Does TAA negate A314?

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I have a hard time getting past the smell of Instant Shine, and it has never done much for me. I was happy to buy a bottle of unscented TAA oil. Everybody has such good things to say about it. It seems to be one of those products you just can’t go wrong with.

The only thing I notice is that it seems to undo the effects of A314. It doesn’t have any up-lifting effect that I feel. If anything it is a little depressing. It is as though for every drop of TAA I add, a drop of A314 is neutralized. People stop treating me with respect. Women are down right unfriendly. When I wear A314 I am accustomed to being treated as though I own the place – whatever the place might be! TAA ends that.

I wonder if anyone has an explanation for this. The best I can do is to speculate that as it removes personal distance, it brings people closer to me than they (or I) am comfortable with. It is kind of the ‘familiarity breeds contempt’ sort of thing – blam, the Instant Anti-A314!

I notice a similar effect with IFM, if I wear too much. I like IFM. A little of it removes the shrill harshness from certain women and even seems to calm the snarly female dog within myself on difficult days. If I wear too much, women are understandably more comfortable with me to the point of being less deferential. The other day I wanted things to go smoothly at lunch and I used several extra sprays. This woman just kept asking me when I was going to have sex with her. The truthful answer was “never,” but I didn’t want to be rude. I wish I’d used a little less IFM. The IH contributed too, but I like honesty. With the TAA, though, even a small amount seem to exactly cancel the A314. And I do not notice any positive effects.

This is NOT one of those ‘how can I get a refund’ threads. I’m keeping the TAA and Instant Shine and experimenting to the end. I want have those positive experiences everyone else is talking about. I’m curious if anyone has any interpretations or suggestions about what I’m experiencing.

Normally, I wear 2 drops of A314, a few inches of SOE, 2 sprays of IH and one spray of IFM. If I wear 1 drop of A314 it is just an annoyingly small taste of what’s possible; 2 sprays and people treat me like I’m very important; 3 sprays and I want to punch out cops – so I’ve settled on two sprays. Now I am considering the scary possibililty of increasing my A314 to see if I can keep the A314 effects when I wear TAA and perhaps learn something about what TAA might bring to the mix. When I wear TAA all alone I don’t seem to notice anything from it.

Next week I’m planning to try 3 drops of A314, 2 drops of TAA, 2 sprays of IH, 1 spray of IO and 1 spray of IFM. I’m increasing the A314 and adding TAA. I’m also adding a spray of IO to the IH to tone down the seriousness a little at the -nol level and I’m dropping the SOE since I’ve already added -rones and -nol.

Any suggestions before I proceed?

Survey: Is TAA oil worth it?
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Umm… some of us can’t even wear the stuff… and here you are complaining about women propositioning you. How dare you, sir! :angry: … :slight_smile:

Seriously… I haven’t noticed that effect with MX 172 and Instant Shine… so I don’t know. MX 172 still produces alot of courtesy even with Instant Shine. Maybe A314 is decidedly different- maybe your personality is different.

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I was at Whole Foods and there was no one at the meat counter, which is weird because when I wear A314 people just magically appear. Finally, someone shows up and asks me if I need help. I said yes and that actually seemed to confuse him. I asked for a large rib eye. He reaches in and picks up the smallest one. I just looked at him. “Oh, you wanted a large one,” he says. He then gets a medium sized one. I just took it because now it is starting to get weird. Normaly – when I’m wearing A314 – I’d expect the butcher to reach in and pick out two of the largest steaks and ask me which one I liked. No respect. I’m an A314 wearer! Doesn’t this man know I’m important?

Seriously though, this is one of many examples. It just happens to be a good one for making my point. The woman at the pharmacy who was very friendly last week just looks through me as though I do not exist.

I’m short and people tend to overlook me. But when I wear A314, I’m “da man”. Then I add TAA and they pay no attention. I haven’t figuered out what to do with TAA. For now I’m planning to force the issue by keeping the TAA (which I’m starting to hate) and adding more A314.

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maybe i need to OD on instant female magic to get ladies to ask me to have sex with them LOL

I just got TAA OiL myself, and to be honest, so far I have had better results with Instant Shine then with TAA oil, but I don’t know I still need to do more tests

I have had really good results like yourself with A314 + instant Shine

btw you can order instant shine unscented if the smell bothers you, i might do that for my next order of instant openness

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I have not had that problem although I have switched over to Instant shine although I originally used TAA.

Part of it may just be a conflict of desires. You say:

I will start by saying I have NOT experienced the unfriendly females thing or feeling depressed with TAA. But nor do I get a lot of self-effect off of it either.

A lot of us use a social product - to include TAA - to cut down on the “respectful distance” that we get when using A314 by itself. We still give off the alpha vibe its just that with a social product added in, people will approach us, talk, and interact on their own without us initiating.

You seem to prefer that respectful distance. My suggestion is, that being the case, do not use TAA or another social product with the A314 if you want the distance thing. Just run with the A314 by itself if you are not getting any uplifting self effects from it AND you want the respectful distance and treatment.

Once again if you want the deferential thing, stick with straight up A314.

Well if only we all had that problem - women wanting to have sex with us if we wear a little too much IFM.

