I’m considering purchasing IS 4X, but was curious about something.
Can too much IS sort of overpower your other stuff, such as IG or IH?
It seems that Shine is generally considered an “enhancer”, so the idea of adding MORE is intriguing to me.
Care to weigh in?
I once saw Ishine overpower a small street gang. By the end of it three were dead, two required “amber-lamps” and hospitalization and the gang, the blue bellied zagonuts have never been heard from again!
Personally though I have never noticed an overpowering of Ishine. It’s pretty mild in my opinion and 4X should be the standard.
Haha, funny… I dont use too much, but 2x togo does more than it job.
What I hear at times from ladies is that, my skin looks “amazing” “impeccable” “healthy and glowy” 
Another thing to keep in mind is if you’re like me and enjoy spiking your colognes with pheros, you only need a tiny amount of IS for a good mix as opposed to, well… four times that amount of liquid.
I have not yet used IS, but from reading what other users have to say, 4x is also good because one spray of 4x is much less scent than four sprays of 1x.
My personal experience has been that the feel good vibe of shine helps people to interpret you other products in a positive context…hence the “enhancer” effect.
IE a high none product can come off as angry or aggressive, whereas shine helps to make feel more youthful, virile and sexy. Likewise, it can make the difference between a high rone sig being mature, sophisticated and alpha, as opposed to just plain old.
I’ve used upwards of 6 sprays over 2 drops of A314 with no loss of the respect vibe, I HAVE noticed a loss of respect vibe when using a comparable dose of IO.
Along the same lines high doses have hurt the sexual or attraction aspects of a none based mix or product.
I think you should be fine with high doses, imo it’s very hard to OD on shine. I think there is a point where you max out the effect and any extra would be wasted.
4x as standard strength would be nice, but I just wish it lasted longer
I was trying to find a way to use this in oil, prolly going to start testing it with 5 ML’s first with extra dpg added on, I’ll let you know when I eventually get to do it.
I wear shine almost every time I apply pheromones -work, pickup, chill with friends…whatever.. WHO DOESN’T WANT TO BE HAPPY? People want to be around people they feel happy around. SHINE = HAPPY.
Haha, good point!
I was only thinking that Shine could be so prevalent in a mix that it drowns other pheromones. I guess not.
It might down out at like 25X. But 4x won’t do that…
Seriously I get girls come and touching me at 2x to go by itself. A spray to each neck. I also notice some guys getting irritated with 2x of IS alone.
I think jasmine said that 15 mcg of it is more than enough, a togo probably has about 12mcg taa per spray. Yeah, just saying
I have tried to OD on IS when I first got it. It was and still is “addictive” for me becasue of the self effects; but no matter how much of it I spray I feel good and everyone around me is always happy. the socials and some putatives that have been vetted are hard to OD on, for me anyway.It comes done to testing testing testing. It is entirely possible that I could wear 20 sprays of IS and no negative effect; on the flip side, one guy I know that is just plain annoying and always bursting with “annoying” energy with the same amount would likely end up having a negative reaction. 
PS i know a guy, that guy hat should never have IS.
We actually used to sell TAA as an oil. While it has a tendency to act quickly and therefore dissipate much quicker than any other mone, with the oil it did take some time to off the countdown so to say. However, one of the reasons for the oils demise was it also diminished the effects to virtually nil. It was very expensive to make and just wasn’t getting the results of that in your face sense of well-being that Ishine is known for. I believe Ishine, in all its iterations has had about 10 or more different promising fixatives applied to it over its course. Not sure what the progress has been with any of them, but whatever I have tested has IMHO always shown more hype than actual promise. It would be awesome if Androtics could find that balance 
I’m aware of MX136-140 (Liquid Sunshine) and MX288-289, but were there other Instant Shine test mixes? Any idea how those fared? I have MX136. I purchased them when there was a big store clean-up a while back. I like the results it. I actually get better self effects than I do with Instant Shine.
I have TAA oil and I love love love it.
Ishine doesn’t overpower other mones in my opinion. It just enhances everything and makes it better.
I also have MX289 which was the Ishine extendo mix that lasts longer then the original and I forget the MX number (will have to run up and search through all my bottles) of the other one that they tested with 8X the TAA in it but both are really good. I generally buy it in 4X now.
Its one of the best products AD has in my opinion.
Tisha
Very true.
Girls are more clingy and giggly, and guys avoid and get irritated.
Possibly, that it sends off a vibe, to the guys, that you are a weak immature and/or a young and “too happy” kinda guy. Like a, Ned Flanders kinda vibe?
I’ve read older reports on Shine stating that high doses can act as an irritant to males much in the same way that high none levels can cause irritation is women during their period. I’m also under the impression (and I may be wrong) that TAA is also one of if not the primary ingredient in Mystery Boy which would imply that it’s effects on males is dependent on sexual orientation.
Now I’ve never used Mystery Boy but I do use Shine and often times a good amount of it and I’ve never noticed any irritation from males. Since discovering AD products and the true potential that pheromones offer I have shifted my focus to pay more attention to how men are effected by my mixes as well as women since success in life depends on positive responses from both genders.
Shine by itself I’ve used in fairly high doses and never had any effects other than people seem more inclined to smile, they are more likely to engage in pleasant conversation (not to the degree that I get with IO but still) and just seem to take a natural liking to me.
It is, imo a perfect additive to almost any product and adds a charismatic vibe that effects both genders fairly equally.
My common analogy uses A314 as an example.
A314 by itself can be the powerful Dictator that rules by intimidation.
A314+Shine is the Charismatic politician that LEADS by inspiration.
Nope, never had negative effects with Shine, still have a to go of 2X that I got as a gift a while back that I always keep with me when experimenting with new products or mixes as a last minute buffer for possible negative effects or OD’s. “In case of Emergency Spray This”
Almost my exact theory.
It seems to depend on the person and situation; and their current signature.
For example..
I am, for lack of better words, a boss (not springsteen) at my job. Mid-level manager. Lower levels report to me, and executives unload their complaints on to me. The execs never interact with the lowers. I am fair with everyone and get along well with everyone that is under me.
Anyways…
I tested out some mones while working a few 12 hour days.
When I used shine, 2-3 sprays in 4 hour intervals, I was ignored by almost all males, and when I asked them to do something, they even sometimes declined or proceeded to do other things (very uncommon). Nobody was really talking with anyone else, and nobody seemed interested in being at work. The ladies gave smiles as usual, and talked about anything and everything.
The next day, I wore Instant honesty, and it was as if I was around totally different people. Everyone was eager to socialize and laugh the whole day. A lot of people came to talk to me, were smiling and asking me for help with things that normally don’t require my help, everyone was joking and many social groups formed around me. The day went easy and conversations and socializing were increased to above normal levels.
What I meant was " Instant shine alone with no other mones"
When I use ammo with IS… it is a TOTALLY different ballgame
It enhances ammo like 5 fold
My test was using shine only.