creating a new impression on close girl friends

[mugetsu]

Hey guys!

My name is mugetsu and I’m currently a college student in the east coast. I recently turned 20 and have started to ponder on my abilities to attract girls. I find that I can make girls feel comfortable and happy around me with relative ease. But I can never make them see me as a potential boyfriend. I guess you can say that I can achieve what instant openness provides to a degree.

I’ve had ambiguous relationships with girls in the past, but none that were truly relationships or really crossed too much physical boundaries. For once I would like a clear relationship with a girl so I decided to take some actions to make some changes. I tried various things, from different appearances to different behaviors. But of course, its very difficult to change yourself physically and mentally. Then I remembered reading somewhere that pheromones are part of what attracts girls. So after some googling and landing in some suspicious looking sites promoting various pheromone enhancer, I finally found a forum with an actual active community on the topic.

So today I basically went through all the noob articles got the gist of how things work here. I would really like to try the products but I’m a bit unsure on what I need and what would work for me.

I see that some of the products are for night time outings at bar and clubs. I’m not old enough for clubs and really just not a partying person in that sense. Also I’m east asian and thus do not have as much hair as western guys that help hold in the -none. Ideally I’m looking for a product that would tip the scales in my favor and let girls I’m close with see me as someone they would like to date, not as a close friend. Of course it would be a plus if the product also worked for initial attraction so that at social gatherings girls would be more prone to approach me.

I went through all the sprays reviews and am currently considering the following:
-IJ
-IS
-Ammo
-TUTH
-IG

I feel like I don’t need IO since my personality seems to work well in that aspect. IJ and IS both have elements of being confident, though IJ seems to take a little different approach. I would say that I act the opposite of a jerk so I’m not sure if this drastic change would be good or not. IS would complement my current personality but doesn’t seem like it would achieve the end result in the same manner as IJ. I’m not too sure about ammo, as it seems more like a clubbing spray, something I don’t exactly do. Now as for TUTH, sure I would like to arouse girls but I feel that should be reserved for later stages.

So in summary I guess I’m looking for something I can spray in everyday situations, since I would be dealing with girls more on a day to day basis than a one night in a club event. Right now IJ and IS are what’s on my mind, but I really have no idea :X

I’m sorry for the long ramble but I hope to learn a lot from you guys! I’m excited to get started!

Sincerely,

mugetsu

EDIT:

I’m primarily into other asian girls and I found on some other threads that I should not be applying mones in the same approach. People are recommending IS, A314, IG and IH. Is this what I should be doing? If possible I would like to start with just one spray first, what should that be?

[pinkconfetti]

Hi mugetsu, welcome to the forum =) It’s great that you have read through the posts and already selected a few pheromones to try! Perhaps you can tell us a little more about the type of girls you wish to attract? We all have our own personalities and different personalities look for different things in their partner… and vice versa. A “type A” kind of girl will want different things in their guy than a “type b.”

IJ, IS, Ammo, TUTH are Instants. They have all been tested and proven to show results.

You may want to consider A314 if you are looking for an Asian girl. I’m from SE Asia myself (female) and i think culturally, we look for different things. Sex is generally not the main draw for a long term relationship. Rather I see a lot of my friends being attracted to an alpha male who’s mature and respected.

However, as an expert (Jack) has pointed out “Congruency is essential when it comes to pheromones” The pheromones can only aid us and not change our characters completely. So be sure that what you pick will enhance your personality and not clash with it =)

Hope you have fun here!

[PheroJack]

@mugetsu

Hey guys!

My name is mugetsu and I’m currently a college student in the east coast. I recently turned 20 and have started to ponder on my abilities to attract girls. I find that I can make girls feel comfortable and happy around me with relative ease. But I can never make them see me as a potential boyfriend. I guess you can say that I can achieve what instant openness provides to a degree.

Welcome to Pherotalk my friend!
I see that you are already using mones terminology which is GREAT
I can tell you from extensive personal research that girls will put you in the friends-zone for actual reasons from your part not theirs. You succeeded to escalate it with them till the comfort stage but didn’t go past that. Lack of touch (what we call kino here) and lack of progression is what caused that. Escalation (kino & verbally) is really important for women or they won’t see you as a potential sexual partner.

