So, David called today 
We hadn’t talked in a while and he wanted to catch-up with me, told me to call him when I wanted to get together, because he wanted to hangout soon 
(Just wanted to add that because it was very sweet of him)
No addition reports yet, not many opportunities as of right now.
Lovely, Little, Insomia-Driven Update
Thought I would drop in and let everyone know what is going on Now, if you can recall, there were people in my previous posts who I tested on a day-to-day basis, right? Right. Well, I have been keeping in touch with some of those people, specifically, Amanda, David, and Barbara.
OK, stay with me, I have been talking with Amanda for a good two years now, and we talk alot. We’ve been pretty good friends and she is someone I felt comfortable telling that I am bisexual, I told her last year and she was perfectly ok with that (can’t go into details, because I there are some personal things I promised I wouldn’t divulge). Trust me, it’s relevant.
I started using phero’s around Amanda about 3-4 months back and have never tried to influence her to become anything more than a friend, because there’s never really been anything between us, like that. Got the quick semi-relevant back story? We’re close, open, and good friends, alright? Good.
Now, awhile back, about 3-4 weeks ago, I brought up to Amanda, in class when we were in school, David. Asked her if she knew him or met him before, and it turns out she didn’t, so I go to tell her about him and how I think he’s really cute :o. Fast-forward to within this past week or so.
I now tell her that I can’t figure out if David is straight or not, how he’s called me wanting to do something, and, again, that I really like him. So, after talking about this for a little while, she comes up with the idea to set up a ‘secret’ double date. 
Were Amanda and her boyfriend and David and Myself could all go downtown for the day. This way she could maybe talk to him and see what up, and help me determine if David and I could be more then just good friends. 
It’s an interesting thought, indeed.
Planning might be hectic, but it might work if just me and him start hangout more. That way he could be more open to going. It’s still a little sketchy, but it’s something.
Annnd
Remember when Barbara gave me her number? Well, being the person I am, mostly gay and always anxious on the phone, I texted her rather than calling . I thought we could be friends. And guess what, turns out we get along pretty well and have been texting back and forth for awhile now. We agreed that we should get together soon and do something. So, might have plans there.
Also, I’m trying to get people to go with me to the Gay Pride Parade in Chicago on the 28th. I’m talking to Amanda now to see if she can come. So, there’s another thing
I write all this because I sort of feel bad that I haven’t done any testing in quite some time now, and didn’t want to seem like I was giving up on reporting, or just being dismissive.
And that’s my Lovely, Little, Insomia-Driven Update. (I have been experiencing extreme insomnia.. it’s 5:30am right now)
See, I’m still doing things,
haven’t dropped off the face of the earth just yet ,
Dominick
Cover yourself in EST - NO cops - and shine! 
Go get em.
That’s exactly what I planned on wearing around Barbara and Amanda
However, not around David, because the last time he became uneasy around me when I wore it. I plan on wearing TAL covered by Instant Gentleman, when with him. TAL seemed to really get him interested and Instant Gentleman allowed him to discretely act on that attraction. So, I figure when together they should really get him to move
Think about what EST does - it’s a male to female bonding thing. Pregnant women produce it so their mates bond with them and their offspring, and dont go fleeing in to the night when they turn psycho and fat. So when you are wearing a phero that is highly emotional and bonding between men (doesn’t do much to other women, at all, research shows) - naturally you’re going to get some interesting reactions from him, especially if he is either fighting an attraction for you, or not ready to face his feelings yet.
If he’s liking the TAL and IG, that’s good - good that you know what’s working for him. Do you suspect he is bi? You’re wearing an Alpha Female phero and a Alpha Male phero - probably something like Mystery Boy, Domnk Style.
I say DONT wear cops around him because if you wear too much around men (as a guy), it can be straight man velcro. If he’s straight, he may start to hit on you. Then get pissed and scared. If he’s not, he wont react, or be repulsed. NOT the reaction I think you want.
Best of luck, Drama Boi!
