I too had a huge stack of samples, so I gave most of my TE, Chikara and AE packs to my students. One of them told me his GF kept biting his neck after he applied TE. At the time he had no clue what pheromones were. I kept the SOE gels (hid them for emergency use).
do u reckon maybe chikara is a scam? i noticed alot of ppl on love-scent who are complimenting it, but on here it gets bad reviews. i have a bottle on its way in the post so i won’t know until i get it! i’ll update my results.
Scam, probably NOT as Love-Scent are a reputable company and all. Not sure how it could possibly be their no. 1 seller though. It must contain -mones (well 7 if that’s correct) but you get better and worse products in general and from my experience and those of a good few more I’d put it in the bottom third of products out there. Hope it works for you though. Good luck.
Matthew
Love Scent is a very reputable co. , I don’t believe they would ever knowingly sell a fraudulent product.
Some Pheromones just don’t work with a persons body chemistry, Or the effects are so subtle they are miniscule .
Hey Sigma,
You want to trade Chikara samples for Scent of Eros / The Edge samples? I have more Scent of Eros / The Edge than Chikara samples.
Not that Chikara worked for me but I just happen to purchase nol / none products so I don’t need the samples.
Yea I used Chikara for quite a while and it definitely causes agitating reactions. There is definitely something Androstenone-like in there I can tell among the 7 pheromones. I definitely got plenty of ‘respect’ and distance from people when I used a couple of sprays. At high doses it enhanced ‘lusty’ sex with one woman for sure so that is how I can tell it has something Androstenone-like in there.
Chikara is a prime example of why I dont like Love Scent products generally. They just put 7 pheromones together (incl. Beta, Alpha -Nol, Androsterone, and Androstenone) put a decent fragrance on it, give it a catchy name and image (Chikara is Japanese for ‘power’ I do believe). Just marketing America at its best
. Now what happens if you are one of those many who cannot wear anything Androstenone-like to the office? I would love to have got access to those 3 extra unknown molecules on their own and see what they do and at a decent price I might add but no. By contrast, here at Androtics, you can get access to new putative molecules on their own for 15 USD.
Also the idea of putting the Androstenone (or something similar) in there is like taking the easy way out IMHO. Of course you are gonna get some kind of ‘hits’ that way but what about the idea of better outcomes for people. People bought Chikara thinking it would be good for work and found that even combining with something light and happy like SOE caused agitation and extra quarrelling.
Visionary
Chikara is a pretty good name, that is, for a pheromone product. It means Dominance and Power in Japanese. Is this made by a Japanese company?
The Oregonian creator is married to a Japanese national.
I don’t believe Chikara is a scam. It merely didn’t work for me. No product works for everyone. As others have stated, individual persona, body chemistry and goals vary greatly. Some folks OD on Chikara as their natural pheromones combine with it. Others like me–a none deficient Asian --are underwhelmed and have to add 'none. However many claim to like Chiraka. It’s nice to have a lot of choices. You’ll eventually find something that works for your unique needs.
oh? you are of Asian decent too? I guess that makes two of us.
there’re at least 4 asians on this thread, if you can guess who they are! ![]()
I’ve had some small positive results from Chikara, and some small positive results from Alter Ego too. So there is something there, just not the “killer app” one would hope. I’m still testing Ammo. I’d really love to find a single “grab and go” product. Have used both the spray and gel packs, although all have been languishing as I’m busy testing Androtics stuff at the moment. I do kinda like the scent (in the “scented” version. There is an "unscented as well.) Used it a few days ago as “something to wear.”
I suspect like anything else it works for some, and for others not at all. The “Perception” product for example which is sorta in the same “all-in-one” class, didn’t do jack diddly for me. Others reported decent results. I still have about 50 packets of the Perception gel…
Have hopes for Ammo but only time will tell.
Rbt I agree with your assessment. It seems to add a little momentum to my game, but not better than my best colonges would do and colonge lasts longer.
“Killer App” came from Netscape didn’t it? I agree it would great to have a plug and play type of pheromone product that you know works.
-AW
I noticed the Perception gel packs are on clearance sale at love-scent. Am inclined to rather go with SOE gel packets myself. Chikara as I mentioned did very little for me and the more you guys mention negative - aggitating effects - of it the more I see this as a possible reaction I may have missed when I used the product - around 6-7 months ago.
Funnily enough I applied a smidge of SOE, The Edge and Chikara to three different pieces of paper (with a letter to remind me which was which in pencil) and asked my friends which “cologne” sample they liked best. Chikara was 1st or 2nd with all my friends and my one mate went nuts for the stuff; thought it was brilliant. Not an expert of colognes and smells myself - more into -mones for the effects… But yeah some people; granted guys, seem to like it. In terms of effectiveness as a -mone it’s way down with the also-rans in my humble opinion.
Good luck all,
Matt
I’ve tried Chikara out a few more times since the beginning of this thread and I’m actually getting good results. A lot of people really like the scent over and above any Androtics scents and people generally respond in a positive and quite affectionate way. I’ve worn as much as four sprays and have not noticed any irritability effects on me or others, whereas one or two of Ammunition can get me really tensed up.
I even alpha tested it when it was first being developed (the transparent computer generated label). I found that I got decent results with it as a stand alone, but I tend to like the more “complex” results I get from some of my custom mixes.
Apart from the 7 mystery pheromones jazz, I believe Chikara contains a hefty amount of .none, I can smell it, that is probably why alot of the users tend to OD while wearing it.
L-S have been in the pheromone business for a long time and I have been buying off them for years with no problem, I have never returned a product back, Chikara contains pheromones thats for sure, but probably is not so fancy as the makers want us to believe.
I have tried the product in bottle spray for about 2 weeks, I saw no difference, my friend also tried the product for awaile, he saw nothing in it.
They say its thier number one seller, well… chikara is a love scent exclusive product made or commissioned by them, doesnt it make sense from a marketing point of view that they would say its thier number 1 seller on thier web page? I think so…guyz dont believe everything you read.
I think that Chikara has a reasonably dominant androgen-like note that likely accounts for the irritation but also the magnetic aspect that one can notice on a good day/with the right mix. It’s somewhat balanced by a ‘wounded-bird’-like note (meaning it possibly is not a good candidate for wearing in a traditional office environment). I’d say overall Chikara can be tricky to get right but is a much more interesting product than, say, Perception.
perception doesnt work, thats why they give out a whole bunch of free sample gels with each order at l-s, also, thats why they literally give away perception gels for free over at L-S, the product isnt moving, i belive its a dud
I didn’t get jack diddle from Perception. Probably it needed a bit more none and/or rone to get moving. However the water based carrier got funky really fast. Not the kinda product you’d want around more than a month.
The gel packs seem to be dosed wrong. I can get it to work when I use enough of it, but it wasn’t nearly as good as the spray matrix. They also seem to go bad after a time.