I was browsing in the putatives section of the store and wondered what are your favorite putatives and why? None of them have any list of supposed effects or contents. I searched the forums and there’s some info, but would love to know a bit more.
Good question. I’m in the same boat. Curious but little information.
Why would they be called putative? A little information as to why there is suspiscion that they may have effects, and what those are, would be helpful. I also have only the snippets of information I’ve run across on the forum. It would be much better to have some collected information on what they are suspected of doing.
They’re putatives because they’re suspected to be pheromones. Some are not quite proven yet. Some have moved up to “pheromone” status, because they have shown some pheromonal activity, effects-wise. P79, P83, and others fall into this category.
We don’t want to lead anyone’s opinions, so that’s why we don’t say ANYTHING about them in the product descriptions. We’re into honest to goodness feedback so that we can continue to research and develop products. If we steer people’s opinions in any way, we don’t get honest feedback that we can work with.
We try to eliminate all bias we can. That’s a reason why everything is priced exactly the same in the cart, too. Some of these molecules cost us twice as much as we sell them for (but the feedback is more valuable, so we’d rather go backward for a little time as we’re exploring effects.)
The whole point of the putatives is to push pheromone research forward. I think it’s been stuck to the same three molecules for way too long… and besides, there are some REALLY intense effects to be discovered! Don’t wear P79 to the dentist!
Aaaah I see. So the whole idea is then to buy em and try em and report back? Hmmmm sounds like fun. But I may wait until I’m a bit more experienced before I jump in there, although I do love surprises (some of the time at least)
That’s why they’re in the Researchers/Advanced Users section.
We don’t want everyone and their mother getting into them, because some are hard to wrap your head around. Some are subtle. Some are overt. Some, we just don’t know.
Seek out Tacitus’ posts on the putatives. He’s massively sharp.. .to almost superhuman degree… and by the end of the week will have the entire catalog of putatives… If anyone can feel out the subtleties of social dynamics, it would be him.
With respect, if you want your subjects to have a clean slate, they should not be exposed to each other’s opinions and experiences with the putatives you’re testing on the forum either. Those will bias your results as much as providing information up front. As it is, we can get some information on others’ experiences by laborious digging through the forum (and use of the search function, my secret -rep giver).
Got another negative rep for my first post in this thread. With just a few posts on this forum I have collected more negative reps than from years of posting on other boards. Have I stumbled into a culture where I don’t fit, or is there just a lot more hostility on this board than most others?
being exposed to eachothers ideas on the putatives is not leading like you think, because after-all, the ones that test the putatives are the ones ballsey enough to buy something for the sake of being the first ones to try it, talk about it,and so not too many are going to buy a test-mone based on what one person says could happen.
although we all know tacitus.
he’s usually right on the money
i have only tested a few myself, and P79 being one of the stronger ones definately has me knowing they could be putatives of fire !
in a good way,lol, of course!
ok - you know what - i’ll take one for the team…and boldly go where no woman has gone before (except Jasmin). Simply because I need the info, and it disappoints me that we don’t have huge threads like the men do.
It’s highly amusing to know that we are the small family of people who are the first of 105 000 000 000 humans that have existed through time who are using pheromones in absolutely unnatural proportions.
I’m proud to think that I’m one of the first males on earth to have worn female pheromones and confused the shit out of guys and gals.
The funniest ever was my fear mix comprised of:
5 double sprays of TAL (10 normal Tal sprays)
3 Sprays of MX102
Jasmin, is it possible to ask you to make us some special recipes with the ingredients that my brother and I ask for? Because we have been thinkinh of asking you guys to make us a mix with P74, none, rone, TAA and some more stuff.
How much is a spray for you? What impact did you find (from this mix) and from wearing high doses of fem mones generally? How did you find your own behavoiur changing (increase in feminine energy)? How did people react when you initiated conversation vs your personal baseline?
I find generally with TAH people are much more receptive, one draws more attention and also one does tend to put out more of an androgynous vibe which confuses people and sometimes makes them think you are gay.
10 mcg on both. Although P93 seems to have very sexual effects on women when worn by men, at one time there were some test mixes (MX201 and MX202. The guys had MX200 and MX201) offered for women with ultra-low none and P93. I didn’t see any reviews on the women’s mixes by women. We’ve already seen that what’s good for the gander can be workable with adjustments for the goose, so…
And it may not be just sexually attractive to women. We don’t know unless women wear it. It could be another intensifier, and the way Tacitus describes it, it sounds like a good time all around. I mean, he was happily sniffing a paper towel all day, so it’s not like men don’t enjoy it too. Of course he has a deliciously sensitive phero nose but there was a report of men getting hits from Asian men, at least as far as stopping them in their tracks, with the MX200-201. I don’t think I know any Asian men right at the moment. Well, I have plenty of time before my order comes to find some. If I have to, I’ll go back to that lovely restaurant I went to with my daughter and see what happens with that waiter my daughter found so attractive
It has very sexual results on women (allegedly even more so on Asian women) but we don’t know why - and the worst thing that could happen is that I will really turn myself on sniffing a paper towel (and thinking of the Brawny Man, lol) and possibly turn some women on too but what the heck. I mean, here I am, stuck at home in an ice storm. I could do worse than tripping on P93 (it definitely sounds like a party/entertainment putative). I wish I had some right now.
I really wanted to get the MX201-202 too, but chickened out. I figure I will get the P93 cheaper and try it with cops, Instant Sexi, the works. Some female needs to get out there and test this. Could be a dud or worse but I’ve got this feeling…As Steed used to say on the Avengers…
“Mrs. Peel…we’re needed.”
Ail, your location is cracking me up and taking me back. There used to be a comic store here with a huge very sexy Catwoman poster (the comic character) and the words “She’s your dream…and your worst nightmare”
I loved that poster.
I’m super stoked you hopped on the P93 train! I’ve sooo wanted more femmes to try that one out.
I’ve only been in its presence so far, but I’m liking its partiness/chattiness/fun vibe. I totally want to hear more about what you’re going to do with it!
vkat, you’re cute. I love you.
Yeah, I’m thinking the 25 will be nice and megadosed enough for us to notice if we should dump the whole bottle in our shirts, or should chuck it in a river. At least we can figure out what a nice concentrated blast would feel like, then work down (or up?) from there.
Omg, Nun… we’re doing P93, too. I should just put together a pack.
You bet. From time to time we have the custom pheromone mix builder up and available in the store. It’s been too busy here lately to enable it for everyone, but if you want to send me a PM with the details I can shoot you back with a quote.
Oh, you might also like to play with a couple of the MX’s that are coming out next week, including every single component you just asked for. More details will come on Monday or Tuesday, when all the shipping problems have normalized and things are back on track like they used to be.
I love confusing the sh*t out of everyone with my pheromone signature.