Interesting thought 
But I’ll experiment with EST more around women, because I think it does, something
Yep, I think he probably is, because he’s shown plenty of interest, but I’m a bit worried if I try to get closer to him, he’ll freak out because he’s straight and I misread the signs
I know he likes Alpha Females.. and I can’t dismiss his reactions when I wore IG.
It’s kind of like MB, but I think the -none included in MB is just too overpowering. I see it as a more sophisticated, sensual Mystery Boy, even if it is a little more simplistic .
When I wore Instant Jerk around him his reaction was slightly different from the other guys. There was something more that I could never quite place, somewhat like the reactions I was getting from the women I tested it around, but slightly more subtle
I remember Catlord saying, however, that at the right dosages both male and female bisexual hits would ramp up with cops. But, I will avoid using cops around him for now, just in case.
Haha, Drama Boi.. It works
Dominick
Update time
I called David and he invited me to go to LaserQuest, for laser tag and maybe food after, with like 6 other people I’m still staying with my TAL-IG combo though, but I might increase the dosages, we’ll see. He’s picking me up, by the way, and this is happening Thursday ! So, it’s quite soon, I’ll keep you posted.
Also, Amanda said it probably should be OK, going to the Gay Pride Parade, but she just has to make sure with her family (she helps them out ALOT). And then there can be some more concrete plans with that. I was thinking of wearing Mystery Boy and Instant Female Magic.. but I’m not sure.
Dominick
Alright, good news, it’s Thursday and I should have a report later today, whoohoo!
And, even more good news, Amanda can go with me to the Gay Pride Parade, and we’re setting up times, transportation, etc.
Sounds like a great testing ground for Mystery Boy, but Amanda always seemed to be hesitant around me with it on, probably because of the -none signature. She really appears to dislike that on me. I get wonderful reactions from her when I wear Instant Female Magic though, and I remember reading that both women AND gay men respond the same, for the most part, to it..
OH MY, I was reviewing my notes, to see how Amanda responds to any kind of -none on me (always becomes distant socially), and I realized what I was wearing when I wrote this
" David seemed mellow and open and commented on how he’s notices I have a distinctive scent, fresh, kind of like how the wind smells.. awesome."
That day, he commented on how he liked my smell too.. It was Intant Gentleman and Turn Up The Heat
So, does anyone think I should add a spray of TUTH to my TAL-IG Mix I’ll be using around him?
Edit: Going to leave out the TUTH to make it sensual and sexy, rather than sexual.
Darn, well the plans fell through. Apparently his parents didn’t want him to go out and we can’t do anything tomorrow, because he has an interview.
I already sprayed the phero’s on me, so I might go to a coffeehouse near by.
Enlightened Living Is Pheromones Grace
Well, I decided to go for it, I wanted to make the best of the day, and I did. Instead of staying in and wasting the pheros I had put on, I went to the coffeehouse by my place and in turn received fantastic results. They were pleasant and I made a good first impression, for myself and the world around me (more about that in the report ). I also got very nice self-effects from this combo, great for when practicing techniques pertaining to Shamanism, as it seems. It was quite nice, and made things seem much more relaxed, allowing you to see the beauty hidden behind ego, or rather, the self-conscious persona which bears down on us in the world.
Ok, enough summary, lets get to the report
Molecule L-Instant Gentleman Report
Molecule L – Large Bottle (30ml)
Scent and strength
Neroli, 10mcgs
Instant Gentleman – Large Bottle (30ml)
Scent and strength
Neroli, 1x
Application dosage and locations
Application
Applied one spray of Molecule L to my left wrist and rubbed it on the other and then repeated the process with my right wrist;
Applied one spray of Instant Gentleman to my left wrist and rubbed it on the other and then repeated the process with my right wrist and finished with one spray to the front of my neck (5 sprays)
TAL
2x – Wrists
Instant Gentleman
2x – Wrists
1x – Front of Neck
Location – Home
Time – 5:13pm
Environment tested in
Home; Coffeehouse (Starbucks); 30 minute walk outside
Self effects
While home*** -***
5:29pm – Relaxed; Very slight tingling throughout my body
While in Car* – *Got a ride to the coffeehouse
6:58pm – Welling of emotion in my chest as though there was great sorrow within trying to be expressed; the only thing I could attribute this to was the fact David and I couldn’t doing anything was in the back of my mind, I was barely conscious of this err.
