im new to all of this, just started reading up on products,reviews etc and every time i find something that has a lot of positive reviews, i find i cant order it in the UK.
where/what would you recommend ?
to go a little bit into detail:
im not the best looking guy, average maybe, give or take. i know it and having reached my age, i learned to live with it..
at my work place we have a bunch of new starters, half of them female, and as usual they wont give me a second glance.
except one…
shes the kind of type that usually wouldnt even look at me even once… but she keeps inviting me to go out.
just us, daytime in public meets of things.like for a coffee.
fast forward a little bit, we have been out twice now, it was nice but very platonic.
she mentioned she only wants to make some friends (she just moved here) and nothing else.there went my hope..
i just cant ignite that spark and this isnt going anywhere.
and althou it may sound desperate, i want something hard hitting.
the way things stand, i dont need a slight advantage but a little miracle.that mortar shell of attraction and seduction even if i have to mix it myself; shes worth it.
back to square one with this, im still pretty clueless what works and what doesnt (after reading a gazillion reviews and scams) and where to get it from since US stores dont deliver to the UK due to shipping laws which sadly enough then includes amazon as well.
There is no problems getting AD - and indeed most other Phero company products sent to the UK. The only thing you may face is an extra customs/handling charge bit that’s more by way of an annoyance and I must say it is more likely with other companies.
Which firms were those? Most of the reputable phero sellers have no problem at all, other than the cost issue.
Androtics Direct are about the best in the business for both customer service and delivery, better than even most UK/EU-based suppliers that I’ve used - This is their forum and the store link is at the top of every page. Other good ones will reveal themselves in discussion and include:
Lovescent - Reliable but can be geologically slow. Almost always hit with customs charges because they use USPS/Fedex.
PXS - Almost as good as AD for delivery but again, using Fedex for international means they nearly always get hit by UK customs.
Liquid Alchemy - Reliable, slightly slow but I’ve always had stuff within a month. Never been hit by customs with them but I have twice had to pay small adjustment charges to the shipper.
Lacroy - Products good but shipping from SA can take several months and their customer service is non-existent. Use Lovescent instead, or their new German agent on Amazon.
Otherwise, most of the Amazon/Ebay sellers are at the more shonky end of the business and are maybe best avoided.
This should be a huge warning sign - she’s as good as told you outright that she has no interest in you.
If I was in this position - which I have been more times than I’d care to admit. I would either pull right back from her and just be polite, or continue seeing her genuinely as a friend, using a fairly social/sexy mix and go for all-out fun but use her to expand your circle and provide social proof when meeting other women. It is amazing how having a woman around you helps pique the more genuine interest/attraction of even more women.
There are one or two other phero-based strategies you could try but they are long-game and not really ones to embark on unless you are getting very obvious and directly contradictory IOIs from her that signal there is underlying attraction on an unconscious/non-verbal level. Even then I’d still be careful/wary as mixed messages can indicate other potential red-flag issues up-ahead.
The Newbie Kit from AD is a good way to start - Gives you a broad spectrum of social, status and sexual products at a healthy discount, which will give you a good idea of what suits you best and establish your dose range for the different products.
At the same time, working on your shyness/social issues in other non-phero ways will also be of great value to you and pheros will help everything hang-together more effectively/reliably.
the messages are indeed mixed.
thats why i will give it my best shot.times two.
as for the company question..
most things i looked up on amazon, tried to order, it failed every time with an error message.
asked someone and the idea was, that its because its certain chemicals and/or alcohol are in the products.
thats why i cant order my favorite aftershave online either..
went for more research and ended up here, which seems to be a very good thing
also, why is un-fragranced “highly UN-recommended” on Androticsdirect?
my idea was to try a mix or two of different things completely unscented and use my usual cologne over it
OK - that first link is one of the overhyped and very likely underperforming products that bring people here in droves.
The second is however a genuine product - it was indeed my very first phero and yes it got me results.
However it is a very basic Androstenone in Isopropyl alcohol at around 6mcg per spray. Which is fairly sexually overt but the poor diffusion on the skin (or worse still on clothes) makes-up for that. Still, you get a lot for you money and I still have some that I use in mixes occasionally but you will probably soon find you need something more. As a sexually overt single molecule, its applications are limited. Clubs, parties, drinking and with established partners are its natural element - polite company, first dates etc, its impression is a bit like you are standing there with you cock-out!
Generally, pheros need a scent and fixative to diffuse well off your skin. There are a few exceptions depending on individual molecule and some new types of carrier that smell of next to nothing but in most cases a small amount of scent will help get your pheros out-out there nicely. It need not be a strong scent and it can often be covered/complemented by other commercial scents but it does help. AD’s standard 6% Neroli (light orange) is a light, evented cover that is fully covered with most commercial colognes
Also, there is really no such thing as unscented pheros - All pheros and their breakdown products have some scent and depending on individual sensitivity to the individual molecules, some people can smell them quite strongly and often unpleasantly - eg Androstenone can smell like cat piss to some, Androsterone can be musty/changing-room type scent and others can be cheesy, fruity or like something has curled-up and died somewhere. A cover scent will help you manage this much more effectively.
Also, many of the folk buying fully unscented pheros will be mixing their own and adding scent/fixative components as well, so its more a serious hobbyist thing.
Scent, yes and fixative - something to keep the pheros active on your skin, diffusing evenly without breaking down too fast. That can be a bit of a challenge depending on your environment - hot/cold and humidity all have bearing.
Yes, pheros do kind of grow on you but the main thing is that you enjoy yourself and don’t get too hung-up on them!
There are tons of suggestions in here for different fixatives/cover scents/prolonging strategies but when starting out, try not to hamper things until you have an idea of how the basic product works for you.
