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Hi all,

I have recently ordered some pheromones and decided to share some of my findings and perhaps get a second opinion on what I experienced.

A little background:
I am 31, male, 6ft, pale skin and fair-hair i.e. Caucasian. Since my teens I was very interested in girls, but was way too shy and didn’t know how to talk to them. Until about a year ago I had very few relationships, in fact only one real girlfriend. Everything changed after I read a very good book on relationships, women, seduction etc. - a kind of PUA book I suppose. That book finally explained to me what I was doing wrong and what I need to work on in order to get girls interested in me.

So a few months ago I started going to gym (I was very skinny all my life), started talking to random girls to build up my confidence, started actually sharing my feelings with my sister and a few girls that I trust (and got some valuable insights from them).

I would say I am normally a very kind person, emphatic, good listener. Intellectual type, sharp mind.

For some reason older women love me (one went as far as saying openly she would marry me if she could). Sadly, I had trouble attracting younger girls which I very much prefer. That, coupled with the fact that I think about sex a lot, leads me to assumption that probably my androstenone is still very high.

My first pheromone product was Chikara that I bought a few years back. At first I thought it did nothing (probably because I was using only 1-spray doses), but I later found that it does make women a bit more open and appreciative. It is a “smooth”, pleasant vibe, with maybe just a hint of sexuality. Certainly no dramatic results, but then again, I never had a negative experience using it.

A few weeks back I ordered A314, Instant Shine x2 strength and MX353 (all to-go sprays). This my the first time with Androtics products and the results were significant and/or interesting enough that I decided to share them.

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A314

I kind of expected it to work the way it did, but it was still a surprisingly strong influence.

One spray (ver. B) is enough to make sure no shit comes my way at work and that my jokes are received well. Much of the time I don’t even get any retaliation from the target of my joke. It makes me more confident at the meetings, gets me respect from males and friendly attention from females.

At two sprays, I have presence. My opinion is listened to and considered carefully. I feel confident even around my office director who has a very strong, dominant personality. I am in control. It feels like I am wearing a breastplate - very composed, very confident. My head almost automatically goes up high, like I was above everybody else.

I never tried three sprays, although I might at some point. I am not naturally an intimidating person at all, and I never got any unwanted side effects.

I think the A314 effects may be amplified by a work-out. I went to the gym during my work hours a few times, wearing just one spray of A314 that I applied in the morning. I did not shower after the workout (I don’t sweat that much anyway), I just changed into my clean clothes and went straight back to the office. The respect was through the roof. It was almost hilarious.
I read that some pheromones metabolise to some other when combined with sweat, maybe that was it?

Interesting note: the effects definitely propagate with air. People sitting close to me (or downwind from me if there’s a fan) seem to get more confident after a while. I can see their body language change, they take up space like alpha males, even women. Evidently A314 at work. This can be a bit rubbish if the guy downwind from you is an idiot and he starts to voice his opinion loudly at the meeting, wasting everybody’s time…

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Instant Shine

I haven’t actually tried it on its own, but it does not seem to work for me as strongly as some other people describe. It certainly can’t turn around my mood when I’m tired and sleep-deprived.

On the other hand, it does seem to make people around me feel better.

Also, it seems to moderate effects of A314 to some degree when sprayed immediately over A314. After two sprays A314 plus one spray ISx2 I did not quite feel the same “breastplate effect” as when wearing A314 on its own.

Update: Having read back my own stories, I decided that Instant Shine is actually a very powerful influence. I wouldn’t have believed that it was me who did all this stuff, making friends, meeting pretty girls all around, and generally having a great time. Normally, I can have a good time when it’s a party at a friends house where I know pretty much everybody and all the females are just friends. But outside my “comfort zone” - just a single guy walking into a bar - no way!

A314 alone wouldn’t have done that because on its own it makes you slightly “distant”, it’s not a particularly social mix in my experience.

