what the dosage to use for cttm2 and Instant openess (assuming products are used individually . Some days just cttm2 , some das just IO) ? So one doesnt over dose
for instance i have ben using jsut cmtt2 and noticed nothing. today i upgraded to 4 sprays of cttm2 total and started to notice something. I just dont wanna risk overdosing while in experimentation for the sweet spot
You can’t really OD on those two products…
For your reasurance, Both those product contain only Anol /Bnol, CTTM2 has about 5-7.5mcg of Anol - Spaceland has 50mcg of Anol, I’m happy using 6 sprays of Spaceland + (300mcg).
try 6-8 sprays, you will be fine…
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I kind of learned that for some pheros to work, there must be a “social stimulus” as mentioned somewhere on this forum. When I spray myself with pheros and stay home, nothing changes. Everything is the same. But when you spray it and interact with people, that’s when the products really start to show its effects. My best experience for this example is with androstenone. I can spray myself with high mcg of -none and sometimes feel nothing at all when I’m alone. But if I sprayed myself with -none and went to a club, shit you know it’s gonna be on. Increased level of confidence and all… huge increase. But hey, that’s just me though.
what are the effects that cttm2 are supposed to have… I notice IG and IH… but havent noticed cttm2 working for me. I’ve been using like 2 sprays though so maybe i should up it a bit 
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ah, thanks.. i should make a spreadsheet with every product and it’s mixture… you know the mixtures of the other main products?
CTTM is like IH… So the effects should be somewhat similar just a little less focused on conversation.
While drowning yourself in pheromones does not necessairly mean better results, IO you could easily put on 8 sprays. It’s not like A314 where 8 drops would give you an OD.
IH and IO are similar products, I would not use both at the same time personally… IH is designed to trigger deeper conversations, by applying IO to IH you are lowering the emphasis on conversation and leaning towards ‘friendlyness’.
Vise versa if you use apply IO and some IH on top, you are moving away from a friendly, icebreaker effect towards deeper conversations…
CTTM is in the middle of these two, equally balanced (in terms of dose) friendly /chatty vibe.. A rather neutral standpoint IMO, the friendly person that people like to chat to, but not necesarily the most friendly or someone u could trust with inner most secrets
With IH i had a couple of people chatting to me loads for no apparant reason, these are people I did not know either… Spaceland which is Anol appears to make me popular but does not make people want to chat away with me (thank god). IO is closer to spaceland, but with the addition of some Bnol helps towards conversations which fits androtics claim as an icebreaker quite nicely .
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I posted a response and it never appeared? :S
edit: guess i have to do it again 
CTTM is like IH… So the effects should be somewhat similar just a little less focused on conversation.
While drowning yourself in pheromones does not necessairly mean better results, IO you could easily put on 8 sprays. It’s not like A314 where 8 drops would give you an OD.
IH and IO are similar products, I would not use both at the same time personally… IH is designed to trigger deeper conversations, by applying IO to IH you are lowering the emphasis on conversation and leaning towards ‘friendlyness’.
Vise versa if you use apply IO and some IH on top, you are moving away from a friendly, icebreaker effect towards deeper conversations…
CTTM is in the middle of these two, equally balanced (in terms of dose) friendly /chatty vibe.. A rather neutral standpoint IMO, the friendly person that people like to chat to, but not necesarily the most friendly or someone u could trust with inner most secrets
With IH i had a couple of people chatting to me loads for no apparant reason, these are people I did not know either… Spaceland which is Anol appears to make me popular but does not make people want to chat away with me (thank god). IO is closer to spaceland, but with the addition of some Bnol helps towards conversations which fits androtics claim as an icebreaker quite nicely .
awesome.. thanks for the information!
Think I might still make a noob post with some of this information.
You know if the other 2 oil based products are coming back?
I see 2 others; Dirty and Raw Power…
I like the oil based better personally and wouldn’t mind some more options
Remember those links I gave you in one of your threads and i said dont look at it if you want to blind test? They’re the ones I used to find out what is in androtic’s products… Just dont read about the P’s 
You won’t find all of their products (some /all? of their mixes are secrets) and some of them are only proposed to be in their products, I asume by analysing the effects.
I think I read recently the oil ones have been out of stock for a long time.. Maybe worth e-mail androtics and asking them…
one way to get CTTM is to mix 1:1 IO and IH
This will give you an exact ratio of the 2 and 2x strength
sweet! I’ve been thinking about starting to make my own… but I think I’ll wait a little bit, although that mixture seems pretty straight forward.
spaceland is supposed to be a REALLY high dosage of Anol. I wanna get it (maybe next week) and try it out to see if it does the spacey thing.
right now i have a LOT of stuff to work on.. and my friend just put in an order and got me an mx301 so now i can do the comparison.