Centaur's CTTM2 report dump

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports
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This is my CTTM2 report Dump, I have been testing it solo for a month, starting with this report on june 6. the funny thing is that I have owned and used it since march, with no effects to report on. the posts might not be in order, but I’ll try to keep them that way. I try to avoid analytical overlay, and just present what I saw, but alas, I am only human.

Product name,scent and strength
CTTM2, neroli scented. 10 Mcg Xrone, out of habit up to now… I stopped using it after this application.

Application dosage and locations
1 sprayeach to back of neck
50 min. later, 4x cttm to hair on arms and back of neck.
Enviroment tested in.
Home party, all women, mostly relatives and close friends

Self effects.
lack of worrying about negative comments when they were made. talked a little more than I was used to about many different subjects. felt a part of conversations and the event in general. nobody was put off by my presence, since my duty in this woman-only party was to keep the children upstairs, and help keep the appetizers running.

Effects to others
women get naturally chatty when they are together. it was a party after all. my sister-in-law suddently started talking to me about some house worries. she was alone in the kitchen, away from the other women. I was the only other person in the kitchen. no other topics being talked about were close to the one she brought up. some women would join together in the kitchen, but did not get any deep convos, just surface stuff, and lots of it. the neighbor came by to visit, and wound up staying for the duration of the party.

Duration of effects.
about 3 hours

Effects from mixing with other products.
I’m sure the Xrone helped a bit with the fatherly figure aura, in essence, I did not stand out amongst any of the women. I was just “there”, kind of like a butler.

Range
6 feet for first hit.
3-15 feet for others.

Time exposure.
50 Min in…

when I added the 4 sprays cttm, I stayed close by the other women and just ‘listened’ and observed. the topics ranged from light to serious, in which they were always light beforehand. when I did join into the topics, nobody was insulted nor felt bad when comments were made. being the only guy in the room, there were a few ‘man’ jokes bandied about, but I was not insulted at them, even though I was a little put off in retrospect. I blended in, and nobody noticed that they just insulted the only guy in the room.

many took an opportunity to talk about more relationship-issues, and some had shown up to do just that, but had a hard time opening up until later on in the party. there were some poignant questions asked and deep thoughts during the relationship questions. I did not see any war-whooping as is usual with outside women giving relationship advice. the party was quieter in the beginning, and around an hour or so, actually started getting noisier as they started opening up about different topics.

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the day this report was recorded was a very busy day, getting up early, and running to 3 different events, and bedtime around midnight. I was exhausted before this report even started.

Product name,scent and strength
cttm2 neroli scented

Application dosage and locations
5x one on each arm, 2 on side of neck, 1 to chest

Enviroment tested in.
car and restaurant

Self effects.
none to report. was quiet in the car, but I tried to start convos to see where they would go, just didn’t feel into it, but tried anyway.

Effects to others
Wife was candid about some emotions at an event earlier that day, surprising insight into her attitudes about certain subjects. at dinner time, there were two other couples. some of them are quiet, but opened up a little. we were all a bit candid about everything, but it was not as open as I had expected a dinner date would go. we went to a comedy movie in the mall, but I was not into the movie at all, even though everyone around me was laughing really hard. I was pensive and thoughtful as to the motives and actions the characters were taking on screen, and how linear the storyline was, and how disingenuous the characters were. my wife said I looked terrified, but I thought I wasn’t showing any emotion. none of the lines were funny to me, even though the entire crowd was laughing and drowning out the audio. our group apologized about going to see it, since they could ‘clearly’ see I wasn’t having any fun.

Duration of effects.
2 hours

Effects from mixing with other products.
covered with Acqua DiGio

Range
2-7 feet

Time exposure.
4 hours

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I took 3 days off.

Product name,scent and strength
Come Talk To Me Mix 2 neroli scented

Application dosage and locations
4x cttm2 one on each arm, one on each side of the neck.

Environment tested in.
small meeting. really small. only one other person showed up.

Self effects.
I had a clear idea of what I wanted to say and how to present it.

Effects to others
kinda quiet, I said what I needed to say, the other person chimed in with their suggestion. normal stuff. mostly quiet with me doing most of the talking. half hour later, on the way out of the meeting room, my coworker starts talking about locking his keys in his car and how he solved that particular problem. I guess he just felt the need to tell anecdotes.

Duration of effects.
about 25 min.

