A few questions on putatives

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OK, so I need to re-up on P83, but alot of talk on the forums is about P74, P75, and P79.

Now I am aware AD is trying to test these products effects out, so telling me what they do is a sort of hindrance, but if you could please do that, I would be forever indebted. I don’t want to spend about $30 on a product that either a) doesn’t work for me or b) has effects I do not want. So some preliminary information. Firstly, I want something great for partying or something that will work at work (I’m a backwait at P.F. Chang’s China Bistro, I’m not an office clerk or something strict, if that makes sense). I go to a lot of house parties. I have TUTH, Ammo, P83, IS, IO, P102, Chikara, and MX297 (you can possibly count Molecule K as well) to combine with whichever you suggest. Just want something that’ll get women to want to close the space between us(i.e. ask to dance :smiley: ) or make me seem irresistible. If you could please tell me which putative mixes best with which mone I currently have and what the effects are using that mix, that would be AWESOME. I’m also curious as to what their standalone properties are. And yes, I ran a quick search on these already.

P74 seems to make you almost beta-personalitied. (or P75, not sure). P79 seems to be a sexual, and I’m not sure what P75 really does. I can’t really seem to find anything else on these.

So a run-down:

  • Which (P74, 75, or 79) would pair best with my current products (listed about)?
  • What are their standalone effects?
  • What have you experienced with the mixes you may suggest?
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The problem is they are tricky. Being single molecules the effects are widely variable. The commercial line tends to be balanced enough to be more well-rounded, although once you get a bunch of putatives and can experiment you can tailor effects to your personal approach and makeup better. That said, P79 and P75 tend to be fairly masculine and therefore potentially sexual - p75 in particular, but be careful about using very much. At your age, you want to be careful with stuff like that especially although not as much as with something like -none. P74 isn’t so much beta-making as it is kind of social. A lot of the stuff you’re talking about is fairly masculine, so that might not be a terrible addition to the mix. You’ve got enough sexuality in the products you listed to project that just fine, I imagine, so something to make people relax along with it might go a long way toward making it more effective.

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It’s really easy to do a search on the forum, try Search (right top corner) -> Advanced Search.

Put in the Keyword area: P74 -> Sort Results by Last Posting Date in Ascending Order

Show Results as Posts -> Search Now

You can also search posts by Username

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Thanks for the info. I think I’m going to hold off on buying these products for right now. Or I’ll try the advanced search option since I tried the regular one and can’t find anything.

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Hi EGuz

a new journal report about P79, from every-day use to business to social (and perhaps sexual), is coming this week! Stay tuned!
I think I love this molecule :slight_smile:
I tested it without having read anything about it but 1 thing that is false or not entirely true. My effects are 100% not placebo!

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For your goals I would get P74 in 2.5mcg/spray and use it with AMMO at parties, P75 in 2.5mcg/spray as well and P79 at 12.5mcg/spray and use it with P83 in a mix, atleast 25mcg P83 with 12.5mcg P79 - You would get the most consistent results this way.

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Looking forward to this report! I had a freebie com into replace the A314 that was supposed to be in my newbie kit. Went out on a limb an asked about getting P79. When all was said and done ill be getting some in the mail soonish with the wait time on the putatives. Would have liked to have it before the cruise but I’ll probably be gone when it comes in. Give me something fun to play with when I get home!

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Hey thanks,
but if that was directed towards me: my report will come this week, but not today. I have a very busy week and still tests pending. I like to test a little more before making conclusions.
I suggest you just test it at 12.5 and 25 mu alone. :slight_smile:

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OK lets clarify something. Putatives can pretty much pair with anything. What you choose depends on what you want the mix to say about you or what emotions you would like it to evoke.

The putatives you mention have been around a long time so we know they are not duds. That being said we know they will have some effect but putatives are not stand alone products. They are used to create mixes and steer existing mixes to achieve a unique vibe that fits each persons needs and personality. While we know the general character of the putatives its import for each user to test to see how that putatives reacts with their natural signature. That is why its hard for members to tell you specifically what to get. Pheromones are not one size fits all. If you not willing to put some effort in and test a little then stick to the consumer products for now.

I do understand not wanting to dish out money for something your unsure will fit your needs though so in general here is the character of each putative you mentioned.

