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Heya, Im having a spot of trouble. Well I have used the Pheros for two days now and have actually seen a decrease in my “game”. I bought IS, a314, cttm2, and turn up the heat. Now I use one drop of turn up the heat on my forearm. 2 sprays of IS x2 on my neck and shirt and 2 sprays of cttm2 on my arms. And from this combination I have not noticed any thing different. I still run sets like I have been, getting the same results. Which were ok to begin with because Im me, but worse because I spent money and expect bigger results. I did get a models number and two stripper’s numbers + went home with a girl all at the same event but that’s normal stuff. And I really did not see an improvement in any encounter that I did not create. I was actually really frustrated that day/night also so my normal frame was screwed up to begin with.

My thoughts: I am already pretty alpha male when I do my thing anyway, can adding a314 make you seem un-fun or too serious? I already give off a huge sexual presence, I get “are you a player” all the time, will turn up the heat make me seem too strong? And women already open up there entire lives to me within the first 4 hours of knowing them. I get “I’v told you like everything about me but don’t know anything about you”, will adding CTTM2 which has alpha/beta nol’s in it make me seem TOO much of a friend? I have great results, I WANT BETTER!

Last night my AFC buddy wanted me to wing and the girls we meet up with totally turned me off so I jumped in this 6 set (2M 4F) and just started running some light game. Besides the expected results there were no huge things going on. Basically made friends for the night and then left. I had on 2 sprays of Cttm2, 3 sprays of IS, one drop a314 and a spray of turn up the heat x2.
PS. im a really bad wing, im too selfish.

Seems like nothing is happening as a result of spending so much damn money. Or maybe its my normal game is really good anyway that I expect too much. Any suggestions?

So every one awnsers the qustions right
1.am I expecting to much?
2.will A314 make an already alpha guy seem un-fun or too serious
3.will adding cttm2 too a person who already has that “open up” aura make me seem friendly when I want to be attractive
4.will adding turn up the heat make a guy whos game is real direct and sexual seem TOO strong?
5.does IS even work? wont adding A314 with IS cancel the effect (logic)?
6.whats a good mix for me?
-my other thread is in the introduction part under “hows your backhand”, it explains a little about my perceaved chemestry.

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I did get a free drink last night from an attractive bar tender that only after talking about her eyes and telling her they scare me had “a drink” with me. It usually takes longer to get free drinks, more like 10 min of talk but she hooked me up in like a min. I shrugged it off as a fluke, but could the pheros added in my already awesome presence?

ps. I do come off as “full of my self” but im a average looking guy who does real good with women. I have a right to be conceded, damnit! course I do get “you look like a thin Orlando Bloom allot”, which always makes my day! And sense your all helping me out I can let you in on me, Im just getting over an ULTRA HUMBILING brainwashing I received as a 8 year vet of Catholic schooling. So conceded is a good change, TRUST ME! Much better to live life for yourself I have found, and then helping others in the process.

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what kind of results WERE you expecting??

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I think you’re jumping into mixing too quickly. As is usually recommended, start off with each product individually, note how it changes things, and move on to another. Play with the dosing with each individual product until you find the sweet spot with it. I still do this whenever I try a new pheromone or product (I usually test on the weekdays)

After a while you’ll build a solid understanding how each pheromone product works for you (as they work differently for everyone), and you’ll have a realistic understanding how you can use them. The better you understand how pheromones work, the more proficient you’ll be with them…There is a lot of trial and error involved, as is with any learning process.

-1) What exactly are you expecting? If you’re merely expecting pheromones to enhance you’re game a bit and make your endeavors both easier and more rewarding then I wouldn’t think you’re expecting too much

-2) A314 can certainly make you too serious and un-fun, which is why I usually leave it out of social mixes. It can give you a higher degree of assertiveness, but it can also get excessive. Other people do have great results with A314 socially though. Experiment more to see how it works for you.

-3) As mentioned in your introductory thread, just because androstenol’s are generally thought to be friendly, doesn’t mean they’re anti-sexual. You can be social and friendly and attractive at the same time. Really depends on how you want to come off with people. Typically if one of your better characteristics is that people open up to you well, androstenol will usually accentuate that in a highly positive way (most other pheromones don’t seem to react in this manner)

-4) Turn Up The Heat works best when you’re more direct…androstenone has a highly aggressive side to it that really requires you to take the initiative. It can spark a strong sexual response from women, and often the difference between intimidation and excitement is your own actions. That being said, the aggressive nature of androstenone can make you come off too strongly in excessive amounts. Its all about balance.

-5) IS works quite well actually. One of the more consistent pheromones out there. A314 will cancel any upbeat pheromone to some extent,(and vice versa) but not entirely. The idea is that the synergism between the two pheromones will create a new effect altogether. But you should know what each pheromone contributes individually, in order to really understand whats going on when you mix them.

-6) Again it would probably be best if you didn’t mix right away.

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What Sigma said. I would add -

A314 takes a while to grasp. I had been using mones for a couple of years already before playing with it and it took me at least 3 months to begin to understand it. It’s not really ideal if you are looking for short-term flings - do a search for A314 and stalker.

Don’t expect to notice any change at all for several weeks if not months (although it’s possible you might). It takes a while to become attuned to the subtle changes in social dynamics created by mone use.

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WOW, I had on instant shine today and MAN did I get buzzed! this stuff tore my brain apart. I think Im just going to keep ordering this stuff at X2 or the heavier 50 mcg stuff just to get a buzz on before going out. it might also help that I take a pill called Cerebro, it is a herbal neuro enhancer. I felt buzzed for seriously a hour and a half, some one asked if I was High today. I told them “I dont know”.