I've used Chikara... now what? HEEELLPPP!

[EGuz92]

Hi all.

I have some decisions I want to make regarding pheromones, but really need some help from some more experienced users.

I’m pretty newbish when it comes to pheromones and stuff, but I have recently purchase a small bottle of Chikara and Scent of Eros. I’m a 20 year old guy (half Caucasian, half Hispanic) and honestly, I’ve never used pheromones before because, and I do not mean to gloat, I’ve already had my fair share of compliments and wild nights. Many girls have told me I’m attractive, and I’m very extroverted anyway. I was just curious to see if this pheromone stuff could give just the small edge I wanted.

I’ll admit now Chikara had my mind blown. Me and a buddy of mine have used and have seen pretty consistent hits. LOTS of head turning going on, and we got plenty of deer in the headlights moments from girls, and normally we have to spark the conversation. Nope. Every girl we talked to started it first, normally by some flirtatious touching too. Chikara has given me the most consistent hits where as Scent of Eros has been a complete dud for me, but I’ve been told it takes time to get the proper mechanics of it down. Still going to have to experiment with it.

Now for my question. I’m trying to blend something with my Chikara and POSSIBLY my SOE for a great clubbing/partying/drinking mix. But it’s crazy the amount of differing opinions on the web. For those who have had experience with Chikara, what works well for you? I’ve heard good things about A314, Alpha 7, Aqua Vitae, NPA, Max Attraction Gold, and a few others. I’m really looking for something sexual. Chikara has been a great social lubricator/ice breaker for me, but I’m looking for something to really get a girl interested after my personality has done the work. I can only buy one because I’m on a budget, so please recommend the best to mix with Chikara and one that isn’t crazy to OD on. Plus, any tips for trusting eBay sellers that sell this stuff? Everyone says not to trust it, but I bought my Chikara from eBay, and I’m telling you it work. Scent of Eros? Probably just got water, but whatever.

[leon333]

good choice bro! chikara is like SOE on steroid with abit of sexual vibe.i haven’t try SOE because im not a fan of oil products.slow diffusion plus effects are subtle.add some NPA,the edge or TUTH to your chikara if you want to be that fun,approachable but also with a sexual aura type of guy.go easy with those products,they’re very potent and remember chikara have none in it

[mobocaster]

If you are already highly social/extrovert, SOE probably won’t do a great deal for you as you don’t need that much help in the area. For reference, SOE is 80/20 Alphanol and Androsterone, the Alphanol gives good youthful/social steering to the Androsterone.

Of the pheros you list, most are pretty severe sexual or Status products, which are both easy to OD on at your age or project a far older than your years vibe that may not complement your basic nature and personality that well.

Luckily, clubs and drinking situations mean you can use fairly overt (ie higher Androstenone) signatures without too much difficulty and your personality will go a long way to moderating the potential negatives.

I’d suggest you stay away from Max Attraction Gold and Alpha 7 at your age as they are simply too high in Androstenone. I can use one drop effectively at my age but two needs careful moderation. It also contains unsteered Androsterone, which again can come-off like some girl’s funky uncle, not a potential partner. Again, OTOH, A7 is approx 80/20 Androstenone/Androsterone and the oil base doesn’t hold it back that much - a slight slowburn effect and then it kicks like a mule, which with no moderation can likely as not cause a recoil as easily as an attraction. MAG is a whopping dose of Androstenone with no steering or moderation whatsoever, which makes it so difficult to use at my age, never mind yours. I don’t know AV well enough to comment.

A314 is a different thing, it is an Androsterone-based status product that is steered for a mature, high-status, professional and trustworthy feel. There is only a trace amount of Androstenone in there and it is not a sexual on its own, although it does project some seriously attractive LTR-type qualities that may or may not appeal to a woman, depending on what she’s looking for in a man. The main drawback of A314 in club mixes around younger women is that it can appear too serious, standoffish, too LTR-minded, “too good” for them and the ever-present “dad” vibe, which when combined with a sexual can appear as “dad” with a hardon, which again is not that attractive to many of them! However, around around 30+ women, the A314 plus a sexual combo is a far more viable thing as their phero preference begins to change from sexy/social to sexual/status from about the mid-20s onwards but you can find the odd exception at any age - Personally I do very well with it.

All that said, A314 is usable in clubs around younger women in lower doses with something like Ammo, Summer Ammo etc but I’d avoid using it beside SOE as IME the Alphanol can wreck A314 very effectively - use less of each instead.

TUTH is another you should consider, Along with NPA, both are very overt sexuals. TUTH is mostly Androstenone and steered in a very sexual direction by undisclosed components, whilst NPA is Androstenone moderated with A1 and possibly other components. Your SOE will pair very well with these in a club environment and help make it more social. Other pheros you can steer these with effectively in a club environment are MX297 - for the party vibe supreme, IG - Again Androsterone but steered in much younger and more sociable way. and Instant Shine, which adds a happy/feelgood layer to just about any mix you care to use it with. TUTH contains approx 2.5mcg of Androstenone per spray and should be dosed with caution - some guys your age spray it under a light shirt/t-shirt to slow diffusion a bit but some time working with different doses will pay-off well. NPA at standard dilution is IIRC about 6/7mcg per spray, but better moderated by the A1 - You may still hve to mix it at a slightly lower proportion than the 1:5 (NPA/cologne) ratio suggested by the manufacturer - There are many threads on dosing/mixing NPA here if you search.

Hope that helps.

[EGuz92]

@mobocaster

If you are already highly social/extrovert, SOE probably won’t do a great deal for you as you don’t need that much help in the area. For reference, SOE is 80/20 Alphanol and Androsterone, the Alphanol gives good youthful/social steering to the Androsterone.