Walked inside the coffeehouse ordered, Café Mocha Espresso, and went outside to drink it. About ten minutes later I walked back inside and ordered, some Classical Coffee Cake, and came went back outside, finished both the espresso and coffee cake walked back in handed the ceramic plate to the barista exchanged pleasantries, now at 7:32, and left for my walk home.
Coffeehouse*** -*** Inside
Calm; relaxed; smooth; kind; lighthearted
Coffeehouse*** –*** Outside
Calm; relaxed; enlightened (free-thinking, open-minded, felt free, and at peace with the life around me, nature-wise)
Journey home*** –***
Calm; relaxed; enlightened (free-thinking, open-minded, felt free, and at peace with the life around me, nature-wise, overwhelming sense of joy\kindness)
**Effects on others (With some detailed self effects) – **
7:00pm-7:38pm – Inside Coffeehouse
Walked up to the counter at Starbucks where the female barista was standing opposite me. (I had called 10 minutes earlier to check how long they were open till and the same women answered, she was very nice on the phone and was kind, somewhat unusual so, and had a high pitched voice, but not abrasively so.) She had darker blonde hair, blue\green eyes, about 5’9-5’10, early 20’s, healthy weight, very pretty, and had a gracious smile (at first, it developed more of a kinder quality as time progressed).
She happily says ‘What can I get you?’, with a smile on her face, and I, with a light-hearted, relaxed tone, respond by saying ‘I don’t know, I have to see’, with a smile, and pull my uncased glasses from my front pocket and begin to put them on. She then laughs, smiles, and says ‘Well, take your time’. I look over the menu and order my espresso she tells me the price and I take out my wallet, she smiles at me and laughs a little, and I give her the balance, say ‘Thank you’, and she hands me the change in return, with that now more than gracious smile. She says with grace, ‘Have a good day.’, and I wait for the male barista to hand me the aforementioned espresso.
I look around a couple minutes while waiting and the man called out the name of the espresso and I walk over and he kindly hands it to me and says ‘Have a nice day’ with a smooth voice and a slight smile. (What happy relaxed people, I didn’t notice such kindness when the female barista served others..) I proceed to walk outside and sit down in a black, metal chair next to a black, metal table with trees and floral shrubbery planted in the ground to my right that blocked the traffic from view and reduced the noises to a whisper, all I could really hear was the rustling of the leaves and plants, only seeing the roses growing within the various plant life, and finding the same mystifying quality of nature in the people within the coffeehouse through the glass. I see very small insects fly from here to there, undoubtedly brought out by the plant life, I enjoy seeing them drifting upon the gentle wind. I don’t have a care in the world, I am lost in the world were I am never astray from grace. (No doubt this ambiance is the result of the pheromones, because I have obvious anxiety issues around people I don’t know, but not this time, not today)
After 15 minutes or so I walk back in look at the foods behind the heightened glass counter, and stand behind a man who is ordering, she doesn’t seem as cheery as before (I think to myself), I walk up to the counter after the man is finished, half the espresso now gone, the cup still in hand, and find her with the same light-hearted expression as before, she begins ‘Come back for something else?’, with that wonderful smile, and I reply, ‘Yes, some Coffee Cake’, I smile as well. First she asks me ‘Enjoying the weather?’ and I say ‘Yes’, both smiling, to which she says ‘It’s really nice out today’.
She then asks me whether I want ‘classic, cranberry, blueberry coffee cake’ as she looks off a little to recall the types, then looking back at me, I say ‘Classic’. She says ‘Oh, classical [smoothly], that’s good’, smiles, asks if it is for there or to-go, and then asks me ‘Would you like that warmed up?’ I reply ‘Yes, please’, and she comments ‘It’s really good that way’ and walks away smiling. I start reading the board next to me as I wait and 2-3 minutes later she hand me the piece on a plain ceramic plate with a metal fork and says ’See you in a bit’ tilting her head the slightest amount, looking at me with soft eyes, and smiling, genially. We exchange pleasantries and I walk back outside.
