but no overt responses to P101.
may need to be stronger to get it.

next time i will try 4 sprays P101”

Lor (April 12, 2007):
“…P101 had me blue after with nothing going on, but i have tried it a few times and felt let down towards the end.fairly consistant…”

https://pheromonetalk.com/t/most-magnetic-pheromones-for-women/3797/10\\ (Most magnetic pheromones for women?)
tisha23 (May 24, 2007):
“…P101 and P100 make me easily agitated and then break into crying jags…”

tisha23 (April 11, 2007):
“…Today I tried P101 and I didnt like it. 3 spray wrists and neck.
I didnt get that happy feeling at all. First few hours I noticed men being a little odd. They would delibratly try to piss me off or antagonize me. Half way into the day I started to feel a little sad. Not crying sad just sort of blue. I gave myself a few blasts of MX135 and felt better but not as good as I feel when I use MX135 alone.

Tisha”

https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-are-p101-effects-at-workplace/3988\\ (What are P101 effects at workplace ?)
tisha23 (June 6, 2007):
“I think this one is more geared toward men. I have tried P101 twice and both times it made me easily frustrated and want to cry. This is not like me at all LOL so my sons didnt know what the heck to do when I started bawling over a little glitch in my computer. I may be none sensitive or something. I am not sure if there is none in this but I do notice I have to be careful none in products. I used 2 sprays I will try 1 next time.

I will test it some more before I give my final results on it but I am not expecting to get different results.

Tisha”

P79 + P90

seem to be my favs

Yes would love to hear more on P90 Examine or anyone else for that matter. Especially a full head-to-head comparison/contrast of Beta-Androstenol vs P90.

Below we have the last trickle of info on P101 though something tells me that tacitus was pulling our legs…

tacitus (November 19, 2006):
“…I tested 50 mu of P101 a new supersecret putative only the Illuminati may posess, so great are its powers on the subway… the car spontaneously burst into a chorus of OOOOOk-LA-HOMA!! (from the musical).. this was rush hour, you see… performed a well choreographed dance number with complex steps, furiously ate a basket of bananas, then sang the national anthem… quite inspiring… we all got off at Brooklyn Bridge and went our seperate ways, although about a half dozen supermodel type breathtakingly beautiful babes did fling their panties at me… that P101 is really something man… ”

nbully79(March 31, 2008):
“P94 and P101
Yesterday I was thinking about my results with P94 and P101 and how they really intensified the heaviness of MX102. So before I forget, I should note that they have a terrible smell and might have led to increased distance in my few trials.”

Below we have the posts on P102 from the forum – great posting from toilofday. Note the interesting discussion between PheroQuirk and Asiandude – the following links may be useful in understanding their discussion: Thalamus - Wikipedia Thalamus - Wikipedia Reticular formation - Wikipedia Proprioception - Wikipedia

toilofday (March 25, 2007):
“ First look at P102: I can hear everything!!

P102 to go bottle @ 5mcg per spray unscented

I applied 4 sprays to a paper towel and sniffed it for a bit. I found the smell to be rather pleasant as did my father. My dog was near by so I leaned down and held th paper towel out for him to smell. One whiff and he jumped back 2 feet. 30 seconds later he sneased and started rubbing his nose on the ground. lol

Still sniffing the paper, I feel calmed, a little up beat and slower in my actions. I noticed a pressure obove my eyes. I assume it was sinus related, but it seems to be in my left frontal lobe (I think that’s right). It’s a pressure in the same location I get migrain pain from. I have ocular stereoscopia. A vien constricts reducing blood flow to my eye and I lose some of my vision. It then expands and I have a migraine in that exact spot.

I throw out the towel and procede to get coffee. On my way I spray 3 sprays on my wrists and spread it to my neck. The pressure came back instantly and I felt like I just took a shot of esspresso. (still calm and slow in movement though)

My vision become more instense as if I was engrossed in a play.

I became much more aware of my surroundings and noticed more details in the environment.