Although Tisha did nickname a mix with IFM “IBDM” …

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Wasn´t there a post from Tater with something P83 and P86 what is although named that?

Maybe it ist 30% P83 30% P86 and 30% IFM…

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In a response to a query about bisexual women, Tater noted that kinky girls like TAL and TAH but not TAA. This reawakened one of my life’s great worries, namely that I am actually a lesbian trapped in a man’s body and not a real heterosexual man afterall. You can see how that would keep me up at night (pun intended). This dark secret would explain why I get such poor results from TAA. And it would allow APR to patent the use of TAA as an invaluable psychodiagnostic tool.

So you can imagine my relief today when I learned that TAA does work for me, when I apply it with enough A314!! Previously, I was using TAA alone and feeling nothing good, or I was wearing two drops of TAA with two drops of A314 and feeling as though the A314 effects were completly negated – a lot of money spent for exactly nothing! Today I increased the A314 by 50% to three drops, which normally would be an OD for me, and I left the TAA oil at two drops. The A314 respect was back similar to my two drop norm. But wait there’s more! I finally got the lowering of personal distance effect of TAA. It was good.

I still do not understand how people can call TAA uplifting. It was more grounding, centering – I’d like to call it down-lifting. I’m on the subway and it was as though I could actually reach out and touch those pretty girls. And, of course, I could, but it never seemed that way before – probably because it would get me thrown in jail. But they also noticed that I was in the same physical world as them and weren’t unhappy about it. I guess this is about as good as I’m gonna be able to describe this effect. It is new, and it is good.

Today I dealt with people who are regularly friendly and things went as smothly as usual and probably better. I dealt with people who are regularly cool and distant and things were much more smooth and friendly. I did well with strangers and women I didn’t know seemed more aware of me and willing to speak or make eye contact. I didn’t hear “Yes sir” as much, but it was nevertheless respectful in a more comfortable sort of way. People gave heed to what I was saying and were helpful, unlike the butcher the other day.

Well, while I’m posting I just want to say I’m sorry about including the IFM anecdote above. I was just trying to give an example of how other pheromones can erode A314 respect. But it distractred from the TAA discussion I was trying to initiate. And it seems to have all of you thinking that when I wear IFM, cheerleaders and super models are throwing themselves at my feet. I assure you it ain’t so! I’m still looking for that pheromone. Coincidently enough, though, the woman in that example was expressing a “back door” interest. Tisha’s IBDM theory gains support.

On a thread entitled ‘Initial TAK observation’ examine writes as follows -

Now that I’ve got TAA working with A314 I’m gonna try increasing the dosage by adding another drop of each. I saw several cops today and didn’t have an urge to hit any of them, so I think it’s safe. Then I’m going to move toward examine’s “commanding mix” of A314 + TAA + TAH + TAL + TAK. I hope the TAH and TAL don’t turn me into a lesbian. Four drops of A314 should protect me from that, don’tcha think? I do want to be able to command cheerleaders and super models to do my bidding.

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Well, just to sum up here…

When I use TAA alone it does nothing positive for me that I can detect.

I love A314 alone or in combination. I get the effects from it that other people report. One of the first things I noticed when I first started using it many months ago was that people were very respectful of my time. They just couldn’t stand to leave me waiting in line.

But when I combine A314 with TAA oil in equal amounts (two drops A314 with two drops TAA oil), I experienced nothing. It was as though The TAA competely cancelled out the A314 effects!

When I add an extra drop of A314, I get most of the A314 effects back, perhaps with less of an edge. I get fewer "Yes sir"s but I am still treated seriously. And I notice something positive from the TAA. The most definite thing I notice I would have to call a “decrease in personal distance” and a sense of bing more centered, grounded.

I have, since my last post, moved from 3:2 A314 to TAA to 4:3 A314 to TAA. The results are similar. I like the higher dose better. Previously, I couldn’t wear so much A314; it made me hostile, arrogant, aggressive. I also experimented with the composition of the four drops of A314. I tried three drops of the current version and one drop of the older version which doesn’t smell like cat urine but has the stand-offishness quality. I liked this combo. The TAA overrode any slight standoffishness that might have been incurred from the one drop and the smell, of course, was not so bad. Plus I got more A314 than TAA at a slightly higher dosage.

I started another experiment. I took an old SoE bottle with about a quarter inch of SoE left in the bottle. I chose that amount for no other reason than hisorical accident – that’s how much happened to be left. I added A314 and TAA oil in a 3:2 ratio to increase the volumn about another eighth of an inch. I thought this little roll on bottle would be convenient to touch up my pheromones in the afternoon. I have also used it to quickly apply a small amount of pheromones before running up to the corner store and back. I didn’t want to spend the time and pheromones on such a brief outting, but didn’t want to be pheromone naked either – you never know what is going to happen. This has worked out quite well. I can tell a difference with just a few inches application. Next time I am going to add just a little more A314/TAA to a similar amount of SoE.

With my typical base of A314(4), TAA(2) and IH(2) and sometimes IO(2) in place, I am now ready to start experimenting with adding some of the putatives and experimental pheromones. All I have tried so far is one spray of TAF. It was nice. Added a subtle bit of focus and heightened awareness/curiosity concerning my environment.

–Warren