Instant Shine does take the right environment to work best though - it seems it’s not quite as potent when you’re alone with somebody. But when there are many people around, it easily starts this “feedback loop” where you see everyone’s reactions being positive, which in turn makes you more confident and playful, and amplifies the fun. It can feel like being slightly high sometimes - things happen that seem almost unreal and everything works out unexpectedly well.

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MX353

Now, this is where things get interesting. I tried it three times, once on its own and twice in combination with A314 and IShine.

I will post the actual stories shortly, but so far, I’ve had: one mildly attracted very talkative reaction, one initial attraction turning into a “three headed bitch from hell” and some general good time at a party / in a bar with great responses from people that I met.

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Ok, so story number one:

There is this bar that does jazz jam sessions every Monday. I went there a few times before, but with no great results (other than the jazz, which was fantastic).

This was my first time using Androtics products. I thought a combination of A314 and IShine would be a good place to start so I put on one spray of A314 to the throat, I rubbed another spray of A314 onto my wrists and sides of the neck, and finished it with one spray of IShine x2, also to the wrists / sides of the neck.

The self-effects that I observed were pretty strong, lots of confidence, great self-esteem, head up high. Most of the girls I saw, I felt were actually below me (ie. not good enough for me!). This was a bit weird, I don’t normally look down upon girls like that.

So at the bar, I listened to the band for a while, then went to grab a drink. I spoke for a while with the barman (who was unusually friendly), then a pretty attractive girl around 30yo came in and asked something. The barman answered and I threw in another piece of information and chatted with her for a bit - which felt natural, and I wouldn’t normally join in on other people’s conversations. Then me and this girl (let’s call her D) went together to listen to the band.

During the performance, D went on her phone a few times, texting someone. I normally find it hard to say anything negative to a girl I like - and I know this is something I need to practise, so I said to her something to the effect of: C’mon it’s a great concert, why are you on your phone all the time? To my surprise, her reaction was at first very apologetic, and then she laughed “Hahah, I got told off, that’s ace!”. When the band went on a brake, we went outside and sat in the beer garden, had some really good conversation.

Then we got another drink, went to the beer garden, but it was full this time so we joined the table with some student girls. Some of them were giving me IOIs, and we all chatted together for a while. One of them students asked what I do, I said, I’m in the audiophile business. She tried to make a joke “Oh what’s audiophile, is it like necrophile?” Instead of getting defensive as I would normally do I simply brushed it off, and put her down for not knowing what the word means. She then spoke about herself being a violin player and whatnot, and gave me her card - I am pretty sure she wanted me to have her number. She was attractive but I did not like that she was swearing a lot and did not seem like a classy girl at all, so I looked at the card and gave it back to her.

Then the students left, we went back to the conversation with D, she told me of some of her relationship troubles, I gave her some advice and support for which she was really grateful, and we generally made good friends all in a span of maybe two hours. I was initially hoping to pick her up, but seeing as she was sort of struggling to get over her last relationship I did not push her. It was still a great night and we agreed we would see each other the next week, on the next jam session.

All in all, I considered this a definite proof that the pheromones work - and I like it! :smiley:

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Second story is a short one, but I thought it was interesting…

I was at work and tired from lack of sleep, so I put on one spray of A314 just so people would leave me alone.

Then I went to a meeting, that office had no A/C and it was a hot day, so the windows were open and there was a fan on the parapet. I sat close to the fan, and next to me, downwind from the fan, sat one of my colleagues - an older guy, let’s call him J. Now I have nothing against old people, some are truly brilliant minds and a joy to be around. But this is not one of them. He is short, fat, slow, not very bright, and it takes him forever to formulate a simple sentence, so he rarely speaks at meetings.

This time, as the meeting progressed, I noticed J’s body language change, he took up more space, became more confident, and eventually started speaking his opinion. Which was rubbish, because A314 did not make him any more intelligent, but he spoke anyway.