I got coffee and the coffee girls seemed to be just as attentive as I was once I showed up.

I head out to walmart to find a tool. I walk around a look at a few thing. Get to the tools and the desired socket was not carried. This entire time i’m processing more environmental information than usual.

I wander throught the sporting goods and electronics and make it back out to the isle. I start to notice sounds much more at this point (+30-45 minutes after aplication). It’s not entirely pleasant either. Every sound i’m hearing is sharper. I became a little overwelmed and headed for the door. I get to the parking lot and I CAN HEAR EVERYTHING. I’m used to this because of a few pshycadelics (research chemicals) I experimented with at Pudue. (when you can hear footsteps 2 blocks away and hear people talking in there houses from the sidewalk outside you tend to get used to it, but those storries are for another time)

Anyway, I could hear everything. There was the walmart guy behind me walking past with his keys jingling. The lady pushing her kids in a cart, the 3 cars playing music in different locations through the parkinglot, the train going by, the conversation of the people by there car, ect.

The one thing shocked me a bit was that the music I could hear registered more as noise than music. Sounds were much more sharp, crips, clear, and edgy.

It seems to be an environmental processing enhancer.

If these effects continue down this path and it wasn’t just the shock of exposure to a new pheromone I think this could be benificial to a crime scene investigator, or a detective/Private eye.

I want to try this one at smaller doses. It seems to be very potent.”

toilofday (March 25, 2007):
“…P102 is a little less focused than that. It was very much a take your time and soak it all in kind of deal.

What are they doing to your walmart I always thought their tile removing machines were pretty cool. I wanted to drive one. Lol”

toilofday (March 28, 2007):
“…Anyway, I took p102 out for another test drive. I started with the same dose as before 15mcg.

Once again I noticed the pressure but it was less this time as I was more used to it’s effects.

I began to feel disconnected in a small way. I was in a trance of sorts. It’s hard to explain.

I went out on a drive to just observe the world if you will and listened to music. The audio was a little clearer but I had yet to notice profound auditor shifts as i had prior. I was a little concerned that I had mislead everybody with a false reading of the pheromone. Looking back there were a few instances I could say were auditory shifts. I shut my stereo off to listen to everything around me and could pick out individual sounds and what they were coming from more readily.

I sprayed on 2 more sprays straight to the face. I gaged because of the smell. It’s very sour and funky. I continued about my way and ended up at a RR crossing watching a train. I just stared off in one direction a the train and listened to all the sounds coming from it. At this point I still feel that I was reaching out for auditory awareness.

I went to get coffee after that. I walk in and order. The coffee girl who took my order and was making my coffee became less cheerful and seemed like she was in a trance as well.

Shortly after this it hit me. I don’t know what it is with this molecule. It seems to take forever to get the full effects. 30-45 minutes.

I was driving about again with my stereo off listening to all the sounds around me. I could process them all individually at the same time.

I began to realize that my reliance on my sense of sight had been decreased. I wasn’t to happy about this because I was driving, but it wasn’t a problem. I also noticed this in a small extent the first test run, but mistook it for a sensory overload.

This molecule at 15-25mcg seems to reduce visual perception and increase auditory. It not actually reduce visual directly. It me be that increasing ones auditory perception requires a decrease in visual perception.

On a final note, when I arrived home the crickets were LOUD! They were as loud as a TV at normal volume.
…From what I’ve seen so far, P101 has a meditative spaciness. P102 has more of a animalistic sensory increase. I was actually frightened by a street clock downtown that started to played a song when I was stopped at the light right beside it.”

Asiandude (March 29, 2007):
“I believe that the P102 is affecting the Thalamus of the brain as u can hear all the sounds in your presence. Normally the Thalamus filters out unnecessary sound and focuses in on the important sounds. If the P102 has somehow disabled the Thalamus to a certain degree then all the sounds should become much more clear and all sounds would be heard instead of what is important.”