I again find everything quite magnificent, eat my coffee cake slowly, and finish my espresso with delight. I watch the trees move as the sun hits the leaves and watch the clouds drift through the sky. I note a slight drop in temperature as the sun goes down and notice the wind slightly rise, and show happiness for the change, how different things can be. I walk back inside, 10 minutes later, and put my cup in the receptacle next to the door. I am unsure where to place my plate and see the female barista picking up some cloths from a spot in the coffee house where she is no longer behind the counter I walk up to her, we now are about a foot or two closer to each other because there is no counter between us, and she happily offers to take the plate and we exchange final pleasantries and I walk away seeing her away with a immensely good mood.
I begin my walk and find greater and greater humility in my 30 minute walk back home and reach beyond my comfort zone walking longer, with more presence within unfamiliar ground, practicing simple Shamanic techniques amplified by the sensitivity the mix gives me, emotionally and physically. It was one of the best, most humbling days, to date…
Duration of effects
5 hours or more
Effects from mixing with other products
The TAL seems to lighten the seriousness of the IG and mingle with it’s gentle masculine nature to make things much more sensual and relaxing. IG’s alpha vibe is present, but included within it is a sense of down-to-earth grace.
Range
3-4 feet
Time exposure
Almost immediately
Additional Notes
As I was writing the self-effects portion David called to tell me that his interview was moved to Tuesday; we are having coffee tomorrow with another one of his friends
-This is a spectacularly emotional combo that is potentially useful as an everyday mix
Dominick
I think you’ve found a great “daily” mix or a base signature!!
Unbelievably well written. Reps!
Have a good time tomorrow - wear the same thing, no changes. Report!!!
Thanks, I plan to do so and report more on this base signature
The reason it is so well written is, because the emotional recall was so vivid. Whenever mixes produce profound emotions, as was the case here, it becomes that much easier to write. Thank you for the compliment and reps
That is a beautiful, inspiring rep comment, in and of itself, by the way.
Dominick
This report is from June 12th, it was a busy day and I hadn’t finished it completely, and I wanted to rest a day before posting it. I wore the same TAL-IG combo as before and received some interesting responses from David and the Female Batista . This is just a little strange though…
TAL, IG Report Two
Molecule L – Large Bottle (30ml)
Scent and strength
Neroli, 10mcgs
Instant Gentleman – Large Bottle (30ml)
Scent and strength
Neroli, 1x
Application dosage and locations
1st Application
Applied one spray of Molecule L to my left wrist and rubbed it on the other and then repeated the process with my right wrist;
Applied one spray of Instant Gentleman to my left wrist and rubbed it on the other and then repeated the process with my right wrist and finished with one spray to the front of my neck (5 sprays)
TAL
2x – Wrists
Instant Gentleman
2x – Wrists
1x – Front of Neck
Location – Home
Time – 2:53pm
Environment tested in
Mini van; Coffeehouse
Self effects
2:55pm – Kind of anxious; more emotional than usual; While looking at some flowers I had gotten a couple weeks ago and are now dying, I couldn’t help but think of how beauty can be present even in passing. The browning and yellowing of the once bright green flora now meshes with grace, that is the greener, scented wells.
3:03pm – Blissful, not quite happy, it is different, like breathing for the first time, to find joy, rather than being enveloped and overwhelmed by it.
3:11pm – Relaxed to the point were it is difficult to walk without wanting to sit down
3:14pm – My senses were more emotionally evolved\based; it was like I was feeling things not just with my hands, but with my feelings.
Entire time talking with David and to the barista –
Much more playful in my responses (as was the case the whole time, description is of the way I verbalized things and presented myself overall), very happy and relaxed.