What was really interesting though is when I noticed that the way I was leaning back on my chair the wind from the fan would go straight onto J. So I leaned forward to drink some coffee and remained in a forward position, pretending to be listening intently. In a matter of seconds, J also leaned forward, so that he was back in my pheromone stream. After a minute or two I leaned back on my chair and again within seconds, J also leaned back, staying in my pheros.

I was getting pretty pissed off at this point because I had no way to shake him off my pheros and his dubious contributions were beginning to disrupt the meeting, so I went to the toilet. After I had come back, I made sure I was changing my position often and after a while J gave up on mimicking my movements and the meeting ran more or less ok after that.

It was interesting to see how strongly people react to A314. This also led me to suppose that A314 may be primarily a self-effect pheromone and other people’s reactions merely reflect the change in the wearer himself.

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Story number three, this time with MX353 as the main actor.

I invited a friend over, I know she finds me attractive, she has a bf but she likes to flirt with me and on one occasion things got almost out of hand between us (she was holding me and I was kissing her neck).

So I thought, let’s see what’s what, and I put on three sprays of MX353 - two to the neck and one spread on my wrists.

At first we just had a nice conversation over a cup of coffee, then we went to my listening studio (I am an ardent audiophile, I have a dedicated room for my audio gear). I put my arm around her which she doesn’t mind, but this is normal between us and she is the cuddly sort of girl. We chatted for a while and I asked if she would rub my back because it’s hurting from a workout. She said ok, and she did give me a short rub, but again this is not really something unusual because we gave each other friendly back rubs in the past. I asked if she wanted me to return the favour, but she said No I’m fine, thanks.

Then I went to make some tea for us and she followed me to the kitchen. She kept very close all the time. As the evening progressed, I made another attempt for some physical contact, but was met with the same friendly refusal. She got more and more talkative instead, and ended up staying till very late. But all the time she was very careful not to allow me too close, perhaps more so than usual as she’s normally cool with some cuddling.

It seems all MX353 did was make her talk and talk and talk. She did feel good, but there was no sexual tension at all, she kept a very close guard.

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Story no. 4

Me and some work colleagues were on a short work-related trip and after some training sessions during the day and a nice supper with wine, we all decided to go to the hotel club (it was a very classy, award-winning 4-star hotel). I was wearing two sprays of A314 applied early in the morning, plus one spray A314 that I applied in the afternoon. In the evening (before the supper), I added one spray of MX353, and one spray of IShine x2.

The dance floor was empty when we came, there were about 12 of us. Most of us were 30-50, the DJ noticed the age group and played more “golden classics” - which I actually didn’t mind as I’m not a club-goer and not into modern music much. Anyway, it was probably the first time I actually had a really good time in a club. I danced a lot, and enjoyed it. On some songs pairs would form, so I danced with most of the women in our group, and it went pretty good - much to my surprise because I thought I sucked at dancing in pairs. I like how they responded to my lead and actually made every effort to guess my moves and to dance well.

Most of our team left eventually, but a few young girls came and danced separately. They were giving me some looks, and I kind of tried dancing with them, but I didn’t really know how to approach them (I have next to no clubbing experience, and the dance floor was mostly empty, so any move I made was very obvious). The young girls left eventually, at which point I decided to call it a night and went to bed.

I was slightly disappointed about missing the opportunity with them young gals, but all in all, I had a great time, and as a bonus I grew a lot of confidence about my dancing skills.

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Another story, I went to this “speed-dating” thing.

I was wearing one spray A314 and one spray of IShine x2. I was sleep-deprived though and tired from working out in the gym.

At the beginning things were going pretty well, I was smiling, chatting, being cool. But as the evening wore on, I became tired to the point of struggling to speak coherently.

When the results came back, it turned out I was “chosen” by five ladies (out of some eighteen), two of which were reciprocal choices, meaning we got each others’ phone numbers.

I went to speed dating parties twice before that. The first time I was just testing the ground and the women were mostly too old for me, I got chosen by two ladies, no reciprocal choices. The second time, I made sure to prepare well, put on some nice clothes, got some pointers from a lady friend - and got chosen six times, two reciprocal.