I’ve had ambiguous relationships with girls in the past, but none that were truly relationships or really crossed too much physical boundaries. For once I would like a clear relationship with a girl so I decided to take some actions to make some changes. I tried various things, from different appearances to different behaviors. But of course, its very difficult to change yourself physically and mentally.

Yet again, same reasons on why you didn’t cross too much physical boundaries could be explained above.Btw, you can change yourself physically AND mentally very easily. Your mind is the only limit to what you can achieve and guess what? YOUR MIND IS UNLIMITED .

Then I remembered reading somewhere that pheromones are part of what attracts girls. So after some googling and landing in some suspicious looking sites promoting various pheromone enhancer, I finally found a forum with an actual active community on the topic.

Pheromones aren’t just a part of attracting girls even though it plays an important role in it. Pheromones could also help you in many areas on your life such as expanding your social circle and holding a better position at work! YES they are that powerful sometimes.

So today I basically went through all the noob articles got the gist of how things work here. I would really like to try the products but I’m a bit unsure on what I need and what would work for me.

I see that some of the products are for night time outings at bar and clubs. I’m not old enough for clubs and really just not a partying person in that sense. Also I’m east asian and thus do not have as much hair as western guys that help hold in the -none. Ideally I’m looking for a product that would tip the scales in my favor and let girls I’m close with see me as someone they would like to date, not as a close friend. Of course it would be a plus if the product also worked for initial attraction so that at social gatherings girls would be more prone to approach me.

I went through all the sprays reviews and am currently considering the following:
-IJ
-IS
-Ammo
-TUTH
-IG

To create attraction with NEW girls I would highly suggest Ammo. Ammo is a very sexy (not sexual like TUTH) product that will just light that attraction spark right away for you, however you still need to work your “game” to go further in the interaction.

I would HIGHLY suggest you look into ISHINE too. This product simply ROCKS. At high dosage (talking about 6 sprays of the standard strength one) this product makes you truly shine happiness around you and people will notice that. Really underestimated product but simply amazing.

IG would be better suitable if you want to get more respect from girls AND guys as well. Ammo won’t do good sometimes with guys. IG is a great daytime product too. It is more of a cool guy product.

However, if you want to go further with the close girls you are with, I would say straight up TUTH! You would still have to escalate things yourself though.

I feel like I don’t need IO since my personality seems to work well in that aspect. IJ and IS both have elements of being confident, though IJ seems to take a little different approach. I would say that I act the opposite of a jerk so I’m not sure if this drastic change would be good or not.

leave IJ aside for now..

IS would complement my current personality but doesn’t seem like it would achieve the end result in the same manner as IJ.

TRUST ME on that one… YOU will looooooooooooooooooove ISHINE If I had to pick one product out of everything I have, it would be ISHINE. Yes that’s how good it works!

I’m not too sure about ammo, as it seems more like a clubbing spray, something I don’t exactly do.

If you want to create that attraction when you meet new girls, Ammo is your answer.

Now as for TUTH, sure I would like to arouse girls but I feel that should be reserved for later stages.

Just like I said only for girls you know and girls that you are ready to escalate further with.

So in summary I guess I’m looking for something I can spray in everyday situations, since I would be dealing with girls more on a day to day basis than a one night in a club event. Right now IJ and IS are what’s on my mind, but I really have no idea :X

IG, Ammo and ISHINE for sure is what you are supposed to be looking into.

I’m sorry for the long ramble but I hope to learn a lot from you guys! I’m excited to get started!

Sincerely,

mugetsu

EDIT:

I’m primarily into other asian girls and I found on some other threads that I should not be applying mones in the same approach. People are recommending IS, A314, IG and IH. Is this what I should be doing? If possible I would like to start with just one spray first, what should that be?

For asian girls, I would say you are better off with IG + IS + IH. Sometimes they don’t act very well against Ammo, TUTH and IJ.