Effects from mixing with other products.
covered with Acqua DiGio

Range
5 feet

Time exposure.
half hour

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Product name,scent and strength
Come Talk To Me Mix 2 neroli scented

Application dosage and locations

3x cttm2 one on each arm, one to neck.

Environment tested in.
Car. driving to relatives house with my child and wife.

Self effects.
quiet, listening. trying to bring up small subjects, just to talk and feel connected. small, unfound worry about not having anything to talk about with my wife.

Effects to others
15 min in, my wife does the same thing I’m doing, bringing up an accomplishment she had at work and how she solved a problem that was dogging her all week. i just cant help but smile she is so beautiful, and I want to give her all the praise she deserves for doing it. I love talking to her, even about silly subjects.
my child is asleep in the car seat.

Duration of effects.
20 min.

Effects from mixing with other products.
covered with Acqua DiGio

Range
3 feet

Time exposure.
45 min drive.

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This report was during a rather important meeting at work, which would define many roles in the project. I was having a bit of fun in the middle of it seeing the reaction and knowing it was a hit. also, the finer aspects of CTTM coming through, as I had been to a similar presentation and did not get the same experience.

Product name,scent and strength
Come Talk To Me Mix 2 neroli scented

Application dosage and locations
2x one on each arm. I spray the hair side, for maximum diffusion

Environment tested in.
close quarters meeting. an important meeting.

Self effects.
the need to talk to people about anything. I listen for subjects from the few who come in early, and use that to open on new ones coming in. I’m outgoing and friendly. during the meeting, I felt I knew what was being presented and that it was a complete solution. I felt like i was part of the solution, and proud to be there and understand it.

Effects to others
the room is semi-silent, until I hit a subject my coworkers like. and 5 minutes into exposure, the room is so loud you can’t hear. everyone is chatting with everyone else about similar topics of mine. I was near the front row, making sure the speaker was in range. the meeting lasted an hour or so, and when the speaker came out to give his shpeal, everyone quieted down and listened intently, and nodded with approval. they got excited about his proposals, and asked very important questions, especially those around me.
the speaker revealed some personal experiences and revealed a little more than I had expected him to do in such a large crowd. nevertheless, his personal interjections helped sell the ideas, and presented people with a view of his honesty I had not seen before.
there were a lot of hushed whispers of approval being spoken between my coworkers about this, where usually there are no comments at all, or snickers.
my coworkers all seemed to have a deeper understanding of the project in that meeting that the previous ones did not give them. I wonder why.

Duration of effects.
about an hour

Effects from mixing with other products.
acqua DiGio applied 2 hours beforehand.

Range
2-10 feet

Time exposure.
one hour.

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Product name,scent and strength
Come Talk To Me Mix 2 neroli scented

Application dosage and locations
2.5x. split between my arms. the bottle sputtered.

Environment tested in.
elevator. I left my phone in my car, and had to jogg back to get my phone, then back to the elevator
so… total of 9 min drydown and got into the elevator.

Self effects.
breathing heavy from running. just a head rush from the oxygen repletion.

Effects to others
business man gets in on first floor, nothing peculiar, definitely well dressed, groomed and not threatening. I on the other hand, am wearing jogging shorts, an untrimmed goatee, and a slight sheen of sweat from running. I am standing on the right 1/3 of the elevator when two women get on the second floor, one in her late 30s, and one in her early 20’s. the first 5 seconds, they both decided to stand right next to me, lopsiding the elevator. I ponder the safety factor of women choosing to stand next to an unkempt unshaven man versus a well trimmed guy in a suit. I watch the guy stand alone on his side until the 5th floor when the two women get out.

my usual observation of elevator dynamics is that everyone takes a corner, before going to the middle, equidistant from everyone else.

Duration of effects.
immediate to 5 seconds.

Effects from mixing with other products.
none mixed.

Range
3 feet.

Time exposure.
3 minutes.

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I have noticed that the times I dont wear CTTM2, I do not experience any deep conversations. I mean, when I wear CTTM, the convos start light, and progress, depending on the worries of the day, but then you bob back up for another light conversation, and then it runs deep again. a very good solution for long nights of talking. without a good entrance, or CTTM, the need to make those conversations rise to the surface is just not present. I think this would make a perfect mix for therapists, husbands and Dads with teenagers. I have had a little practice at just talking, and I find that out of habit now, without wearing anything, I can just talk to people, even strangers. I think this mix has changed a part of me for the better. it has made me more social.

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Product name,scent and strength
Come Talk To Me Mix 2 neroli scented

Application dosage and locations
2x to the back of the neck

Environment tested in.
Barber shop. I know silly and obvious place to get a hit.