So five “choices” do not seem like a lot, considering I was wearing pheromones - but taking into account the shape I was in, it was still a pretty good score.

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Story #6, the same bar as in story #1, same pheros, except this time I added MX353.

I knew there was going to be lots of people this time because the bar was closing, this was to be the last jam session and the drinks were all going to be 5zł (roughly $1.60 for a drink!).

So I put on two sprays of A314 to the neck, one spray of MX353 to the neck, and one spray of IShine x2 distributed to the wrists and sides of the neck.

I got in and went straight to the concert floor, which was (predictably) pretty full. I listened for some time, and then went to the other room to get a drink. There was a long queue, and as I was waiting in the line, checking out girls, two guys joined the queue and asked me in English (this is Warsaw, remember) how does one get to join the jam session. They turned out to be tourists from Norway, I gave them some advice what to do, then we chatted for a while.

Then all of a sudden a tipsy guy started to greet loudly and cordially two pretty girls in front of us (the guy later turned out to be the event manager at this bar and one of the girls was his student). As he was greeting them girls, he turned around to me and said "Meet M, meet I" - he randomly introduced the two pretties to me. I was as surprised as they were, so I laughed and said “Hey, pleased to meet you, I’m Quiver”. Then I thought it was very funny the way they got randomly introduced to me, why not introduce them to my Norwegian friends in turn, so I did. The girls were like “Ok, what is going on”, but they smiled and introduced themselves anyway, before taking their drinks and walking out.

Me and the Nords took our drinks and went to the concert room and listened for some time, but it was very hot, everyone around was sweating a lot, and I did not see any great pheromone effects. Well, one girl smiled widely back at me when I smiled at her, but she was with somebody else. So I said It’s hot as hell here, let’s go to outside to the beer garden - they said sure and we went.

The beer garden was packed, but I noticed the two pretties we met earlier (M and “I”) were sitting alone, so I went up to them and asked if it’s ok to join them. They said sure. I initially thought they were students, but they turned out to be 18yo high-school girls. M was the more attractive of the two (a solid 9.5), but “I” was much more interesting to talk to, and we ended up having two separate conversations: M with the Norwegians, and “I” with me. She was really cool and I thought it was a great time to practise “negating” girls, so I put her down some (“You know cars? Yeah right.”, “Can you tell which of your hands is left?”). She seemed to enjoy this mental wrestle and made some pretty good come backs at me. I thought it was great fun, but then the girls went to the toilet.

They were taking a long time, but two other young girls came to our table in the meantime, asking if they can sit with us, to which we naturally did not object. I introduced them to the Norwegians and had some interesting conversation with them and a good laugh.

I excused them, went to the toilet and then queued up for another drink. I didn’t see M or I anywhere, but the violin player from two weeks back (Story 1) saw me and came to me “I remember you, you’re that necrophile guy, right?” - she tried the same joke again, but in a nice way and I was in a good mood so I went with it and laughed. I was hoping to see D from Story 1 as well, but she wasn’t there.

When I came back to the beer garden, I saw M and “I”, so I started talking to “I” again, but here is the weird part: she became increasingly aggressive in our conversation. At one point I made a motion to touch her head to highlight something I said and she interrupted angrily (she said not to touch her head, hand or arm would be acceptable but not the head). I put her down for being “Miss Untouchable”, but it just went downhill from there, she was taking every single thing the wrong way. I eventually went to the toilet, just to interrupt her stream of attacks.

I put another spray of IShine while in the toilet, but it didn’t help. When I came back, she was talking to another guy, so I talked with M instead. Although M did seem attracted to me, we did not have much in common, and after a long while of limping conversation with her, I decided to call it a night. As I was leaving, I said to “I” that I’ve got to, and asked if she wanted to finish our conversation later sometime, and she replied with a curt “No”. So I took a bus home and that was it.

