Can I ever use them again???

Today was really terrible :angry:

It happend sometimes that the girlfriend of my friend (and him) said that I smell bad. But today it really was to much. The girlfriend of my other firend also said that I smell bad.
She said that I smell like pee !!!
However one of the other girls said that I smell godlike.

I had this topic here more than once as I remember but with no real solution.
Really i CAN’T use mones anymore or at least I think “special versions of none” that smell this bad. I mean if it smells this bad to some women it is far from acceptable to me. It was a really unpleasantly situation :frowning:

Seriously I do not want to smell like pee to ANY woman I meet!!

I really think now if the mones smell bad to quite a big amount of people, I maybe have more bad than good effects??

This acutally makes me VERY upset!!!

What were you wearing? Is it just when you are wearing a certain thing? Or anything? Also, how long have you had this reaction from people? I know you’ve been using mones for awhile, longer than me even. Are you in good health?

Have you ever been told negative comments when wearing A314?
Edit: Have you tried covering with a good cologne? Something like a Green Irish Tweed, or LANUIT DEL**’**HOMME by YSL.

Hey guys,

I also tried to cover it with some good cologne, but it seems who can smell it smells it whatever use to cover it!!
I mean I do not whant to smell like a perfume shop when i go out.

I paused to use A314 for a very long time, I think half a year and again when I used it my mom went crazy how bad I smell :frowning:

When I was out today I used a self made mix with none from AD in it which smells bad even to my nose :-/

I mean I really feel terrible now, girls telling me I smell like piss :angry:
These have been girls I know good, so how much girls that smell me think I smell bad and don’t tell me??

Ok what were you wearing when the GF of your friend said you smelled like pee ? Do you remember your application points that day ? Are you kinda hairy ? Did you wear cover that day.

A314 has so little anone in it that you would smell more pee walking past the men’s room then on you. Its mostly arone which doesn’t carry the pee smell like anone does.

Your mother will react badly no matter what pheromone you wear. We bond with our parents pheromonally from the time we are born. If something is changed about your mone signature she will pick up on it right away. Its not the smell she doesnt like its the feeling that is associated with the smell. My mother frequently says I smell like a french whore when I have mones on LOL. She says it in a loving way though. No one else seems o be able to smell it though. Its a weird phenomenon.

Have you tried switching to anti bacterial soap ?

Have you tried applying to cloths instead of skin ?

Tisha

probably an overdose? because I’m 15 years old and i’m seeing really good effects from mones, and never heard a bad compliment, all i hear is you smell good, you look better today, and yeah..

You haven’t said how much you are wearing. So how much are you wearing, and what are you wearing? Also if you were wearing heavy none is it possible that this girl was on her period?

OK couple of points.
You haven’t mentioned what specific mones you wore and in what quantities/ratios. It could be your body reacting to one pheromone or several…if you’ve followed the instructions for testing one product at a time then you’d know.

Tish is right about the antibacterial soap, I’d like to add that I use an Axe shower detailer/scrubber to remove as much dead skin as possible. It actually helps quite a bit.

What cover cologne if any are you using?

The girl that mentioned this smell did that a long time ago, also her boyfriend.
I got most times an immediately complain when I used A314, IG, MX330 or Androstenone from Androtics.
It cannot be my soap because it one that is used for babys, cause it is THIS mild =)

As far as I know only None and Anone can smell like this and I had about 3.75mcg none and 3.75mcg P75.

Whatever cologne I used the same people usual complained about the smell!

Do I have to put THIS much cologne so nobody can smell anything else??

It is just strange because I did not have this problem with products that are not from Androtics…

[quote=Hyper; I paused to use A314 for a very long time, I think half a year and again when I used it my mom went crazy how bad I smell quote]

Scientist discuss the concept of “smell print” where memories are associated with certain smells. Smells are like fingerprints, highly individualized. Your mother’s knows you.

Well, if two girls say you smell like pee, and one says you smell God-like. What does that tell you?

And, if Androtics is the ONLY one’s that smells like pee, it sounds pretty clear! 1) You’re not really getting -none at the other place. 2) Don’t purchase anymore products from AD. 3) Continue testing for targets that say you smell like pee. 4) Continue testing for targets that say you smell God-like. :cool:

Hang in there! Should you never wear mones again in life … you’ll be just fine. :wink:

hmmm… Are all of these products in the neroli scent? Is it the neroli that they don’t like?
Also are you combining all of those products together? What’s your actual spray/drops for each of those products?

I’ve noticed the same effects once with IJ and IG.
Two different girls with this bad reaction.

I asked an other girl about her opinion.
She said that she doesn’t smell anything like pee.