Effects on others
(Some minor references to the self-effects)
I was picked up around 3:30pm, by David, and we were in a minivan, and from the time I got to the passenger door he looked focused on the road and a little distant. The passenger and driver seat windows are a little more than half way open, and he asks me, ‘So, what have you been doing?’, I reply ‘Nothing really’(The conversation is slow at the start) I ask him, a minute later, as we turn on a corner, driving to one of his friends houses, ‘What about you?’, he mistakes this as me asking ‘How are you?’ and responds ‘I’m good, doing things’ or something vague along those lines. He says one of the two friends we were going to be with is washing his car and will not be coming with us.
David is now driving to one of his other friend’s houses to see if she wants to go, he tells me. Calling her on his cell phone, and receiving no answer, he exits the car and knocks on the door, as I wait in the car. I look out the open window and see him sit down on the single step in front of the door, and wait for the girl to respond to the knock at the door. She steps out for a minute or so and walks back in. He looks slightly perplexed, but not much, and comes back to sit in the drivers seat he says, ‘Apparently she sleeps till 5:00pm’ and explains to me that she didn’t want to go because she ‘didn’t want to wake up’.
We drive to the coffeehouse, now with my window all the way up and his cracked almost half way up, and I give him directions to the coffeehouse. He asks me if I want the AC on and I reply ‘Whatever you want’ and he answers ‘I don’t really care, that’s why I asked you..’ He seemed sharp, inflection-wise, at this point, like he was upset, bluntness was always one of his characteristics, but this was sharper than usual.
I tell him I don’t mind either way, I’m good. We drive up to Starbucks and mentions his friend again, the male one, and how there is another Starbucks by him, small talk… we park and begin to walk up to the coffeehouse, the day was nice and sunny with not too much wind, I ask ‘What was the interview for?’ He had brought up an interview when I was giving him directions. He says ‘Walgreen’s, they called my in a little while ago, because I applied’. And we walk through the door. The male barista asks what we’ll have and I put on my glasses and selected a Vanilla Espresso. David starts to decide what to get asked me ‘What do you think I should get?’ I told him that ‘I don’t know’ and he selected something Iced from the list.
The female barista waiting for him to hand her money, seemed a little impatient with him, but it seemed she was also trying to hide that fact with an uneasy smile. After he paid, and left to sit down, I walked up to the counter, she had black hair, was quite skinny, about 5’8, and was in her very early 20’s, I handed her the money and she appeared to be gentler and much nicer with me. Her smile was more genuine and her body language was much more relaxed. I couldn’t help but notice the unusual amount of hand contact when receiving my change too I thank her and she responds with a very kind goodbye.
(Now, here’s where things get kind of weird)
I sit across from David, about a foot or two away, and there seems to be tension between us, for some reason, at the time, unknown to me. We start talking and he eventually brings up the question, after like 5 minutes, ‘What have you been doing since graduating?’ I say, ‘Just making plans with people’ he asks ‘Like what?’ ‘I’m going to Chicago, for the Gay Pride Parade’ I say smoothly, with a smile. David then asks, right on the spot, in a serious manner ‘Are you gay?’ I say ‘No’ (it’s quite true because I do like some women).
And he then says ‘I think you are…’ and I laugh a little and say ‘Wow that’s some comment’ (I was very puzzled, and amused, by this comment, and showed it with a slight a slight smile\laughter the rest of the time we were there talking). He asks if I am going with someone and I say ‘Yeah, my friend Amanda’ ‘Oh, is she a lesbian?’ I laugh a little and say ‘No’
Then he asks ‘Why are you going?’ I say ‘What do you mean?’ ‘I mean couldn’t you be doing something better?’ ‘Like what?’ ‘Like sleeping’ he says, in a serious tone.
After this it became slightly more awkward. He ordered another drink to bring back to his sister and I ordered a brownie. The barista was a little more uncomfortable around him, I noted, when standing off to the side, and I then stepped up to the counter as he went to sit back down. She was kind and there was no underlying tension as with David. She was very polite, nice, and seemed happy. When I received my order, and after exchanging valedictions once more, and noting a strange amount of contact when receiving my change, again, she just went on to talking with the male barista, there didn’t seem to be as much attraction with her, as the last barista hinted towards, and seemed rather focused on the ruggad male barista.