I thought it was a good night out overall, I had really good time, met lots of people, got a lot of smiles, respect and interest. Even the conversation with “I” was great, only too bad she turned into this aggressive bitch later in the evening. My game may have been off, and I did drink quite a lot of alcohol, but I don’t think it was that bad (I’m this really kind, good-natured guy, remember). I read at least one other MX353 user reporting a similar effect, so maybe it was actually MX353 that was to blame.

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I would be more convinced if someone else confirmed this… Don’t feel like reading it without any other reply.

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Hey man, just stopping by to say I like your detailed reports! Keep it up.

About this ‘I’ gril - you probably triggered some of her insecurities by negging her one too many times. I think she was attracted initially, but after a while she just felt like you were playing with her… Which ofcourse you were :wink: Maybe the mones did help with tipping her over the edge. A314 + MX353 scream ‘high status and attractive’ - your confident display backed that up. Too much cocky/funny moves made you look out of reach for her. ‘Im attractive and I know it’ - everybody hates those guys right?

It has happened to me before as well. After some very nice conversation a girl turned into a raging b***h from hell for no apparent reason… I was playing with P75 and P83 at the time, and I know P83 is in MX353 and A314… Something to think about…

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Thanks man, it has occurred to me that I may have overdone the negging bit. Although she was the “bad” sort of girl and did not seem intimidated at all. Then again, she was very young, and girls that age rarely have real confidence, more likely she was just putting up a good front… So it may have been the pheros, but it well may have been me, as you suggest.

In any case, what other way to learn is there, other than to cross the line a few times, right? :wink:

Edit: I was wondering about two things: firstly whether the mixed reactions from MX353 have something to do with the menstrual cycle, and secondly whether the angry reactions are perhaps provoked by repressed sexual tension with no immediate means of releasing…?

Also, I am intending to do some tests on the connection between the initial reaction to the smell of MX353, and the eventual outcome. Could it be that girls who like the smell best are also the most “susceptible”? The girls I tested it on (Story #3) said it was “Ok”, when I asked her whether she likes the smell.

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I was suggesting the second option in my previous comment, but yes there’s a real possibility that her cycle played a role as well, as there is 5 mcg eNone per spray in MX353. Reactions to eNone vary drastically over the menstrual cycle in my experience.

Looking forward to your next tests. For me this is a reminder that I really should play more with MX353, my to-go is still almost full. I read on the boards that it’s a real heavy hitter - I haven’t had the opporunity to test it in the right environments yet. Think I’m gonna test it around my fallout girl next time she’s ovulating. Should be fun.

Oh, and personally I really dislike the scent of MX353, but I still think the mones are doing their job on the subconcious level.

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Story #7 party at a friend’s house, A314+IS

A student friend of mine invited her friends, Italian student couple, to Poland. She wanted the Italians to meet her Polish friends, hence the party.

I went with just one spray of A314 as it was just a friendly party, I didn’t want to be too intimidating; and a single spray of IShine x2.

First, the main actors: “Z” was the host and a good friend of mine who likes me and appreciates me a lot, she was extremely happy to hear I was coming. “M” from the Story#3 was there as well, she actually gave me a lift to the party. And there was a common friend, “B”, who is this sweet, voluptuous beauty, but she has this dick of a bf who is almost universally hated.

The party started off slowly with people mostly sitting at tables and eating / drinking, the Italians turned to be a cool pair and the Italian girl, let’s call her “E” spoke good English and was fun to joke around with.

What I noticed right from the start, was that “B” was obviously seeking my proximity, so to speak. At first, she was sitting with her bf at the other end of the table, but then her bf went to start the barbecue and as soon as the chair next to me was free, she took it and stayed there, just listening to my conversation with the Italians, until I went elsewhere. (As a side note, when I saw her two weeks before that, she complimented me on how good I look now that I work out; I said Thanks, you look pretty hot yourself - but did not think much of it then. Historically, she was always nice to me, we could always have a good chat about whatever).

