Ok I know best comparisson would be Dirty Vs. Instant Jerk, but i was wondering if Dirty would have a similar effect as TUTH, I like the “cost-efficiency” of oils and wanted to try lots of Androtics products so I was wondering whcih one to get.
Are they even comparable? Both are -none aren’t they? only difference is Dirty has copulins right?
Thanks in Advance guys
Turn Up The Heat is 2.5mcg’s of Androstenone per spray. Its alcohol based. Its aggresive in the sense that it comes on strong sexually.
Dirty is oil based cops and Androstenone. Slow, long diffusion, it dosnt come on as aggresive as TUTH. It also has more of a player vibe. One of a man who has just been with a women. Some women like this vibe and some dont.
Oh and just so you know Dirty needs cover cause it smells nasty to most men and TUTH smells like neroli.
Tisha
Thanks Tish, so in your expert (and more importantly female opinion) which would you rather smell on a guy? I love coming across sexually strong but I don’t want to chase girls away either.
I think I kinda like the copulins idea, but if I could tone it down so it would just be smooth. A smell that instead of saying that I have just been with other women is just enough to raise a doubt. (does that make sense?)
Is there anything like TUTH in oil version? would that be RAW POWER?
Want the uncensored truth 
Ok I will behave I dont want to shock anyone LOL
Turn Up The Heat makes me horny as hell as in “god I need to have some wild sex”
Dirty is more subtle, arousing but not as urgent.
Yes Raw power would be closest to TUTH in oil
Tisha
Damn how the hell does one argue with that? I guess I’ll get TUTH 2x then
Any other female opinions? Male ones are welcome too of course
What if I were to combine TUTH with some copulin only product any recommendations?
Now dont go running out and getting 2X just yet. The right amount will make a women horny to much will turn us into sex crazed bitches.
You only need 2X if your over 40. 
Androtics dosnt sell a pure cop formula. If you use one such as essence of women with it you will get the same “Man slut” vibe you would with dirty but it will be most likely more aggressive since it will diffuse faster. Men do use copulins in tiny amounts in there sex mixes, you just dont want to come off as taken already because it narows your options IMO.
Tisha
Yesterday I went out with a girl I met the previous weekend at a club and wore 2 sprays of Turn Up The Heat + 2 drops of A314 and had excellent results a little distant at first but after an hour or so it all went smooth
So since I want to do some more experiments I was thinking to get Turn Up The Heat 2x and spray only once. (that would be equivalent no?) 2x the pheros for only 50% more (I see that as saving money)
Sure as long as you know your dosage its fine to get 2X and use the correct amount. I just want sure if you tried it yet.
Try it with some P83 if its in stock.
Tisha
Well I am thoroughly a fan of TUTH. OMG does it EVER make me horny:o BUT if I dont get my needs satisfied, watch out! I become a very catty women! lol
Dose suggestion: even though your results from your 2 spray test with TUTH was goodI would try out 1 spray and see if you can get great results too. No point in using more if you can use less.
Application note: I apply just before the moment of enticement and I find that works GREAT. I get so enticed quickly and it lasts a very long time and can be a TON of fun
Hey Curious thanks for the reply!
i tried same combo 2 drops A314 but 1 spray applied to neck/shirt collar/tie and didn’t get any results at the office (maybe it was the environment)
As I said I’m a very sexual/friendly person so I have a lot of physical contact (playful and friendly for the most part) and in Mexico we kiss hello so that helps to get my pheros across
So I think my sweet spot is 2 sprays (or 1 spray of TUTH 2x), want to experiment with 3 but not this weekend since I be meeting a girl I kinda like (kissed her long time ago but haven’t seen her in 2 yrs) and don’t wanna ruin it. Sexual is perfect coming too strong is not!
Thanks for the advice
so did anyone experiment with TUTH + Copulins?
Ok first off I would avoid TUTH at the office…knowing the effect it has on myself omg, I would either jump on you at the office and then get us fired OR I would get totally bitchie being around TUTH with no out.
Honestly try TUTH 1 spray at the bar or JUST b4 you are going to move things into the sexual realm.
TUTH isnt a product (in my mind) that attracts a lot of good attention. It more tends to be a “in the mood for hot crazy sex, right NOW” So use it a ppropriately. Something like ammo might be better for a sexual everday vibe.
I use TUTH and copulins. Copulins for the man TUTH for me. But I usually start the cops earlier in the night and add the TUTH when I want to move things more towards my beaus bedroom (or hotel room 
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thanks curious really appreciate your answers!
Attention is still attention right? No for real, I will try 1 spray, as you say I got nothing to lose if it doesn’t work hell I bump it back to two right?
So tell me Curious, do you feel anything from the copulins? Could you imagine yourself smelling them (very lightly) on a guy? How would you feel?
If positive what product would you recommend?
Thanks
Sure that’s right?
Whoops forgot my dot, thanks for pointing that out Been busy rounding up forum names for the big change
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Tisha
Is there any oil based substitute for TUTH? I would love to get my hands on one, would that be raw power? Would making it oil based (slower diff) significantly affect the performance of TUTH?
I love oils, don’t really like the sprays, where I live I feel they diffuse way too fast. Is there anything I can use to make it slow down it’s diffusion?
Thanks again to all for their contributions to this thread
MX238 is Turn Up The Heat in Oil base. It is a special order however and you might not be able to get it at the moment. Raw power should be a good substitute.
Where did you hear that, NB?
??? Jas! Tish! Steveo! ???
I don’t think too many people have it. I recalled a post by Quicksilver who got it specially made. It’s TUTH in Royal oil base (earlier used for one of the A314 versions).
Well, I dont think all girls note any self effects when wearing copulins. However I do find that when I wear EoW I get a lil turned on and I feel a sexual vibe around me.
This is definetly a different effect then TUTH, as I get really horny and feisty with TUTH.
The idea of a guy wearing copulins and turning on a women is an interesting one as guys dont make cops, so females can only perceive cops on a guy as them just being with another woman. Its odd thinking this would turn on a women, but for some it does. However this type of vibe would only be good in a nightclub/bar atmosphere. I dont think you would want to wear this type of mix around a significant other or girlfriend. By doing that you are giving off the "I just cheated on you, doesnt that turn you on? " So yeah…thats my thoughts on it. Good for a one nighter but not good for a future.
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Is double strength tuth/ammo twice as concentrated as regular, or is is it just double the -none?