PheroQuirk (April 4, 2007):
“…Interesting… it sounded like it was a visual-aural tilt rather than relating to closure of the reticular activating system though. Have you tried TAF? That is very much an RAS modifier - all 5 senses (and tbh it screws with the sixth - proprioception - too). Whereas P102 sounded a bit different. I shall try in a few days and see for myself…”

PheroQuirk (April 5, 2007):
“ P102 - happy, shiny

25mcg 102 over a Shine/Instant Female Magic/Ammo base.

Happy, upbeat. Not too much TAA obliviousness. Trancing a little bit when dancing, but that happens often enough anyway, so don’t know if that was unusual.

No sense of visual-auditory shift.

Smooth and mellow socially.

Nice drawing of attention, but not in a sharp or edgy way…”

Asiandude (April 5, 2007):
“There is no way that it would affect the proprioreceptors as they are strech and pressure receptors found in ligaments, tendons and joints. If those are affected, it would be very difficult to coordinate movement. Personally, i have never heard of someone who was affected by pheromones in such a way that it affected their physiological movement.”

PheroQuirk (April 24, 2007):
“…Well, my feeling was that P102 possibly affected the sense of proprioception, not necessarily receptors themselves. And it did make me a little clumsy. I’d suggest not definitively ruling in or out any possible effect with test or putative pheromones until we have lots more experience as it risks shutting the gate to learning surprising things. Why not order TAF and see what you notice yourself? I look forward to your report ”

P103 seems to be another friendly/uplifting/social pheromone from forum member posts. It seems to have other aspects to it like acting as a focuser and an intensifier at times but may be another putative (like P74 and P101 for example) that can lead to energy crashes…

tacitus (March 20, 2007):
“ P103 is Phun ! Whee ! Mindless Happiness!

and you’ll hear no complaints from me… 25 mu of P103… and bear in mind I presently feel like a poorly enbalmed corpse no thanks to a late blooming influenza… came in today thinking, damn shite feel like doom and corrupt filth, opened my toybox from androtix, and squirted a shot of P103 on my wrist… no other thing… and yep, still feel like damn shite, but uplifted joyous damn shite… fairly sexless, no primal go go go in the lower chakrae, nor any pit bull gouch… well, the flu could be taking me down two or three notches on this count so don’t over-conclude… however, I’m grounded, maybe a tad giddy… feel like quickie enlightenment… Maharishi inna Bottle…”

Gone with the Wind (April 26, 2007):
“ P103

I tested out p103 today.

100 mcg p103
2 drops A314 mutant
cover scent - Douro from Penhaligons (currently re-renamed Lords)

I debated about using the A314 but I use it so much it has pretty much become a baseline condition for much of my pheromone usage, an omitting it would probably make it harder rather than easier to identify unique characteristics of what I’m testing.

When I first sprayed on the p103 it had a strong but enjoyable scent. After a few minutes I couldn’t smell it at all though. Whether this is because the scent disappeared or because my nose adapted to it I do not know. My wife is out of the area working today so I couldn’t ask her.

I did feel inspired to take care of a couple of little tasks I’d been putting off just after I applied the p103.

Then I stopped by a local restaurant for lunch. It was fairly empty. There were two waitresses working the room, a hefty gal around 50 (h50), and a slender one around 35 (s35). s35 is always actively hustling from table to table, cleaning things, taking orders, etc. even if there aren’t many people present. The table I chose to sit at was on h50’s side of the room. She took my order. When she came back she said “Hope you enjoy your breakfast!” It was 11:45 am, which is usually considered lunchtime, so I thought that a bit odd. I did order an omlette though. Maybe anytime you eat an omlette it’s breakfast.

s35 came over to my side of the room to ask where my wife was. I told her my wife was working today and not available for lunch. Then she left back to her side.

6 elderly ladies came in and sat at the table next to me, although there were a number of other open tables in the room. They enjoyed an animated conversation among themselves while I was there.