Then as usual, the alcohol kicked in, the music went louder, some dancing started. By that time, two distinct groups formed: one was me, “M”, “Z”, our gay friend “P”, and the Italians because we all spoke English (and we all had some class); and the other was “B”, “B”'s boyfriend and three couples who were his friends. They spoke poor or no English, and with the exception of “B” were all low-class types. “Z” was kind of trying to be with everyone at once.

When the “non-English” guys got on the laptop and started playing some dog-shit music, we would go out to the terrace, and when we got some of our music on, they left the floor. “B” tried to get me to dance with them a few times when I was outside, but I pretty much ignored her because of the shit the music. I had a really good time when “our” music was on though, there was some dancing in pairs, so I danced with the Italian girl first, then a bit later with “M” and “Z”.

What was interesting. The Italian girl said I was easily the best dancer (I had a blast, true, but I honestly don’t think I was that great). I had some newly acquired experience and confidence from the events of Story#6, but I only had a few moves in my repertoire, and I still messed up pretty badly a few times. And nevertheless, all three of them were doing their best, and actually apologetic afterwards, for being bad dancers. “Z” was like, “Wow, where did you learn to lead like that?”.

Then it got a bit late, and I was having a drink and chatting in front of the house when someone played a song I really like, so I went back in. The floor was almost empty, but “B” and one couple. So I asked “B” to dance - I actually took her, I didn’t ask - and she followed as if she was waiting for it. I could see she was really doing her best, and she was pretty keen to get close. Then, as the song ended, she gave me a sort of a hug - which was more like she wrapped herself onto me, her hips and mine in full contact. Which was nice. I did not push things further, because I was not sure what to make of it, and I’m not particularly keen to dismantle peoples’ long-term relationships. But then again, I will certainly not object to her advances! I’ll see if I manage to set up a meeting with her, and find out what’s on her mind. Maybe do another test with MX353. Should be interesting :slight_smile:

Overall, I had a good, good time, I love how girls all look at me, I love the respect from guys, I love how everyone around me seemed to be really enjoying themselves. Have I become a pheromone addict? :smiley:

What is interesting though, I am writing this from work, wearing no pheros, but I still feel as if I had A314 on. Confident, composed, powerful. Has my actual value gone up, thanks to all the attention I’ve been getting from girls etc.?

This way or another, my next order will definitely contain the A314 oil, so I can use it more liberally. I am really curious to see what happens when I OD on A314 :smiley:

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Hi, I am back after a break - with some good news! I have a GF, her name is Z****, she loves cuddling and she loves getting intimate with me. She is fun to be around, very bright mind so we can have some great conversations - plus she is cute in this shy kind of way.

I am not entirely sure how much of our relationship to attribute to pheros - when we were still meeting just to chat and get to know each other, I would often use some pheros, but not a lot, usually one spray A314 or A314 + IShine, which always helps. But at least once I went with just some IShine because I was in a foul mood all day, and I feared I might get stingy on her if I put on any A314.

What pheros definitely did help with, was that push from “just friends” to “romantic”. At one point I was actually ready to give up on her because we met like four or five times, and although we did enjoy our time together, there was almost no sense of progression. She did like me, but I did not feel like she was interested in moving beyond just a nice chat every now and then - no attempt at holding hands etc. She did let me keep my hand on her hip, but she seemed tense at the same time. This later turned out to be her shyness, but I didn’t know that, and at that point I decided I was going to ask her if she wanted to go on a “real” date, and if she refuses, I will move on to other girls.

So I did just that. I wore 1 spray of each A314 + IShine x2 + MX353 before going out, and my mood was great that day. We had a nice lunch, exchanged some fun stories, and as we were waiting for our buses home, I simply asked
“We met quite a few times, we enjoy talking and stuff… do you want to go on a date?”
She got a little spooked I think, and said something to the effect of “Let’s give it a bit more time, no need to rush things.” - which I took to mean she’s not really interested. But wearing the 'mones makes you somewhat immune to rejection, so I said fine, see you later, and that was it. I decided not to bother with her too much, especially that I have recently met some nice “prospective” girls.