So there is nothing wrong.
But there are girls who can smell mones and don’t like them.

a314 kinda smells like cat pee for me.. no-one else seems to notice though..

i’ve also noticed when using ammo or IG.. when the cover scent wears off, there is this musky BO like smell.. not an offending odour.. just a very masculine smell..

i think some people are just able to conciously smell and pick up pheromones (genetic trait?)..

i actually caught out one of my friends using phero’s due to my ability to smell them.. he denied it, until i told him i use them myself.. lol

What i´ve noticed is that some guys on steroids are much more sensitive to pheromones than the normal guy !
So do you know with this guy ?
Higher hormone levels seem to influence the sense of smell.

My observations with women are that during their monthy cicle their ability of sensing and smelling mones varies in a wide range.
This has as well been reported here on the board several times.

My EX´s mom was even able to smell pure A1 !
( no no it didn´t break down to none )
we mixed it under perfume and gave her some to try out and she said immediately after application that it stinks like hell like not showered for weeks.

Rone is the pheromone found in urine and can have as well a pissy scent but it´s only a minority that can detect it scentwise !

There are some putatives that are reported to badly stink and need a cover !
P86 for example has an acidy smell for me …

Hyper i understand that it highly depresses you and that you felt bad because of the comments !
The issue is not thinking about quitting with mones the issue is to figure out what causes the bipolar reactions in your friends.
I suggest to play around with different cover scents and applying to clotes !

I for myself had bad reactions with The Edge and NPA … look i´ve been told to smell like dead dog !
I tweaked the dose and used differnt covers and after this the hits came rolling !

So far

Pago

And think about the girl that said that you smelled God like !

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You keep mentioning anone but the thing is A314 and IG are both AndrosteRone and really dont carry the piss smell like Androstenone does.

That’s the problem, your not a baby anymore. Men sweat. The soap is to mild and not killing enough of the bacteria that we all carry on our body that convert mones and sweat to BO.

Again IG has no Androstenone in it. A314 has only trace amounts. Cant comment on MX330 because I am not sure. They are both androgens though and bacteria can convert them.

I have to wonder is it the same people. Your mom which we already explained. Close friends ? Have any people who dont know you well made a indication you smell bad ?

Pheromones by nature smell like human musks. If your using something else that has no scent either there are no pheromones in it or its a low concentration.

Seriously try the other tips I mentioned. The soap and the clothes application. You didnt mention where you were applying either on your body.

Tisha

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My mother reacts very well to my mones… NOT as well as my 21yr old sister… absolute magic on her… Am wearing some around my 25yr old sister right now and no odd complaints/smell bad reactions besides she REALLY wanted me to hold my nephew badly…My dad has the most negative effects in a positive way… He’s not as hard on me as he used to be and he agrees with me more and treats me more like a co-worker/friend. I think I finally “grew-UP” in my parents eyes which is a good thing cause im almost 29yrs old. I use ammo, a314,IO,IH, and IS around them in various doses

I don’t use mones all the time. I think using it all the time could POSSIBLY have a MINOR health implication down the road. I use it about two or three times per week at most, whenever I go out and hope to meet women. Sometimes, when I am stuck with work and I don’t go out to parties/bars, I don’t even where them for a few weeks. Therefore, I am not worried much what is going to happen to me. On the other hand, If I were to use some for work, parties, bars, etc - pretty much ALL THE TIME - I might be a bit cautious. I use mones as if they are suits/tuxedos; dress up when going out :wink:
CoolKat

On that evening when it happened again I was wearing:
P96
P86
P75
P74
P126
TAC
ANone

I was outside and it is already a bit cold here, so I had to put the mones just on chest and around neck. So the bacteria thing should have been at least at this day not a problem.

All products are in Grapefruit now as I assumed that maybe some bad reactions came from Neroli that I used before. But it changed nothing.

These same pleople are close friends and the ex girlfriend of my brother.

I will think about this soap thing any look after another one. Can you suggest any special?

If I use more or a stronger cologne, will that help that these people cannot smell this anymore? Or will they still smell this through it.

I dont know what they have in Germany. Look for anything that says anti bacterial like Dial. If you have sensitive skin all brands usually carry something in there line for that as well.

Your chest and neck also carry the coryneform bacteria. I know its sounds gross but we all have it on us from head to toe. Its more active in dark warm sweaty areas of the body though.

Also you used a lot of different molecules up there. You need to determine which ones are the stinkers for you so you may have to go back and try them one by one again.

From experience I can tell you that …

P75 and Androstenone can smell pissy

P96 gives more of a musky skin scent. Not bad just like skin.

P74 and P86 has no scent problems

TAC smells sweet to me but not like piss.

P126 is newer. I find no pheromone smell what so ever with it.

So maybe test the most likely subjects out first.

Are they aware you use pheromones ? Do not make people aware of it. They work in the subconscious once you make them conscious of it they often begin to mask and associate.

There is a possibility your Brothers GF is what Harris calls a super smeller.

Here read this …

Tisha