When I got up to pay s35 came over to the counter to ring up the bill. She asked me how I was liking my new place. I mentioned that I’d been living in my place for a number of years. She said she thought I just moved in on X street, and I said no, I live on Y street. Then she started telling me some stories about her and her place. I had my hand on the counter and she put her hand on top of mine. We talked for a couple more minutes at the counter (while her tables waited) and when I left she had a big smile on her face.

Then I left for the grocery store and bought a couple of lottery tickets. The clerk said “I know you were coming so I did the ironing.” I looked at here in a puzzled way, and then she explained as she gave me my change in crisp bills, “I ironed the bills for you.”

Initial impressions -

fairly strong social effect. - Elderly ladys talking, s35s conversation, grocery clerk’s joke

possibly confusing, strange - h50s mention of breakfast at lunchtime, clerk joking about ironing bills

possible “get it done” effect - my taking care of chores after application.

I’ll post more here as I get more of a feel for this putative. Others are also welcome to post their impressions of p103 here too.”

Sunny (May 3, 2007):
“Great report!

I did my initial tests of P103 intentionally before reading anyting on the forum about it.
Even though I have no special hit stories to report, I concluded that it is a pretty strong social-friendly-happy molecule. And apparently it can be traced back to the wearer very well (one of the drawbacks of Spaceland is that I everybody becomes happy without tracing it to me).

100 mcg - that’s 8 sprays of the tester… that really is a lot.

It seems that Androtics has found a really useful new putative and one we understand it better it’s going to be really interesting to use it in mixes.

Keep the reports coming

Sunny”

alseides (April 27, 2007):
“ Thoughts on P103

I received P103 with my most recent order, as a freebie (thanks!) and decided to try it out today. This is my first time trying something out and having no idea what it was supposed to do beforehand, so I’m blind with this one.

I was contemplating going out, but since my mood is influenced by weather and it’s raining terribly around here, I was thinking about staying home. I have P103 in 12.5 mcg, so I spritzed twice to the neck and once to the top of the head. But I was putting on a hat due to said rain, so I sprayed another time to the chest. A few minutes later, I suddenly felt like going out, and was singing to myself and such.

While out, I realized I was my typical giggly self, but I was saying and doing things without really thinking about them first, saying every single thing that came to mind (which I don’t usually do).

But anyway, all I can understand from P103 is that it picked me up, made me want to do things, and completely deleted any inhibitions I had for a little while. At the moment, I’m incredibly tired, and I have no idea why. Hmm…”

alseides (April 28, 2007):
“ First thoughts on P103

Since the other thread was being “viewed by a moderator” and did not show up overnight, I figured I’d give it another go.

When I first thought of trying out P103 I was not feeling like going out, despite the fact that a friend wanted to go shopping (I’m usually ALWAYS up for shopping…). I wanted to stay home because I’m one of those critters whose mood is affected by the weather, and it was raining and very gloomy outside. I sprayed P103 three times to my neck and once to the top of my head, though I was going to put on a hat shortly afterward, and within minutes I was running around the house getting ready to leave and singing to myself all the while.

While actually out, I was saying everything that came to my mind. In public, I usually censor myself (not EVERYTHING that I think is, ahem, appropriate to belt out in a shopping mall), but with P103 I simply didn’t care enough to think before I spoke, which may be both a good and a bad thing. It really helped me let go of any inhibitions and have a lot of fun with whatever I was doing at the time.

As for the affect on others, I’m not entirely sure my friend acted any different, but I may wear P103 again. While on this putative, the friend and I devised a quirky plan to take a few buddies, get dolled up and go out to the restaurant where my punk works and spend the evening there, so I think it’ll be a perfect opportunity to test it out again.

I am so tempted to wear any of the other mixes I just got (Alphanol, Betanol, P79…), but I’ll see if I can control myself. ”

alseides (April 29, 2007):
“I think this is one of those mixes that you sort of “crash” on. I wore it yesterday with TAA and TAH, but before I applied the latter two I was coming off my high and getting really tired. Strange.”

alseides (April 29, 2007):
“I definitely have to try this a few more times - I’m not letting my ToGo go to waste with only two test runs. The high is euphoric and motivating but after an hour or two I end up coming down like I’ve had a ton of energy drinks and I feel like all I want to do is sleep.