I went back to sit down with David and we made small talk, talking about what he’s been up to, what his plans are, what mine are etc etc etc. There is still a strange dissonance between us all this time. And about 5-10 minutes later we get up and leave. We get into the car, with my window slightly cracked and his half way down, and he asks if I want to come with him to some gathering, but then quickly withdraws the invitation, because of some thing they’re doing afterwards, he says. This is quite a typical thing with him when I wear Instant Gentleman (see Additional Notes).
So, he says he’s going to drop me off at my place and then says that when he makes the new plans for laser-tag he’ll call me and pick me up. 
We pull up to the house and he appears upset, or rather uncomfortable, I get out and he says we’ll hang out again and drives away as I’m halfway from the house door.
Curious…
As I was writing this report my friend John called, I didn’t really see it as appropriate to wear this mix around him, so I used antibacterial soap on the application points and hydrogen peroxide, at 4:22pm.
Duration of effects
Lasted about 2 hours, before removing the pheros
Effects from mixing with other products
The Instant Gentleman seemed to be softened by the TAL, so much in fact that I came off as gay, according to the comments made by David. Instant Gentleman always seemed like a phero mixture that was already great at sending out a sexy signature, but at the same time sends out a vibe that hints at someone being bisexual. I think the extra TAL pushed that preexisting vibe over that line of uncertainty, away from assuming any slight heterosexual orientation. But this warrants much more experimentation, for sure. I am unsure if that comment David made was due to the Instant Gentleman exposure or IG and TAL combined.
Range
3-4ft
Time exposure
Almost immediately
Additional Notes
Every time I use Instant Gentleman around David he shows some interest and then immediately tries to excuse, dismiss, or withdraw that interest. It seems to draw him in and then make him uncomfortable because it is evoking some emotion in him he is shameful or troubled by.
-Further testing with this mix is needed, to see if the homosexual ‘gay’ vibe is a typical reaction or if it is merely a conditioned response brought out by heavy use of TAL and Instant Gentleman, used separately as standalones, around David.
-Also, if this mix does throw out a homosexual vibe, then the last test result may have been due to the further diffusion of the pheromones, leaving a less powerful signature. I’ll also experiment with less TAL
Dominick
I think you should have taken the opening to say you were Bi. It seems like a “lie of omission” to say you were not gay. You’re not, but you’re not totally straight either…
It could have led to a wonderful discussion of what and why you feel how you do, and probably gotten him chatting about his fears and nervousness. I’m willing to bet that he does feel something, but is nervous, scared, unsure of himself, etc. Open communication will help with that.
I think your mix is a Domnk style Mystery Boi.
I’d go with some EST and shine next time. Do you have honesty or bnol? I have sworn off bnol. I swing wildly on emotional zings with it, but I can attest that it DOES put you quickly in touch with your inner emotional state. Probably not the best thing for when someone it in turmoil… as I found out.
Verry interesting, and I hope it works out.
Oh, and what mix was more appropriate for Vladi? TUTH?
I would have, but he sort of sprung it on me, so I just was very literal about it I didn’t tell him more, because I’m sort of apprehensive telling people, it’s a very private thing to me. And I really didn’t want to make things extremely uncomfortable, but I’ll have to cross that bridge some time.
Yeah, that’s my bad.
Missed an opportunity there.. I think I might call him and clear that up. Not sure if over the phone is the best way to do it though.
Haha, well, it’ll get there, but for now it’s in beta
It’s missing something…
I’m a little worried about EST though, it gets him really worked up\uncomfortable, did the same thing for my father. That and I really don’t want him to think I smell like cat pee.
I have IH 4x, and that might just work for him.
On one of my IH reports I noted that he commented on my hair and started selling me a few personal details about himself, even though, he said, it might change how I looked at him.
Haha, no. He is not, in any way shape or form, my type. And he would be relieved to hear that, if only he could read the ENTIRE journal, instead of stopping because he can’t get past reading the homo erotic scenes, haha.