Of the pheros you list, most are pretty severe sexual or Status products, which are both easy to OD on at your age or project a far older than your years vibe that may not complement your basic nature and personality that well.

Luckily, clubs and drinking situations mean you can use fairly overt (ie higher Androstenone) signatures without too much difficulty and your personality will go a long way to moderating the potential negatives.

I’d suggest you stay away from Max Attraction Gold and Alpha 7 at your age as they are simply too high in Androstenone. I can use one drop effectively at my age but two needs careful moderation. It also contains unsteered Androsterone, which again can come-off like some girl’s funky uncle, not a potential partner. Again, OTOH, A7 is approx 80/20 Androstenone/Androsterone and the oil base doesn’t hold it back that much - a slight slowburn effect and then it kicks like a mule, which with no moderation can likely as not cause a recoil as easily as an attraction. MAG is a whopping dose of Androstenone with no steering or moderation whatsoever, which makes it so difficult to use at my age, never mind yours. I don’t know AV well enough to comment.

A314 is a different thing, it is an Androsterone-based status product that is steered for a mature, high-status, professional and trustworthy feel. There is only a trace amount of Androstenone in there and it is not a sexual on its own, although it does project some seriously attractive LTR-type qualities that may or may not appeal to a woman, depending on what she’s looking for in a man. The main drawback of A314 in club mixes around younger women is that it can appear too serious, standoffish, too LTR-minded, “too good” for them and the ever-present “dad” vibe, which when combined with a sexual can appear as “dad” with a hardon, which again is not that attractive to many of them! However, around around 30+ women, the A314 plus a sexual combo is a far more viable thing as their phero preference begins to change from sexy/social to sexual/status from about the mid-20s onwards but you can find the odd exception at any age - Personally I do very well with it.

All that said, A314 is usable in clubs around younger women in lower doses with something like Ammo, Summer Ammo etc but I’d avoid using it beside SOE as IME the Alphanol can wreck A314 very effectively - use less of each instead.

TUTH is another you should consider, Along with NPA, both are very overt sexuals. TUTH is mostly Androstenone and steered in a very sexual direction by undisclosed components, whilst NPA is Androstenone moderated with A1 and possibly other components. Your SOE will pair very well with these in a club environment and help make it more social. Other pheros you can steer these with effectively in a club environment are MX297 - for the party vibe supreme, IG - Again Androsterone but steered in much younger and more sociable way. and Instant Shine, which adds a happy/feelgood layer to just about any mix you care to use it with. TUTH contains approx 2.5mcg of Androstenone per spray and should be dosed with caution - some guys your age spray it under a light shirt/t-shirt to slow diffusion a bit but some time working with different doses will pay-off well. NPA at standard dilution is IIRC about 6/7mcg per spray, but better moderated by the A1 - You may still hve to mix it at a slightly lower proportion than the 1:5 (NPA/cologne) ratio suggested by the manufacturer - There are many threads on dosing/mixing NPA here if you search.

Hope that helps.

Very, very in depth answer. Thank you very much. I’m considering buying the newbie pack. Any thoughts on that? How long will the newbie pack last me? I don’t want to drop $100+ on something that I know nothing about or that I may only use two or three of the entire package.

[leon333]

how many sprays of chikara do you use? i think the new unscented version have higher none content.with 3 sprays i felt agitated and aggressive,so yea OD with 3 shots of C7

[EGuz92]

@leon333

how many sprays of chikara do you use? i think the new unscented version have higher none content.with 3 sprays i felt agitated and aggressive,so yea OD with 3 shots of C7

I used to use only 2. Then upped to 3, and noticed some crazy ghosting. So I think 1 and 1/2 to 2 sprays has been perfect for me.

[EGuz92]

@leon333

how many sprays of chikara do you use? i think the new unscented version have higher none content.with 3 sprays i felt agitated and aggressive,so yea OD with 3 shots of C7

I’m also buying about 5 to-go versions of AD’s products (MX297, A314, Ammo [Summer Edition], IS, and IO). I plan on posting a very, very in-depth review after they arrive.

[mobocaster]

@EGuz92

Very, very in depth answer. Thank you very much. I’m considering buying the newbie pack. Any thoughts on that? How long will the newbie pack last me? I don’t want to drop $100+ on something that I know nothing about or that I may only use two or three of the entire package.

You get 40 sprays in each togo and I’d be surprised if you don’t use the lot - It is a good selection of products that will serve you very well in a range of situations/combinations,

Also, do not underestimate the socials when it comes to attraction in younger women. They tend to respond to a broader more social/sexy signature that engages their feelings across the board, rather than a straight-up horny vibe from just sexuals - Mid 20s tends to be the point where they begin to change from one sig to another but you do get exceptions at any age.

[leon333]

mobo do you know which social molecule chikara use,anol or bnol?

[mobocaster]

I believe its mostly socials, - 7 component mones incl Alphanol and Betanol, but the Androstenone and Androsterone are in lowest proportion.

All but the youngest, most naturally none-heavy guys seem to need to augment it with a fairly punchy sexual.

[leon333]

C7 doesn’t work for some guys,but work like a charm for alot of guys including myself.it’s a low none social product but deadly.i exercise everyday,eat healthy,blood type o therefore i produce a good amount of natural none.anyway i went to my friend’s place last night for a few beer with 2 sprays and got heaps of IOIs from his wife.you guys know the drill keep staring at me,alot of smiles,puppy eyes,sexual looks and playing with her hair.i wouldn’t wear none products near her again,let’s just say me and my buddy are very close don’t wana ruin our friendship