But, much to my surprise, she texted me later about some work stuff she’d told me about. We exchanged some texts, and then all of the sudden she sends this: “What did you mean by date?”
I laughed and replied “Hahah, you’re funny :smiley: A date, you know, a nice meeting for two, with a prospect for a kiss at some point!”

She liked that, and we ended up cooking a supper together at my place. It was a real date this time, we cuddled on a sofa, kissed a lot, danced to Sinatra and generally enjoyed each other. She clearly loved it too, because she took her toothbrush and pyjamas on our second date! :smiley:

There is a strong chemistry between us, no doubt, but I also believe MX353 does influence her strongly. When I’m wearing it around her she’s wet even before we take our clothes off, she can barely control herself. All I need to do is make a move and she just explodes with desire. Which is nice. :smiley:

On the other hand, IShine makes her a bit too chatty - she likes talking, like most women do, but with IShine, there just seems to be no end to her streak of stories, so I have to interrupt her, just so I can get a word in, which makes both of us feel awkward (me because it’s not nice to interrupt, and her because she realises she’s been banging on for too long).

Oh, and A314 is the best. It can even make bed better - women do like confident guys, and it always helps when you are unmoved by the little awkward moments that can happen when you are with a girl (such trying to open a particularly troublesome bra clip).

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Hi all, I think an update is in order :slight_smile:

Z* went from being my girlfriend to being my friend-lover (or mistress, whatever you want to call it). It’s a long story, and we nearly broke up at one point, but then she decided she actually needed a lover, not a boyfriend, and I was more than happy to fill that role :smiley:

I decided to go to a club at one point, just to see if I would get any attention. I wore a lot of A314, IS and MX353 (basically all the pheros I had). I knew it would be kind of tough because I never went to clubs before, and going alone would make it even harder. But by the time I got to the club I chatted up two ladies in their thirties who were waiting at my tram stop. They wanted to have fun and did not really know where to go, so I suggested they go with me, and I entered the club like a boss, with a lady on my either side :smiley: I danced for a while, with not much success (I really had no idea how to approach girls in a club), but when I sat down to rest, martini in hand, an attractive girl sat down next to me and asked if I smoked. I said I did from time to time, and she says would you go out with me for a smoke? I was like, cool, let’s go. Nothing came out of it really (my poor game, and lack of experience), but then again, I was not planning on making any conquests, and got a nice ego boost from her approaching me. So it’s all good :slight_smile:

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Some two months ago I ordered:

  • A314 oil
  • Instant Honesty (x2 strength)
  • Turn Up The Heat (x2)
  • P83 @ 25 mg / spray
  • P74 @ 10 mg / spray
  • and got P97 @ 5 mg as a freebie

I wanted the A314 oil because I loved the spray version and it works out much cheaper. I was at first somewhat disappointed, because the effect seemed a lot weaker than the spray. While three sprays made me feel like the king of the world, four or even five drops had a still relatively gentle, smooth effect. On the other hand, what effect there was, lasted for the entire day and most of the following day too. This may be (at least partly) due to the cold weather as I was testing it in winter months with temps mostly not far from 0 Celsius.

I got TUTH because I wanted some direct sexual phero and boy, does it work ;> While sex with my mistress was never actually dull, TUTH definitely makes it wild and gives me a sort of animal urge. A quote from 50 Shades of Gray pretty much sums it up: “I don’t make love. I fuck.” :smiley: I’m not sure how much of it is from self-effects, but Z* definitely enjoys the intensity, and is certainly more active herself.
If I were to order again, I would get the 1x strength though. I never went above one spray at 2x strength, and even that feels pretty intense.
Although, strangely, TUTH alone does not seem to make a lot of difference BEFORE we get to bed, and in fact may make things a bit complicated. While just chatting about some recent events, Z* did not seem compelled at all, and even occasionally refused attempts at physical contact. I think she maybe felt the edge, but wanted to have some conversation first, and TUTH made even fairly innocent physical contact seem like too much of a “sexual thing”. Also, she takes oral contraceptives, so is probably less responsive to tuth anyway. Still, this phero is great in bed :smiley:

Instant Honesty - I got this because Instant Shine is great for general fun and socializing, but it does not go very deep. IH on the other hand is great for sharing some deep stuff, and I did get the “Why did I just tell you this?” a few times. You MAY end up being more honest yourself than you would have expected, or even wanted, but it always seems to work for the best in the end.

