*cliche new guy subject*

Hey everybody,

I found this site by googling “pherlure scam”, haha. Not because I don’t think it works, but because I like hearing the debates. I’ve been using pherlure for a few years now with mixed results. I had one really attractive girl tell me it smelled like “hot sexy men”. I was about to order some more, but I wanted to ask them a question about a order. I then discovered that they have NO WAY TO BE CONTACTED. I thought that was ridiculous and decided to try something new.

I’m 21 years old, 6’0", about 170 lbs, white, and type O+. I take a daily vitamin, get plenty of sleep, and drink water almost exclusively. I’m funny, but shy at first so girls often miss how awesome I am. I like the confidence Pherlure gives me, even though it’s probably a placebo. I’m a well behaved Mormon boy (even though I was really bad for like 5 years, lol) so I’m not looking for sex. I basically want to have that initial confidence to provide a smooth transition into my fun personality. I won’t be going to clubs, bars, or parties much, but when I do, I don’t drink. So, I’m kind of turning towards pheromones to provide that outgoing vibe.

I try to look as good as possible to compensate for me being shy. I go to the tanner, gel my hair up, wear nice clothes, and groom well. I’ve been playing the drums for like 9 years or something. I’ve been getting into lifting weights the last year or two, but am still pretty wimpy, haha. I was fat growing up which probably gave me my low self-esteem. Over the last several years I went from 205 to 155, then started lifting weights and got up to 170. I would probably be in better shape, but I sit in front of a computer all day doing tech support. I guess I’m a fun, preppy-looking geek, haha. I’m by no means a complete loser, though. I frequently go on dates, but I would like to date hotter girls in greater quantities. :cool:

A couple years ago I started studying up on pickup artist techniques. I used to be that nice wimpy “just friends” guy. I’ve since then learned how attraction works and had better results. I think I know how to attract women, but I don’t have the balls to execute. I’m hoping the right pheromone cologne will help with that.

I’m interested in dating fun, very attractive girls close to my age or younger. I’ll admit I’m shallow.

I’m hoping you guys could give me some recommendations. I’ve been reading for several hours now, but I’m still too overwhelmed to make a decision.

I hope that wasn’t too much information. :slight_smile:

Hello, Welcome to the forum :slight_smile:

I think Ammo would be the perfect place for you to start. Its a good all round product. It smells nice, It gives off a nice sexy vibe and attracts attention. Keep in mind that it wont be like the AXE commercial with girls dropping out of trees to tackle you. You will still have to make a effort but Ammo can have the self effect of boosting your confidence a little so this will help there to.

Instant Openness or Instant Honesty would also be beneficial for you. You mention your shy and its easier for shy people to talk with more open outgoing people normally so these will help those around you be more talkative and help you get past that shyness.

If you have any questions just ask. We look forward to your participation.

Tisha :wink:

Welcome man! Definatly take Tisha’s Advice on the AMMO and if you like the effects and want a little bit more of a custom signature, try mixing and matching IO / IH and AMMO together :slight_smile: You wont be dissapointed! I too came across Androtics Direct via the Pherlure scam. I am a super poster and in love with pheromones now. Dont say I didint warn you :wink:

Welcome. The product advice above is good.

Try to-go bottles if you’re concerned about budget. That way you can sample several products for the price of a regular size bottle. Once you know what you want you can spring for a bigger bottle.

+1 for Ammo..

I’m liking you already. I’m Liz, and welcome to the forum

Thanks everybody. I was kinda leaning towards Ammo, anyway. I was planning on ordering the To-Go bottles, too. Great minds think alike, or something… right? haha

What about Instant Shine? Not for me?

Oh yeah.. What about the smell of the products you suggested? Not the smell of the pheromone itself, but the fragrance associated with each spray?

I know the only way to describe a smell is through abstract words, lol, but do any of you know what type of essential oils, or whatever are being used?

