Don't even try to wear AMMO + P83 in a normal day!!!!!

So it was the 10 mcg one?
Just state it again please, all that back and forth confused me.
10, 20, 40?

Try less P83?

e.g. try 20mcg, or 25mcg

Heck even try 10mcg for daytime

I’ve only been using 30mcg or 45mcg for get sexual now nightclub kindof vibes

Your definition of the quantities of each products (in mcg) that you used was the worst and most confusing I’ve ever seen. No offense intended :smiley:

That said thanks for sharing!

I still cant work out what you used though lol, was it a 10mcg per spray bottle of P83, applied X number of times to different parts of your body?

No worries, it was the 10mcg. :slight_smile:

I tend to put the strengths I use in my sig anyhow, but with P83, I was using 10mcg.

…GTE, I’ve just put in an order for the P83 20mcg.

I don’t like going straight for the higher doses, I like to start low and gradually increase the amount until I find something I’m comfortable with, but everyone that’s commented on pretty much every topic I’ve read (including my own) have said to try the 20mcg, so what the heck, I may as well.

Yeah its generally much better to start out abit lower, and see what happens as you increase the dose. i.e. Steve’s excellent sweetspot testing guide

Some people list the total mcg of a product that has been applied to their body (e.g. I used a 10mcg/spray bottle of P83, and sprayed one spray under each armpit. Total 20mcg P83)

I own a 30ml bottle of 15mcg/spray P83, and another 30ml bottle of 30mcg/spray P83

I’m thinking of getting a 10mcg/spray bottle lol for daytime. and so I can get better diffusion over multiple application points, at a lower dose. I also have been layering sprays, e.g. TUTH then spray P83 on top then spray IS on top of that.

I just got my Summer Ammo last week too (regular Ammo ran out) havent had a chance to test it out yet!

Just hit F5 and saw your post!

So let me see if I can simplify this.

It was 1 spray of 10mcg of P83 to my left arm pit, then another 1 spray of 10mcg of P83 to my right arm pit, then another 1 spray of 10mcg of P83 to the front of my neck, along with 1 spray of ammo SE (normal strength) to the front of my neck, then 1 spray of 10mcg of P83 to the back of my neck and to finish it off 1 spray of ammo SE (normal strength) to the back of my neck.

Hope that helps. :smiley:

Thank you, thats a big help for all us dum dum’s

Yes actually that explanate illustrates perfectly to me what happened and how much! Very clear on how it was applied now, thanks :slight_smile:

I’ve tried under the armpits ages ago with a cheap local store brand, was kind of interesting, it seemed to mix with my natural smell abit more, iirc it was a alphanol product and bacteria in the armpit can perhaps break this down to -none over time

I find back of neck quite good if I dont want self-effects as much as I want it to affect other people

I think we are smart enough to add up in your post that came to a total of 40mcg of P83 lol. and two applications of standard strength Summer Ammo.

hmm man i gotta go out sometime to try out this new summer ammo. i want to go out just to try out the -mones lol

Ammo SE has a really nice fragrance which i think is good on it’s own, but to get any effects, I think it works well with other sprays; and then it’s down to strengths and experimenting to find which is best for you. Of course, I’ve been using the Ammo SE (standard strength) with other neroli products; and the two scents combined, I personally think they work really well together.

I spray under the arm simply because the scent seems to last a fairly long time, or at least I notice it more coming through my clothing, than I do having sprayed it to my neck/arms, head (hair), etc.

The scent may last but the warmth, moisture and flora of your typical pit will degrade any pheros spryed there a lot faster than almost anywhere else on your body.

So was it an uneventful day or did you just forget about the whole thing?

So can you tell us what happened? :slight_smile:

Yeah right! I’m waiting to hear the rest of this story too.

As someone who plans to tour Lebanon sometime soon, I am all ears for this story.

Do the putatives or pheros work if sprayed onto clothing instead?

Because my work usually involves me washing up my hands and also have my neck covered-up, so, clothing (yeah, uniform overalls) is the best thing to be sprayed… but, is the effect of the P83 and other stuff layered together onto my clothes the same as you spray on your wrists and sides of your neck?

They don’t work very well and you need a much higher dose compared to skin.

Also some fabrics will trap the pheros and eventually start stinking, whilst looser clothing will often not get warm enough to diffuse well in general conditions.

I like this mix and have had wonderful results with ASE and p75 and p83 but let me tell you it attracts women too young. Unless all your after is IOI or your in your 20’s its not really approrpriate for the older man.

An older man needs a more masculine signal.

More masculine signal, means wearing A314 and P83 together, right?