Thanks for the info above guys 
Regarding P78, I am beginning to re-assess its value. At first I thought it was great but maybe I was swayed too much by SingerMD’s positive reviews of it. I haven’t played with it too much but do not think it is really possible ‘Instant’ series release standard. I find the main effects of it are:
- seems to make me (and sometimes those around me, possibly sometimes even women) consistently less interested in being social/conversing with others (‘spacey effect’?) particularly in the first 30 minutes-1 hour or so after application;
- slightly more attention from women in a public space;
- women are a little more likely to approach and open up conversations, be friendly (seems to be a bit contradictory to the first effect).
Now has anyone tried P77 and seen anything from this one or is it just a dud???
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