I let him in on my orientation, about 3 months ago, and after a couple days he accepted that and we were able to comforably be friends, that is after I assured him that no I don’t like him. haha
He’s 100% percent straight, so I figured Instant Jerk would be sutible cover with some IShine, you know, the hetero male bonding mix, haha. I have no report, because we just went out to play pool for an hour or so, and absolutely nobody else was there. Seemed to work though.
Now, let me just recap on David’s reactions, it might be a valuable glimpse into his psyche.
Instant Honesty 4x -
Comments on how he likes my hair and some personal details about himself that he normally wouldn’t tell someone so early in a friendship
Molecule L -
Showed much more interest in me; became much more attached to me, emotionally, during the week of testing; developed a much more affectionate, playful attitude towards me
Mystery Boy -
Little to no affect on our interactions
Instant Gentleman -
Rubbed my shoulders and then dismissed it as just being playful and commented on how it was somewhat akward; Massaged my head and after commented on how it was strange; Seemed more like he wanted to get closer to me, emotionally\physically; invite me to some social event, but then withdraw that invitation a minute or after
Instant Shine -
Happier; more awake; more talkative.. your typical IShine reactions
Estratetraenol (EST) - ***
Was very uncomfortable talking to me and very distant\evasive conversation wise
Instant Gentleman and Turn Up The Heat -
Seemed like he was more interested with talking to me and commented on how he likes how I smell and what that smell is like
Instant Gentleman and Molecule L -
Said he thought I was gay; was uncomfortable talking with me; invited me somewhere and then withdrew that invitation; showed interest in getting back together, even though it was so awkward
Instant Jerk and IShine -
Very interested in what I have to say; shows admiration; seeks approval; tells me things which are very personal to him and pays MUCH more attention to me than Sarah, whom he claimed to like for some period of time (but recently, no longer) and really seemed uncomfortable when Sarah would show some interest in him, via flirting, when sitting next to me and would start talking to me again. Also, he appeared to be a little bit uncomfortable when me and Sarah were really flirting
Even with all this data I am unsure of were I stand with him, what do you think of the situation Tigerlilly? Could you help me speculate as to what is going on with him, at least until I try some IH on him (we’ll see about the EST).
Hmmmm…
Sounds like he has some issues! He might be dealing with some repressed attraction to you, or struggling with his own sexuality, or feeling an attraction to you that he doesn’t know how to deal with. Do YOU think he is gay/bi?
Studies have shown that gay guys respond (neuro-chemically) the same way straight females respond to pheros. However, that is not all true for bi guys - ie, your reactions to Copulins. If you were totally gay, then you probably wouldn’t have had a reaction at all, I’m guessing. I bring this up because he responding to both masculine and feminine molecules on you.
Have you tested -none on it’s own around him? The IJ and Shine experiment is very interesting to me. The none makes you someone to be affiliated with, someone he wants to be with, in a masculine way. Tater has long said that Shine brings is a magnet for closet gay guys. He has a very funny story of ODing on Shine (10 sprays at 4x i think…) and going to the ER with a migraine… only to be hit on by the closet gay male nurse, who discovered his sexuality that night!
If he IS gay, is he “male” or “female?”
He is responding to the TAL, which, while it is a very strong feminine molecule, it is still feminine. You are still projecting a feminine vibe, albeit an amazon warrior-esque vibe. The AndrosteRone is a masculine vibe - not feminine at all. Combining the two is very very interesting. I might try it!! (Oooh, and do you have MX292? Try that, AFTER you have your conversation with him!!)
The EST reaction is very telling to me - with both you father and him. How is yoru relationship with your father? Does he know your sexuality? EST creates very, very strong attachment and bonding, LOVE feelings, right away, with men. Pregnant women exude it to bond with their mates. 100mcg of it is VERY strong, if you haven’t diluted it. Both these guys are getting hit in the face with “LOVE ME LOVE ME LOVE ME” signals… While I am SURE that your dad loves you, he might be a bit overwhelmed by the strength of his feelings all of a sudden, and withdrew to process it. How has your relationship been with him since then? With Franko, I think you are right - it’s probably too much emotional stuff too soon.