P75 signals strength and masculinity. Its not sexual like anone but more of a manly signal that speaks of a males character strength.

P74 is not beta in itself but paired wrong or used in the wrong ratio it can go that way. It helps influence a feeling of harmony and a synchronicity, a bonding of sorts

P79 is an intensifier. It seems to help intensify what ever else your signaling of feeling. Good in sexual situations but not sexual in itself. Can work against you if what your feeling is negative as it will intensify that as well. So basically its going to bring out your natural personality more sharply and that of others.

Now how to wear them basically >>>>>

Of course first its important to test each one alone and find a workable dosage and see what the individual molecule does for your personality. Thats the only way you can truly grow to understand them and know if they fit your needs.

So knowing what the general character is of each and knowing what the character is of what you have already mix wise you will use putative to steer the signal towards a specific vibe you would like to project as well as a certain result you would like to see.

Lets do a few basic examples keeping in mind you natural personality and signature will vary results a little…

Ammo your basic sexy suave masculine attraction.

Ammo + P79= sharpening of the above traits as well as your natural traits.

Ammo + P74 = added connection to that sexy suave masculinity. Because Ammo puts out only a mildly sexual vibe (sexy and sexual are two different things by the way) P74 can overshadow that and put you in the friends box. Something more like Ammo + P74 with a 1/2 a shot of TUTH to enforce the sexuality of the mix would be my suggestion.

Ok lets move on to IO

IO + P79 = annoyingly intense LOL

IO + P75 = Hmmm its hard to come up with a word but popular good old boy vibe is what i get. Probably good for hanging out with the buds at the game or something.

IO + P74 = Compatibility

Just wanted to add this cause I see you have P83…

IO + P83 = dirty talk :smiley:

Then you move onto to building on those vibes in the direction you want to go always taking into account the environment you plan to use them.

For instance

TUTH + IO + P83 + P74 = Sex appeal, sexual compatibility & spontaneity

Very nice combo for dates parties clubbing. I think this one would work well for you. At work I would lessen the amount of TUTH you use and replace it with P75.

This is why layering singles along with other mixes is great. If you have a handful of favorite putatives you can adapt your mixes anyway you like and change that vibe to fit your life and needs.

Now remember you have a natural chemistry and personality and thats going to affect what I just built above and this is why its so important you take the time to get to know how each putative and mix works for you and why its so hard for us to just tell you “Go get this or that and this will occur”

You gotta do the work but in my opinion once you understand them more its great fun and you can greatly influence your surroundings and how people interact with you how ever you want.

Tisha

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Oh no, I know you meant it was coming later. I just meant that the P79 will be something fun to try when I get back from the cruise.

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THANK YOU TISHA! Holy crap, that has answered every question I think I’ve ever had. Still may hold off. I still haven’t perfect my current mixes (close, but not perfected). And I hear putatives are for advanced users to begin with, while I consider myself beginner-intermediate, almost intermediate.

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Ammo + P74 + P79

Ammo + P74 + P79 = WIIIIN!!!!!!
few yrs ago I discovered this mix works great, and was very consistent, it was my every day mix actually. If P79 were still in a 30ml bottle I’d still be using it til today.

evolver and a few users ended up trying the mix as well.

Ammo, P79, P74 1:1:1 - Off the Hook!!!

have fun. It’s Ammo polished (P74) and on steroids (P79).

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here’s an old school spreadsheet that was posted 5 years ago after putatives were introduced and given to some of us experienced users for free. we used to blind test religiously, nobody knew what any of the Ps did, and we’d have a dozen or so people report weekly. It’s kind of funny looking back at us blindly testing sprays like P74 for the first time and putting our fingers on what it did. These are some of the earliest reports.

Crazy how some of the Ps are long gone, like P90 or giggly sprays like P94, weird ones like P88 and a few others. There were some that really had potential but plants closed down, or some were just too expensive. I’m sure Harris lost a few bucks, because he would literally give some of us a SERIES of P’s to test, and we HAD to come back to the board and report weekly.

Those were the fun research days.

edit: lol @ the early testing of P75 haha folks were spraying like 12mcg+ of the stuff and confused as hell lol.