P83 - I love this. I usually use two sprays @ 25mg. It gives me this gentle, pleasant ease, as if someone was holding me in a loving embrace. Any anxiety I may have felt seems to fade away. It is great for sex, because stress is obviously bad for your performance in bed and I did actually have some stress-related erection problems. And stressing about my lack of “performance” made it even worse - but it all goes away with P83. It’s like somebody was constantly whispering in your ear “it’s alright, you’re ok”, and Mr Limp turns into Mr Hard. This putative also encourages body contact. My lover, Z* definitely gives me a lot more hugs and snugs up in my arms, and she likes to feel me close and her hands are all over me a lot of the time.
Overall, it is an extremely pleasant phero, it has a lazy, cozy sort of vibe.

P83 + TUTH - I tried it just last night and WOW, what an epic combo. TUTH says “I want you bad” and p83 says “It’s all good, go on”. All the coziness and ease and body contact from P83 plus the urge and primal instinct from TUTH. I’ve never had such a consistent, hard erection. We went thorugh some seven positions in what felt like a Blietzkrieg, absolutely amazing. We both loved it, and in fact Z* asked me if we could do this again in the morning (she knew we would both have to get up very early). She loves making love with me, but is rather shy, and would not ask me for more sex so openly, unless drunk. So she must have REALLY enjoyed that :smiley:
Highly recommended combination!

P74 - I got this as an ingredient in Mobocaster’s fallout recipe:

I have not tested P74 alone, but the fallout mix is very good. I used:
2-4 drops A314
1 spray Instant Honesty (x2)
2-3 sprays P74 @10mg

This mix is really interesting because it alters the constituents’ effects a bit. It gives you the A314 confidence and “in control” feeling, but makes you more approachable than A314 alone. Instant Honesty works its magic with people opening up, but smoother - they don’t go “why I just told you that”, it just feels natural. P74 seems to make it all friendlier, easygoing and fun, sort of like you’ve known that person a long time.

I’m testing the mix on a high school teen that seems to be into me. We had fantastic time together, and we have tons of things in common, so I am going to see if we can overcome the age difference :slight_smile:

The mix certainly breaks barriers fast - I was on a train, still wearing the fallout mix, and a random conversation sparked with people travelling in the same compartment, and by the time we reached our destination, we got to know each other so well we added each other on Facebook :slight_smile:

P97 - I have not tested it alone, and it did not seem to make a big difference when added a few sprays @5mg to the fallout mix above.

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You don’t need some ego boost. You are overflowing with it. Having a friend-lover/mistress. Super! :smiley:

Welcome back, Quiver! :slight_smile:

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You are most kind, thank you! :slight_smile: I have a long way to go, and a lot to learn, and I am still not that confident. So an ego boost is always nice :smiley:

True, I have worked hard to better myself - I work out, I switched from wearing jumpers to fashionable blazers, I have a stylish haircut, etc. I even plan on doing laser eye surgery, just so I can wear those Ray Ban shades :smiley: But when I read some of the journals… my dear lord Jesus Christ, these people are so bold, and can pull off such incredible stunts with women, and not just get away with it, but actually get the girl they wanted! I learned a lot, but that just seems so beyond my ability!

Still, I am glad that I did all that work, I actually catch girls glancing at me with interest, pretty much every day, which is a huge, huge change for me. And well, yes, there is the matter of my mistress :smiley: If only I could attract “the one”… :wink: