i’ve been using A1 a couple of weeks now dosage between 20mcg to 40mcg its an oil 10mcg/drop so im asking if we can od from A1 ?? what effect can be seen with dosage below than 10mcg?
You can use too much A1, yes - Its not as straightforward as a None OD though.
Firstly, if you suffer negative self effects from A1, then you will be getting it bad and some have reported that if they use a hefty enough dose, guys close to them can start to go on a downer too.
However even if you don’t suffer, you can overuse A1 to the point where it flattens the effect of every other phero in a mix, making their use pretty pointless. This is one of the most common mistakes you see with people using A1 in mixes - they go-for the “more must be better” approach. A1 is a good None moderator, so too much ends-up overly comforting with the effect of cutting the balls-off of any sexual element in the mix and turning you into a great big teddy-bear/cuddly dog. Not good!
Saying that, 40mcg in oil is very usable - I’ve made A1 oils at approx 25, 45 and 80mcg and used them effectively. The 45/80mcg were always used alongside robust sexuals and status/sexuals e.g. TUTH/A1/TAC or A314/TUTH/A1. Generally at just one drop.
A1 suits oils better than sprays IMO, as it helps limit its annoying sudden breakdown to stink due to slight temp changes and the slow/steady diffusion of oils helps slow any negative self effects and encourages longer-term responses.
A1 also really delivers in low does when worn standalone. When I was conditioning myself to the negative effects I started wearing it at approx 5/6mcg and got surprisingly good results - often in a “stealth” manner, with women around me displaying huge physical IOIs and “sweetheart” responses. It was a great one to open on complete strangers with. 
Hey mobo, I’m curious if you know how fast A1 would breakdown in a general time estimate. I know skin temp, ambient temps, etc etc. all factor into this, but could you give me an average time to when A1 really isn’t A1 anymore? Cause I’ve used A1 spray up to 75mcg and had fantastic results that lasted hours in a cool inside setting, I don’t think I ever had the problem yet of it converting, probably because I wash and re-app fast enough & never really getting hot with it on yet.
Now I’m considering getting myself some more straight A1, but the Oil does sound cool too as you put it. (It’s only 5$ more from the vendor I’m buying from compared to their spray)
If its reasonably cool and you are not working-up a sweat then A1 will last in line with most other spray mones. Its where the temp changes/varies that A1’s tendency to sudden breakdown can appear - and there is no timescale for that. It can go quite suddenly, 30-45mins after (say) going from outdoors into a warm club. A wash and re-application is all you can do here, which is why its best to keep your A1 to a different app point to all other mones.
Clean skin, pref barriered will help but its still not nearly as resilient as oils. You can expect a good 8-10 hrs from an oil mix.
Yes, I’d say to go for A1 in oil every time. It just suits it so well.
My policy is to not comment within the thread below. Pheraoh has points. For each A1 user who orders without issue, it seems another spends $200 for overseas shipping to find he has three bottles of an A1 product he cannot use and does not want. Pheromone reviews do not predict individual depression or severity thereof. I don’t think Robin Williams felt “lucky.”
That’s what people say, yes.
I was curious your saying that 5-6 mcg’s is a good dose for a-1 alone I just do one drop out of the bottle from the other place right on my arm.Do you think that is to much? I’m 29 and on the heavier side.
If its ls, then one drop is far more than this - and its not an accurate dropper either. I’ve tested several, with results on a previous thread and found a wide discrepancy in drop size/dose. Also, without a scent, its not going to diffuse at all well and be more prone to stinking faster.
Far better to get some accurate disposable pippettes and mix it yourself to an accurate dose from a known volume. Its pretty easy to work out the amounts needed from the info in K-Train’s A1 Guide thread.
I would like to go the oil route you have any suggestion for a good place to get some?
I believe two of the major competitors do A1 in oil in their single molecule ranges but I must say I tend just to mix it myself from LS A1. DPG is easily got online and instructions are here already. A few drops of commercial cologne are all you need to scent it. The important thing with making an oil is that you leave it for at least two weeks shaking well daily to ensure the pheros distribute evenly. If you have access to an electronic shoogler, this will reduce this stage to a few hours. I reckon one could be made pretty cheaply from an automatic watch winder.
I have two A1 oils maturing for the Holidays just now. A moderate A1/Alphanol/Rone mix that I intend for more balanced/social mixes/steering and a pure A1 heavy hitter for using with full-on status/sexual mixes.
I got my a-1 from LS as well,I was curious if you had cologne that was in oil would it change the amount of a-1 you would need? and if both my a-1 and my cologne were in oil would I still need dpg?
I have done a-1 in some perfume spray before I got from AD just curious how different that would be compared to oil?
I don’t get any depression from A1. I am trying to test only A1 and A1 with A314.
Can I have any OD effect ?
Yes, you can od on pretty much any phero - although it demonstrates different effects for different molecules.