Yes I agreed with what you said & your example 
Well to make things easier, i will try both opinion Phya & your opinion how about that? This’s better for me in this way Thanks.
Hmm, quite a response i get there from Streetarson, ok, i look like an average guy if you wanna know. So you are saying that a guy must have Decent/ok looks(like a cool look) & a personality(Like a cool personality) to make phero attract girls? Ok if the guy has the looks & personality to attract girls what would he want to use phero to attract girls, that’s basically foolish of him to do that right. Does this make sense?
I won’t flame you on my thread & you say this is the truth well i don’t agree on that basically it doesn’t make sense at all. If anyone here in this forum disagree with what i say here in my own thread & agreed with him(Streetarson), feel free to leave a comment here in my thread. Those who agreed with me also feel free to leave a comment too.
Ok u are saying about which guy a girl will take, yes most likely the guy that is in shape and keep himself together without pheromones & ignored the other guy which weigh 300 pounds,have pimples/zits,is hairy & no personality with pheromones. But first of all to be clear with you dude, i know what you meant. Are you saying those wearing pheromones don’t work? I 'm currently wearing Androtics Pheromones & won’t give up on them no matter what. Dude you are in a Pheromone Forum & you are insulting those who have been wearing pheromone now or before & the newbies as well. How will they feel after reading your comment. Think about what you say & how it affect others.
P.S. I don’t weigh 300 pounds man that’s heavy, did not have pimples/zits because my face is clean thank god,I always shave any hair i got so i’m not hairy & i have a friendly & courteous personality with pheromones. ( I hope people in this forum is not offended by this. All this that i’m saying is intented for Streetarson If anyone in this forum is offended, i apologised.)
Hey esstee, good to hear you have a good night 
using a thriple combination of TUTH,AMMO & Instant Openness. Keep me update about your progress. I would like to know more. Thanks
tuth is a pretty nice weapon for your arsenal. Ammo is right behind it. I need to still use io on it’s own before I can conclude on that.
Just FYI, my tests with Turn Up The Heat made me think of it as a cruel, but funny product. I would apply it ~10 min before classes and when I got there, the girls around me would be TWITCHY, LOL! I even had one who told me that she would skip classes because thinking of me made her “too wet”, I haven’t Turned Up The Heat in a while now because I don’t have any and don’t plan on getting anymore. I hope that those of you who are using it are having fun .
Hey PhatSounds,
I can’t really offer advice on pheromones as I am a noob myself.However I have been involved in a few other aspects of N.L.P. and consider myself to be a decent P.U.A.One thing you may want to consider is that pheromones are only one part of the equation.Equally important (in my opinion)is good mental & physical health.It’s possible the negative results you are receiving from your interactions are tied to the stress that your are going through with all your family business.Although these things have no relation to pheromones I would like to recommend some materials for you to study.The first is titled deep inner game by David DeAngelo and the second is The Venutian Arts Handbook by Mystery.These materials are geared more for meeting and interacting with women on various social levels but the lessons learned will improve your every day life as well.Combined with pheromones I think you can achieve the results you desire.Good luck in your future endeavours.
Ok esstee,i get what u have said. Thanks.
Hi Sexy Beast, nick nickname by the way, Thanks for the advice . It was helpful. I will check on the books that you have said but it will take some time. Thanks for wishing me luck
I suggest tuth and a togo of ammo rather than heavy ammo alone. Tuth is some lethal stuff 
Not really called for Streetarson!
I’m sure we do have some members in the forum that are very self-conscious about their looks and/or personality and they are here trying to better themselves.
If you can climb down from your high horse for a minute, imagine yourself as one of those people, and think about how your words would have stung. Then think about how what you say may affect others.
I’d rep you if I could
But as long as you keep your self well, and have a solid personality there’s nothing to worry about.
Thanks Esstee, I wasn’t offended because the statement affected me, but because I saw how it could hurt others and actually did upset PhatSounds.
I’m an old dude and I aint Joe Stud, but I’m happy with what I look like and who I am, and even for a balding and skinny 45 year old, I still do OK with the ladies.
Hey phatsounds i don’t think that heavy ammo would be good for you as it is too heavy of a dose. instant honestyX4 would give you about the same reaction as instant openess. i have never used a314 but i heard that it is hard for younger people to use i would recomend instant gentleman which is a like a lighter version of it and to combine that with ISx2 and some instant openess. i am still am still a noob with this but i think this would be a good combination and is something similar to what i am using atm with good results.
Wronggggggg People are attracted to different things. Not everyone likes a buff guy… some girls dont mind weight on a man… pimples go away with proactive… and… as long as you dont have hair growing out your ears and nose some girls dont mind hairy men either. Some girls may even like hair coming out your nose, who knows.
Attraction comes from more then just visual stimuli. Men are highly visual not women. Hey we dig a hot looking guy as much as the guys do a hot looking girl but we look beyond that when we get involved with someone.
I dont believe in ugly people, I believe actions can make people ugly. You dont have to look like Brad Pitt or Johny Deep to use pheromones effectively.
And I would like to say that I think Larry the cable man is hot and I would do him in a second if I wasnt married 
So there. 
Tisha
Eh, I have a female friend who gets rashes when she brushes up against an obese person. . . LOL.
Thanks for proving my point
Tisha
I understand what you are trying to say here. Though on some aspects here I have to disagree. As you’ve made some mention of, personality is key. I’ll give some examples.
Let’s use the specifications you used as a basis and remove pheromones from the equation. I’ll freely admit to having been attracted to the heavy guy over the fit guy on some occasions. The heavy guy was full of charm and knew exactly how to talk to a girl. Not to mention some guys simply look good with the extra weight. Pimples aren’t forever, even for someone who has more trouble with them than the average person. As Tisha said, there is always Proactive. The hair issue. . .well personally I’ve always preferred a guy with a hairy chest anyway.
I’ll admit there have been more than one occasion in which I’ve encountered a guy who really wasn’t much at all in the looks department. However the personality that went with that package made him the hottest thing in the world to me.
It’s not so much what you have, but how you work with what you have.
Excellant post Dutchess, I totally agree.
Reps Tisha
LOL! Thanks for the laugh
Hey Larry, if you happen to be reading this…
Tihsa and Dutchess, thanks for helping to validate what I was trying to say. I have seen far to many guys that I thought were ulgier than I and had far less to offer, with women that I would give my left nut to be with.
reps to both of you.