Self effects.
felt okay to talk to anyone. I had a mission, though, and I think that has clouded my self-effect observations.

Effects to others
after work I went to the barber shop. applied 2 sprayes, and I allowed about 10 min drydown, then walked in for a haircut. I needed one bad. the barber on call did not speak much, only business like, sweeping up the stations, and taking names down. she takes my name, and I take a seat for a few minutes. not much convo going on, just the sound of the radio and the ring of the telephone. the other barbers are business-like, asking the customers their preferences on hair gel or shampooing.

I’m called and sit down in my chair by the same barber who took my name, and I give my haircutting instructions. once she started shearing hair, I posed the simple question, ‘how is it going?’

she immediately told me in a hushed tone that one of her coworkers was arrested today, and that it was a long day, and she can’t wait to leave. then we segue’d into her dad working multiple jobs and she didn’t know that he moonlit for over a year, and then we shifted onto the parade for a rodeo ,which will be blocking the road back to my house, and the different routes I could take to get home.

the topic that avalanched everyone else was michael jackson. about 15 min. in, all of the other barbers started chatting about what they liked and hated about the man, and if he was hot without the nosejob etc. I was a sport, and I told what I knew, just to keep the chatter going. it was hilarious. she paid extra attention to my hair, and even wished me good luck in the traffic on the way out. I turned a silent shop into a place of chattiness in just under 15 minutes. lol.

Duration of effects.
15 min.

Effects from mixing with other products.

just a morning spray of Acqua DiGio

Range
1-15 feet

Time exposure.
15 minutes.

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Product name,scent and strength
Come Talk To Me Mix 2 neroli scented

Application dosage and locations
2x cttm on arms, then rub arms to neck

Environment tested in.
breakroom with close friends

Self effects.
just felt like discussing anything. its lunchtime, let loose.

Effects to others

discussions started with basic funny light stuff. I came in during the light discussion so it was not affected by my mix. during lunch the discussions progressed to more serious concerning stuff. not deeply concerning, but just wonder concern. one coworker was wondering why he was invited on a campout by a churchfellow he didnt know.he was wondering if it was a setup, or simply because the churchfellow needed someone to be like a son to him. somehow the conversation turned into fishing and how to prepare fish, then to the cost of airplanes.
another coworker walking by the lunchroom immediately butts into the conversation with questions(in an inquisitive, not rude or mean way). I learned something new about him that I didnt know before, and that was that he was a pilot. I’ve worked with him for 5 years. he does not usually invite himself into conversations.

Duration of effects.
half hour

Effects from mixing with other products.
acqua DiGio sprayed on 4 hours earlier.

Range
2 feet to 8 feet

Time exposure.
half hour.

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Lots of testing there. Good stuff.
How would you compare CTTM2 with Instant Openness or Instant Honesty?

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that seems to be it for the moment, but I believe this mix is great for what it’s doing. I dont know if I would change much of it, if any at all. it still requires effort to start the conversations, and they naturally seem to go from light to heavy in sawtooth wave. I think its the progression of the Alphanols being burned off before the betanols, meh. whatever is happening, I hope I have helped you understand what CTTM does a little bit more. it is definitely non-sexual but very outgoing. I could see someone prolonging the light conversations with a few extra sprays of instant Openness, then ramp down to more serious conversations later.

I have not guaged the depth of the conversations with the number of sprays, but it feels like 4x is the max you should spray around you, and 2x seems to have just as much kick in a one-on-one. use this in heavy doses in parties and at church. Please.

also, mixing this with None seems to cancel out the none.. like, they’re on opposite sides of the spectrum. perhaps this is why I did not get anything with it a couple months ago. I was mixing up equal amounts Rone, None, and CTTM, and the CTTM just kills the effect. so… how is Ammo doing this? is it the steering pheros that are cancelling out? I get better hits using solo that with anything else.

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Instant openness is just… happy to talk, I’d say. Instant Honesty would be..“here’s what I think” the gradient between those two feels like how CTTM feels. where you just wanna start something, and then it gets deeper as you go. there has to be a little effort to start it, but then you dont have to do much else afterwards. I’ve been helping someone work through some tough issues with relationships and identity and so far, this ramp is the very therapeutic thing they need. I’ve also found my inner dialogue affected by this, and I’ve discovered new things about me too, just speaking to my inner voice. its a shame it took a few months to find out how to use this.

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great work centaur