Lots of people point out that when Pheros are involved in a relationship, it seems to move at lightening speed. Emotional connections are made much earlier. If Franko is feeling emotionally attached to you, and is concerned about that, that could explain his behavior.
I revise my original recommendations. I think it’s important to have him feel happy and fun around you. You want him to like being around you. Wear Shine, lots of it, and then add in TAL and IG, separately, then together. See what happens.
I recently had a horrible date while wearing Bnol and TAF. We were swinging wildly from high and low emotions, and it put us deeply in touch with our conflicting emotions on our relationship. Its not something you want to wear if there is apprehension or conflict - you could magnify it, as I found out! Yikes! Light, happy, and joyful - have him associate you with good times.
Your mix is great for everyday interactions - you’ve proven that with the baristas. However, if you want to target him, then you’ll have to get him comfortable and happy around you first, then open up and let the emotional stuff fly.
That’s just my two cents though - what do you think?
Also, in regards to telling him your orientation…
I do think you missed a golden opportunity. What if he came back and said he had some questions, or was thinking “things” or what not? he might have been looking for an opening to talk with you. I think you should call him up and ask him for another outing, maybe something different this time. Something active, something bonding. Go for a hike, go swimming, go do something. Guys like to bond over activity much more than “chat.” A date that “does something” together is much more bonding than an evening spent talking, for most men.
While you are out doing something, bring it up again. Make sure you have a good reason for why you didn’t say you were bi right away too! He might feel lied to, and you dont want him to feel like he has to play the 20 questions game with you - did I word that one correctly, did I cover all bases?
Like I said, that’s just my .02… What do YOU think???
I agree with lilly, repressed emotions.
BTW, tried to rep you again, but I have to spread the love around first…
I agree, that’s what I think is going on. He’s one of those people who work, so naturally he is stressed out by\uncomfortable with his emotions, he’s always working on something. Yes, I do believe he is bi, maybe even gay. He has alot of female friends and no girl friend. And he’s never really been ‘intimate’ with a woman.(told me this the first day he was over at my house)
No, I haven’t, actually, I don’t even have even have straight -none. I’m still working out my issues with -none.
I don’t know, it is veerry difficult to tell with him. He’s very closed off and then, out of nowhere, will give me info that is very personal.
If you do, send me a link to your report
MX292? Nope, never really got it, but I would like to. It sounds like an interesting MX.
It is normal, if not a little distant. We talk about things, but tend not to delve into very personal matters. We’re kind of restricted around each other. He knows I’m not straight, but we’ve never talked about it.
It’s been the same, however he’s seemed to be a little more direct around me. Asked me the other day if I was gay or not, right out, when I told him I was going to the Gay Pride Parade. I just said ‘Uhh, what?’ and my mother just said to him ‘What the hell is wrong with you?’ (in a playful\serious manner). She holds the same view as myself, it’s my personal life, you can’t just jump into that
I think so as well, that would seem to fit.
Good idea! I’ll try that.
Indeed, don’t want him overwhelmed.
Thanks for the recommendation. I hadn’t thought of it that way.
Yep, I dropped the ball on that one 
Oh, yeah, I am sort of the opposite way, talking for me is the best
I’ll try that next time, maybe it is just too much for him right know to open up, so just sitting around talking could complicate things.
Yes, worded very nicely, and I do agree with you that I have to make sure he doesn’t feel lied too. I will set up a good activity based date next time.
I have had a sneaking suspicion that he is bi and has yet to come to terms with it, because he hasn’t yet come to terms in his sexuality. He’s never even been with a woman and now he’s having feelings for a man, that would definitly be confusing.
Good insight!
Thanks, djandarial, I agree as well
Appreciate that, and your insight! I’m rep-ing you for that, very enlightening.
Haha, you wont believe this, but it seems I have to spread the love around too before giving you some
Edit: I forgot I could even rep people these last couple of weeks
I missed out on a few people, I’ll have to make up for that.