Tell us what you picked and i’m waiting for your journal

[mugetsu]

hi pinkconfetti!

thanks for the help! As for the type of girls I’d like to attract I would say someone whose personality complements mine. Someone cute who isn’t completely independent and would depend on me in certain situations. so I guess the non-alpha female types. I really don’t know how else to specify cause I’m not even that sure Usually, if they are cute and are fun to be with, thats all that matters.

But what would work for girls who might’ve friend zoned me? Would being cool, mature and confident with IG work? Or being the alpha male with A314. Or being the outgoing and vibrant that IS advertises? Right now I’m tempted to go with IG, but its out of stock

[mugetsu]

hi PheroJack! sorry for the double post, it seems like I posted before seeing your reply.
I think I will do as you suggested and go with IS. Although I would like to try out IG too, too bad its out of stock…

I will start out with that and then escalate from there.

you’re right about the kino though, i guess it’s a confidence issue. IS should hopefully help a bit with that. As for dealing with current friends who are asian, wouldn’t TUTH work not as well? Would IS be able to turn their heads?

[PheroJack]

@mugetsu

hi PheroJack! sorry for the double post, it seems like I posted before seeing your reply.
I think I will do as you suggested and go with IS. Although I would like to try out IG too, too bad its out of stock…

I will start out with that and then escalate from there.

you’re right about the kino though, i guess it’s a confidence issue. IS should hopefully help a bit with that. As for dealing with current friends who are asian, wouldn’t TUTH work not as well? Would IS be able to turn their heads?

Honestly dude, it’s way easier to get along with new chicks than is it to fix what you already messed up with the ones you know.. take this from personal experience and a general knowledge known about getting along with women.

Kino is NOT a confidence issue btw… it’s actually a matter of practice… ever wondered why people call it “GAME”? because I discovered it’s actually just that: doing and saying the right thing in the right moment. That’s it and that’s all. Of course a confidence is a big part of this, but certain things must be practiced.

As for escalatin with your friend-zoned asian girls, I would say… MOVE ON. I know it’s not what you exactly wanted to hear but trust me on that, you are better off meeting new women

wish you the best luck man

[Kelsey]

Welcome to pherotalk Mugetsu!

Pherojack has provided you with some great ideas and insight. Fortunately for you we have quite a few persons who have come to us with this situation and quite a few experts to assist them.

You are still young and producing a good amount of pheromones naturally so I will be careful with products like IJ and tuth with a great amount of none in them.

I suggest you ask around , the forum to see what all the ideas and advise the men have to say before jumping ahead. You will also find some interesting threads that might give you ideas.

Keep us updated.

Your gc was issued!

[pinkconfetti]

@mugetsu

hi pinkconfetti!
But what would work for girls who might’ve friend zoned me? Would being cool, mature and confident with IG work? Or being the alpha male with A314. Or being the outgoing and vibrant that IS advertises? Right now I’m tempted to go with IG, but its out of stock

i think Jack is in a better position to give you specific advice =) There are so many choices and perhaps you may need to work through them one at a time. The To-Gos are a great way to try the various products. I also read alot of posts where people use more than one product at the same time, so perhaps you can also consider using a combination.

Please do note that it’s always important to find the sweet spot for each product before using a combination =)

[mugetsu]

just got my IS today, came with a free IH. Thanks!

[SettledView]

hey there

I am curious to see what your results are like. You are 20 and I just turned 30. That’s one reason I’m subscribing to your thread here - you posted on my 30th birthday, June 20! ha ha ha

The other is I too am new and I am about to order Ammo World edition and probably IS but haven’t decided what else yet.

One thing I would suggest is that whenever you see a girl you find cute in a friendly setting, chat her up within three seconds before your brain gets in the way. You never know what the girls’ type is :-).

Good luck and post your feedback!

[mugetsu]

haha happy belated!
i only tried IS yesterday and could feel the rush it gave me. I did feel some kind of effect on myself the moment i put it on. But I was sleep deprived so it gave me a little headache as well. It was also really humid yesterday and the IS was gone so fast. But while it was effective, no one around me has made any note as of yet. An asian girl i was with didn’t react differently as usual, but this is all on one spray on a humid day. I haven’t had a chance to be much social today so I didn’t spray lol. So as of yet I can’t really say anything for IS, but I can tell that it does something.