Thanks.

if you need a confidence boost, instant shine would be beneficial for you; although, you should try the togo bottles of products you’re not sure about. instant openness and instant honesty both creates conversations, but you’ll have to initiate them. they’re both slightly different so read the stickies on the difference.

as for economical reasons, you should get a few to-go bottles to start out at, but they should last you about a month so make sure you don’t waste them by spraying random mixes in the beginning. take note of what you’re doing and use 1 spray at a time and 1 phero at at time until you fully see what each phero does for you!

other than that, have fun. feel free to ask questions in the forums

Since you mentioned that you may be on the shy side, Instant Shine or Instant Openness could very well work for you together with the Ammo. It might just give you that extra approachableness.

Instant Shine will give you (and others) that extra feel good happiness/confidence, might be just the thing you need if you’d like to impact yourself as well as others.

Instant Openness might also be good, but since you need something which gives you balls, Instant Shine all the way baby!

Good luck hunting! I know you’re tempted to buy all :smiley:

I have to agree with Tisha and the others on Ammo and other selections. It will not only boost your confidence and create a sexy vibe, but the Androstenone in Ammo can also give you just a bit of cockiness and make you a little more agressive. All good qualities in pursuing the PUA lifestyle.

Instant Openness is another great choice and can act as the ice breaker in getting conversations started.

Then to slam it home, Instant Shine will make you and those around you feel good.

So, now we have a PUA with a confident and slightly cocky attitude, giving off a sexy vibe, making people feel great and wanting to talk. Any questions? :slight_smile:

thanks again, guys… and girls. i’m probably going to be ordering to-go bottles of ammo, IS, and Instant Openness as soon as i get my $15 gift certificate. i’m afraid to try Instant Honesty, because it might make ME be more honest too.. which could mess up the whole hard-to-get act. :cool: <–favorite smiley, btw

what about the fragrances of the pheromones you recommended? i tried searching through previous threads, but opinions varied much. does anybody know what essential oils or whatever are being used in each?

Ammo comes with 10% fragrance and has been compared to “cool water” cologne. It smells very nice. When you first put it on it may seem strong but like other colognes but once it drie’s down and settles its fine.

IO, IH and Instant shine comes in neroli. This is a citrusy, orange scent and it can be covered easily and used with other colognes as a cover without a problem.

Tisha

Neroli. I think thats and EO. Its like a citrus 'ish scent.

Hey drummer!

I was reading your post and was amazed how related your story is to mine!
The quest to change, from working out to increasing confidence it reads almost exactly like mine!

I too was shy aproaching women at first, but after a coupe years of studying good material, i believe i managed to overcome most of that.
I do not intend to rely soley on pheros for my openings, but i want to use them to smoothen the initial meeting/impression.

Best of luck!

That is the right attitude and strategy. Reps to you for saying it.

BTW, I hope you are are at least considering Instant Openness for the product in which to smoothen out initial meetings. Instant Shine would also be another great choice.

Pheromones will not turn anybody into someone they aren’t, and they cannot change a persons attitude, will or personna. However, they can help to open or amplify qualities that you already possess, and can slightly alter other peoples perceptions of you.

Example: If you are a complete introvert, extremely shy and sit in a corner by yourself, it does not matter what you wear, nobody is going to come running over to talk to you, tell you how attractive you are, or how much they want you. But, if you are at least a little outgoing, but maybe just a bit bit shy when first meeting someone, pheromones can help to overcome an initial shyness or awkwardness and get the ball rolling.

Hello and welcome to the forum.

From what I’ve read it sounds as if you’ve got a handle on things already and so I await your posting about your tests.

To welcome you properly I am sending out the GC tonight. I stopped by the very first night you posted, but I wanted to wait and let some of our resident experts stop by and assist you with any questions. They’ve done a great job.

Haha, that’s awesome. I was getting so anxious, but now I’m glad I waited. Thanks SteveO