Yeah that’s what I was thinking too. I honestly just didn’t expect it as much. I kind of got the feeling that she wanted to come with me to Kid Rock and that wasn’t going to happen. I was just surprised by her immaturity.
Which actually answers your question, because she was 23. I’ve found that there is a really big jump for many girls between 23 and 24. I’m just surprised at the huge gap in maturity levels. I’ve dated a lot of younger ones lately than 24 and I guess I got lucky for the most part. Maybe its upbringing?
Well it needs more testing, that’s the conclusion I’m at right now. It softens some of the edginess of the original ICM by adding in some additional molecules I mentioned earlier. There are 5 additional molecules that have been added and one removal of a molecule that was in the original.
Of course I have some pretty tight social skills (from practice fellows - meaning anyone can do it), but it was like social lube with a touch of sexy verging on sexual. The post-coital feel of the original ICM is still there, still strong and yet the deepness of the Bnol is also amplified for connectivity. You come across as a lover, not just some horn dog. It doesn’t make anyone want to just jump you and rip your clothes off, but it makes the ladies feel emotionally invested with you. A connection of love and lust both at the same time. You are the fun loving BF who they want in their lives, makes them experience something wonderful and yet mysterious. What’s a better combo than that? LOL, this weekend should be fun. I initially made 17 ml so testing will continue for at least another week or two before I’ll even bother sending out samples to a few select persons . Ask yourself this, have I been nice to SteveO?
Not (totally) buttering up to you Steve but I do really enjoy reading your posts and take them to heart. I would love to try out your ICM 2 to further your research, and what’s a better testing scenario that having an asian test it out in a conservative and rather reserved asian country! Lol
Then is the current version an extension of the 1a or 1b mix? Or maybe those are so ancient the current one is nothing similar.
Either way, if you’re looking for testers, I’d like to volunteer again. I still have a bit of some of the old mixes, and I believe I even have a bit of an oil version of ICM for comparison sake.
The truth of the matter is marty, its a combo of both, incorporating some of the best of both worlds. Taking out one molecule completely, adding in a few more and changing some ratio’s to work better with each additional molecule.
Guys the thing is, with testers, I WAS KIDDING!. If AD decides to make it into an MX than so be it and it will be available to test for anyone who wants to buy it. The big question is IF… It’s really not up to me and serves no value to anyone except me if I batch up a 30 mL bottle and then send it out to people. According to the new direction the company is taking this is not something that is encouraged anymore. AD wants us to test what they put out by itself and I work for AD. I shared my ICM mix with the entire community last time and was encouraged to do so to get others to share theirs. To put this as delicately as possible sharing is only as good as the entire community and I just don’t feel like sharing something with everyone if its only going to be a one-way street. I have seen a lot of great mixes that I have dearly loved to, come and go with no hope of ever seeing them. I understand it completely why AD plans to keep the research under wraps and I’m OK with that . As long as everyone knows I’m also OK with keeping my personal mixes under wraps too .
Last night was either another complete fluke, or ICM 2.0 hits them in such a subtle, this is high-quality BF material that makes me crazy wet for him, way that it might just be illegal. Yeah it’s been working that good. I need a base line though. I’ve been hitting up all new places and so I don’t know what to expect with these people. P at BuckyStars was a good base, but it could have been a build up of other stuff too.
If I send any out there are about 6 people I read their journals pretty much daily. Take P51 for instance. I read that monster every day and I almost feel I know every person in his journal. By-the-way P, you are right, D is a real hottie , but I’m glad you moved on . Its everything personal, that’s all I’m trying to say. Don’t be hurt, don’t be mad, or upset. As of right now, unless something in the foreseeable future changes it’s doubtful this will get made for a looooong time. As with everything its limited and I don’t wanna take a chance depleting my supplies. After all its been made loud and clear about the blackouts. I’d rather keep what I got .
Anyway sorry about the Saturday morning rant. I didn’t even have a single beer last night. Going out and not drinking makes waking up awesome. And my game was super fucking tight last night. Exactly why I want to test this on people I don’t game.
25k members?? You think chat would be more active
[sorry for the off-topic post!]
It sounds as if it’s going to shift away from the scientific a bit to make way for a more market approach =
This is essentially the only pheromone supplier/researcher who isn’t like that..
Hey I completely understand where you are coming from. Obviously you gave out ICM’s formula and yet there are still a lot of MX’s that i would love to try but AD hasn’t released the mixes for those. I’m actually afraid of this particular mix getting out. The only thing I’m interested in really is how you are coming up with your mcg’s for these mixes and also what you did with P74 and P93 for ICM 2.0 I never had any luck with p93 and I’m still shocked by what p74 can do blatantly but also what it will hint at. Most of my p74 hits came from men.
Its a pretty extensive process actually. First I test my sweet spot for each individual molecule. Then I take the heaviest most aggressive molecule (in this case it would be -NONE, or something similar) the start sweet spot testing each molecule against the other molecules. That’s how I got the ratios for TAC to -NONE. Normally that much -NONE might be high, but with the TAC its cut and buffered. Then I take the lightest molecule and do the same thing with each other molecule. Then as I add in each molecule I start off with my four basics, that I got from testing as mentioned above, in .25 mcg to see how it interacts with everything else. I work towards the middle. I have an idea what -NONE and TAC do together and what TAA and P93 together so I start like that and then to get to something else I keep adding and tweaking. If I add 3 mcg of P74 and all of a sudden the aggressiveness is out of whack I either add more P74 or something else.
Its as complicated as it sounds, but it all goes to the synergy of the mix. Its not much different than adding IO to A314. If you add IO and all of a sudden you lose the ALPHA vibe you either add more or take IO or more A314. Something will work better than the other but only from testing each iteration will you determine what to do.
I don’t have the experience enough with mixing to completely come up with precise ratios. However, I’ve made many of my combinations with the basis of ICM, which is probably still one of the best and effective MX’s out there.
Steve,
I’m curious, I know you used this with A314 plenty of times as well, did you do a workaround with 2.0 that you won’t need the A314 or do you still use it as a base?
Its a good question and at times I struggled with this quite a bit. My answer is no though, I did not make it so it would incorporate any of the aspects of A314 into the mix and here’s why. A314 is such a versatile, dominant mix, while ICM is more of fun loving sexy boyfriend mix. Two different sides of the coin. While both can be considered to same coin, I wanted to maintain to autonomy of ICM and keep it what it is and broaden that spectrum rather than attempt to incorporate things it is not. I felt it would have diminished the product and took it in to many directions. Also there are many members on here that prefer IG and that limits the usability of a mix. By attempting to satisfy everyone you satisfy no one. It’s easy enough to combo it with other items you love. Right now it embraces the post-coital NEW boyfriend halo glow.
I think it will surprise the heck out of you if it ever goes into circulation just how it flies completely in their faces, but right below the nose. They never see it coming.
. Ask yourself this, have I been nice to SteveO?
. Best thing would be to have AD make it, but that might not actually happen. We shall see