Wonder if there’s a mix that wakes people up. xD”

alseides (April 29, 2007):
“…I’ve been wearing P103 on my neck - haven’t tried it in my hair yet, at least not part of my hair that’s not covered by a hat!

The restaurant was where I ‘crashed’, actually. We got in and sat at our booth, and everything was relatively normal. I had some residual TAA and TAH from earlier in the day though, so that might have some affect on what happened. The employees at that restaurant know me fairly well because I’m always there visiting and getting a milkshake, but one new guy (I assume he was new, at least) kept walking by our table, or staring at our table from afar.

When two of my companions left, the guy came over and asked if he could take our dishes. After taking the dishes, I noticed he was standing across the room staring at our table still, so I smiled before returning to the conversation at hand, and next thing I knew the guy was at our table again, asking if he could get us anything or clear our drinks.

I found out from my punk later that night that the guy ran into the back of the restaurant and kept saying “Guys, there’s this girl at table 11, and she’s so hot!” I don’t know what his reaction was to finding I was his coworker’s girlfriend, but the guy definitely kept making excuses to come back to the table.

That also might have something to do with the fact that I wear wearing a rather low-cut dress though. Ahem. ”

alseides (May 1, 2007):
“…I’m tempted to say… P103 (also to go) - happy, sunshiny loveliness!”

alseides (May 1, 2007):
“Wahhh! I wore about four sprays of P103 out again today, and upon sitting down at the same restaurant as mentioned before, I got a free soda from a lady. No revealing clothes or anything this time. In fact, I think I was looking rather icky. Just rolled out of bed and sick. I was drinking my Sprite and as I went to pay for it the waitress said “Don’t worry about it”. She did, however, charge my accomplice for his! Hmm… I think I officially adore P103…

I smell a full-size bottle purchase comin’ on.”

alseides (May 3, 2007):
“I have P103 in 12.5mcg, and I’ve been spraying my neck and hair. Usually three or four sprays, but I tend to add another couple for good measure as the day goes on, so I’ve been wearing between 50 and 75mcg the past few times I’ve worn it out. ”

alseides (May 19, 2007):
“I prefer this to instant shinein terms of self-effects.
P103 is a competitor for Shine when it comes to others, for me. But I have yet to fully understand P103 - sometimes it’s amazing happy-fun-time vibes and others it’s got a sexual undertone. Hmm.”

alseides (May 22, 2007):
“Ahh, P103! Every single time I’ve worn it out to dinner, I’ve gotten free meals, but there have been nights that I’ve only received compliments through other people (i.e. “Man, she’s hot” said to my boyfriend :stuck_out_tongue:) just as there have been nights that servers kept coming back to my table for no real reason at all.

I adore P103. I had been concentrating on the happy, uppity effects of it, but now that you mention it Jas, it is pretty magnetic indeed.”

alseides (June 9, 2007):
“…I’m not a regular at every restaurant I go to, Flip.

I’m more of a regular now, because I visit whenever I can, but that was before I was sure I was welcome there (I had a tiff with a manager and didn’t want to be responsible for my boyfriend getting in any trouble). I actually haven’t gotten anything free since I wore that… it’s a pity. If I’m lucky I’ll swing a discount. Since I ran out of P103 I seem to have run out of free meals!

Gah, I still haven’t ordered a full-sized bottle. Blasphemy”

alseides (June 17, 2007):
“ Hooray! Giggly P103 time.

Yeah, I crash on it too. But the more I wore it (before my bottle ran out!) I noticed it wasn’t as severe, so maybe one just needs to get acclimated to it.”

alseides (June 28, 2007)
“P103 really is strange. I love the high moments, but the lows, not so much… everything is very, very intense.”