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I come{get} from Germany (Saxony{Saxon}), am 26 / m and read with joy and big{great} interest this forum. To me has struck that here, above all, a pheromone product big{great} popularity has taken pleasure. Because I am not sure whether I may call{mention} the name of the product, I leave out him in my contribution. It was produced by a likewise very respected Member of this forum. Unfortunately, he let of himself for a long time{long ago} hear nothing more and it is not sold since the last year any more about Smartmones.com or the web page of the Members. This pheromone product contained according to the salesclerk 5 different pheromones (a total of 6875 mcg) in 30ml. Besides, it concerned 3 confessed and 2 unknown (" AX 201 “and” AX 202 ") pheromones. Also I have done{made} thus my thoughts{notions} to myself which mysterious{enigmatic} pheromones could be this.
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On the web page of the salesclerk I read from a study about pheromones of D.B . Gower and after some search{investigation} on the Internet I found a very interesting report …
Now on account of this report I have the supposition, which to myself with 2 mysterious{enigmatic} pheromones around Androstadienone (AX 201?) and Beta-Androstadienol (AX 202?) could act. Now I have counted from curiosity sometimes a little bit:
Study: Androstenone = 0.4 (12) mcg
Androstadienone = 3.9 (111) mcg
Beta-Androstadienol = 0.1 (20) mcg
Alpha-Androstenol = 0.5 (47) mcg
Beta-Androstenol = 0.1 (11) mcg
(=** a total of 201**)
In the abovementioned pheromone product** a total of 6875 are included mcg pheromones (->Cologne grade alcohol mixed with a top quality masculine citrus essential oil) .. I divide{split} this value now by 201 (total value of the study{sketch}) and receives a new value (~34.20)** on which I count as follows further{farther}:
6875mcg / 201 = ~34.20
Androstenone = 0.4 (12) mcg * ~34.20 = 410.4 mcg
Androstadienone (AX 201?) = 3.9 (111) mcg ~34.20 = 3796.20 mcg
Beta-Androstadienol (AX 202?) = 0.1 (20) mcg ~34.20 = 684 mcg
Alpha-Androstenol = 0.5 (47) mcg ~34.20 = 1607.4 mcg
Beta-Androstenol = 0.1 (11) mcg ~34.20 = 376.20 mcg
insg. = 6874.20 mcg
=** ~6875** mcg
However,the called{mentioned} pheromone product contains 6.25 mcg Androstenone by spray, these are with 200 sprays by bottle approximately{nearly} 1250 mcg Androstenone.
Androstenone = 1250 mcg
Androstadienone (AX 201?) = ? mcg
Beta-Androstadienol (AX 202?) = ? mcg
Alpha-Androstenol= ? mcg
Beta-Androstenol = ? mcg
= 6875 mcg
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There will probably remain forever a secret{mystery} which 2 confidential pheromones are really included and how the mixing proportion of the different pheromones to each other is.. (!?)
However, maybe one can experiment with the help of the study{sketch} already a little bit.
As a basis for my mixture proposals, I have considered to split the relation{ratio} of the pheromones as follows:
For dates, clubs and nightbars 3 sprays are recommended, this corresponds{fulfills} to 18.75 mcg Androstenone (to 20 mcg it is recommended in general).
3 sprays:
A-none: 18.75 mcg
A-Androstenol+A-Beta Androstenol: 46.88 mcg (7:3 relations{ratios} to A-none (*2.5))
Androstadienone+b-Adienol:** 37.5 mcg** (6:3 relations{ratios} to A-none (*2))
Androstenone = 1250 mcg
Androstadienone (AX 201?) = 2000 mcg
Beta-Androstadienol (AX 202?) = 500 mcg
Alpha-Androstenol = 2500 mcg
Beta-Androstenol = 625 mcg
= 6875 mcg
or: Androstenone = 1250 mcg
Androstadienone (AX 201?) = 2000 mcg
Beta-Androstadienol (AX 202?) = 500 mcg
Alpha-Androstenol =** 2000 mcg **
Beta-Androstenol =** 1125 mcg**
= 6875 mcg
Other{Farther} good examples to experiment:
Androstenone = 1250 mcg
Androstadienone (AX 201?) = 2000 mcg
Beta-Androstadienol (AX 202?) = 500 mcg
Alpha-Androstenol = 1250 mcg
Beta-Androstenol = 1250 mcg
= 6875 mcg
**or:Androstenone = 1250 mcg
Androstadienone (AX 201?) = 1500 mcg **
Beta-Androstadienol (AX 202?) = 1000 mcg **
Alpha-Androstenol = 2500 mcg
Beta-Androstenol = 625 mcg
= 6875 mcg
But now these were only my ideas, there are put{placed} to the experimental-friend no borders .
Over and over again I have read in this forum the positive reports on this pheromone product. One speculated a lot on what is exact and is included in which relation{ratio} in this pheromone product. I find a pity that a pheromone product has the so good results{outcomes} in his{its} effect obtained, (as most users of the product reported in the forum) during the last months seems to fall into oblivion.
I would do{make} so with pleasure mine own (I hope as positive) experiences with this product.
All wish again this apparently unique product in this or similar form{shape} of Androtics, could be vote in this or in new thread for it{in return}. But only if this is allowed in the pheromonetalk forum. Maybe Androtics hears our prayer and publishes this pheromone mix soon again for us, or they betray to us at least the mixture secret (the confidential formula) .!? I and determine{stipulate} many others in forum would wish this so much.
In hope that this pheromone formula awakes again to the life and is to be acquired again for every{any} pheromone user I thank as an eager reader for many experience reports, particularly I would like to thank the Androtics team for the excellent work{job}!
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------------Good experiences made with Pheromax (old)------------
Momentarily I use Pheromax (new) and Aurora (Androstadienone/Tetra)
You are probably talking about Pheromone proof, also known as MX101 here. As far as I know it’s not available at this time. There are other products here which might interest you. Have you checked out Ammo?
Yes . However, I think the single pheromones in PP are better tuned on each other. Sorry Ammo.. Unfortunately, you are only almost so good !? What do you hold, actually, from my own pheromone ideas and formula examples (see post 3 in this thread) ->
Ummm Mixing pheromones is not easy, You need to achieve the right balance of pheromones as well as the carriers and diffusion agents not to mention certain steering pheromones.
Your mix looks basic but interesting. Have you tried it out yet ?
Which product would this be ? If its Pheroproof you can talk about it or mention his name. He is still a member here although he doesn’t post.
This formula wont be released again unless the creator decides to release it and at this time he does not. He is a long time member here and Androtics mixed and released it for him for testing on his request. While it was a average formula, AMMO is far more popular and effective. I can tell you that the formula you posted above is not Pheroproof or even close really. Its missing a few key components as well as having pheromones that are not in there.
Not sure what you mean by this, All Pheromones are single molecules. AMMO has 3 mone molecules in it that are perfectly balanced and buffered and compliment each other.
I would say the mixes in 3 and 4 are unbalanced and alpha heavy. It needs something to steer it more. I think they would be a bit overbearing and could easily produce the opposite effect your looking for.
You really could not know for sure without giving it a test run first though
This is not to say the whole ideal is bad or anything, just that it lacks something.
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