Now that there is some amount of info on almost all putatives, will their real chemical name be revealed?
Especially the more popular ones, like P79, which have been tested by quite a lot of users and have even been incorporated in non-experimental products like TUTH.
So, is there any time frame when their names will be revealed?
NEVER!!! Muah-ha-ha-ha!
Ah, hell, I dunno.
I would really like to know what I’m using too.But MHarris and Jasmin seem to keep it top secret.So no high hopes on that.
OK, makes sense for them not to reval their real chemical name. But since some of them have demonstrated real capability as a pheromone shouldn’t they now be moved to Experimone rather than still being putative.
Why should they reveal their chemical names? So that all the dodgy pheromone companies out there (and there are plenty) can synthesise their own versions of these compounds and capitalise on the good work that Androtics have done? Is LaCroy (a decent company btw) for example willing to tell us their secret ingredients LOL?
Androtics has spent a lot of money and effort in synthesising these ‘putatives’ (and setting up this shop) and I for one am highly appreciative of that. Another year of testing and trying out new putatives is an exciting prospect indeed! How many new ‘pheromones’ (not just different versions of Androstenone plus an added ingredient here and there) came out in the few years prior to Androtics setting up shop - hardly any. So if this is the way for us to get access to new compounds (to call them P74 or P88 or whatnot) then who cares!
I couldn’t really care what the chemical name of P79 is (or whichever other ones are found to work well). As long as it works for me the same each time I order it and is available indefinitely who really gives a stuff!
Having said that, I would like to hear more comments from Jasmin or MHarris on what each one does (although obviously I understand they do not want to prejudice the results they are getting from users of these molecules, whose effects are still largely unknown).
Visionary
When we started, we revealed quite a bit. The same person/company put us down publicly for one of the molecules we introduced, then copied us a few months later.
We also had one our early list of our molecules get out, only to form the basis of the business of a certain lab in the great north.
These and some other things taught us hard lessons. We actually haven’t benefited as much from our research as have other companies.
We could really only reveal trade secrets at this point if we got a patent on the molecules in question. I know Michael doesn’t like patents too much. He claims that a lot of people the related things independently and patents can hurt that. He doesn’t want to kill innovation, but we do need to become profitable. That’s why we now walk the middle road and use codes in lieu of molecule names.
You’re absolutely right. Some of the putatives are obviously earning pheromones status, like P79.
We have our own internal lettering systems for pheromones, but they’re very confusing to most people. The T series is an example of that. We’re probably going to streamline everything in a way that’ll make more sense to everyone.
We’ll likely move confirmed pheromones to another area, and continue to use the P## name since it’s simpler for people. We’re probably also change all of the TAA, TAF, TAK type names back to their original P## names. “P” itself will no longer mean “putative”.
So what you’ll find is that some P##s will be confirmed useful pheromones. Others will be putatives. Some will be confirmed duds. The difference being that the good ones will be in the ExperiMone area, and the putatives in their own putative category.
I just read this, did Jas and Mharris finally disclose what putatives TA molecules were? 
Just curiosity.
Apparently we will never know as was said… trade secrets and all that…
Up there with those other “11 secret herbs and spices.”
It’s normal, we have to understand that secret with so many “products” outside… Thank you Rbt!
MWA HAHAHAHA 
Do you know some of them toil? 
Lets assume I did, and then if I told you, i’d have to kill you for sure. 
So please tell us!! Then you can come to chicago or palermo and negotiate with the other families to conspirate and kill me
We learn a lot more by running a blinded study because we don’t go unconsciously inserting our assumptions about what we think a molecule ought to do based on its name… by making the designations as free of suggestion as possible only then are the feedbacks reliable… and finally can effective products be made based on real responses versus imagined responses… never underestimate “description hypnosis”… like, Jeffrey Dahmer wasn’t a bad looking guy, and if he had been nominated for Community Good Guy you might think Jeffo was a pretty decent fellow until you find out he has a thing for eating other men who he has fallen in love with, his way of making sure they “stay with him”… ultimate loyalty pact between man and chicken fried bicep… the power of association can be greater than folks generally assume…
Agreed, Tacitus. If there were people saying that Alpha-nols made women shred off their clothes and hump one’s leg like a rabid dog, then I’m fairly certain that people who read that post would order that product, and report that it did exactly that, even though it would just be the persons boosted confidence shining through in their game that got the target female hot and bothered enough to do something about it.
Dont be silly snook. We all know its MX103 that has that effect!
What if their clothes are already off, but it’s in purely a business setting? I seriously need me some MX103.
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Oh shut up, Data4.
-D4
Data, if you have MX102, you can actually get harder hits than with MX103. Unfortunately its difficult to find the right dosage with MX102. Have you experienced a hard hit with MX102 yet?
Right now, MX102 is worth 50x its weight in gold just from the confidence boost it gives me. It has even more of a self effect on me than Instant Shine. My dose varies, but usually it’s 2 full sprays on pulse points, i.e. wrists, inner elbows, or neck, and one spray to my finger and rubbed in the mustache zone above my lips. Every time I’ve done this, I get this massive feeling of indestructibility within 4-6 hours after applying it.
-D4