Excelsior!

Hi,

I’m Matt in NY. I’ve been interested in the pheromone phenom since the days of Andron by Jovan in the eighties, up to the Realm of the nineties to today which I must say, in hindsight, makes me cheap and easy!( I hit this forum in a search for Winifred Cutler to answer a question I had.) Anywaaayyyyyy, I just bought/buy these for a set it and forget it ‘advantage’ in the battle of the sexes. Kinda makes me an ‘Ammunition’ prospect by default. If I were to go over my results from using those products, I have to admit to some dissatisfaction. I never/rarely went at the matter from the sense of ‘seeking’ the result, so my analysis is foggy at best, owing to a disorganized approach. And from my quik read of some posts here the issue is like nature/nurture, in that nurturing yur better nature just makes it all work out better in the end.

Now, going forward, my purpose with this tech is utterly selfish. Self-awareness, self-enhancement, self-development, and the responsibility to leave the place somewhat better than I found it. With the ‘orientation/indoctrination’ of the forum, and mind you I’ve read the bare mini just, the set/setting is primo (kudos to Jasmin, Trish and Steve, MHarris) to invoke the kind of ‘mental tone’ to evoke just that result, which is the logical precursor to any and all other ‘goods’ we seek for our lives. The plan, and you’ll pardon the unoriginality: to be the change I seek in the world. (Such balderdash, I know. Gotta lotta that stuff rattling the attic around if you’re interested.)Such a project will naturally require self-analysis and some reasonably objcetive and interested parties to these acts. This forum looks to be a likely place to begin.

Excelsior!

M

Hello Matt and welcome to the forum.

LOL. I had a girlfriend who loved my Andron. Every now and then you meet someone who used to use it - that is great.

As you read through here there are several of us who are about your age: Steve, Myself, Renny, Mark in Dallas, MarkL, Gegogi. I mention this as our dosing is often a little more than the young guys so bear that in mind. Plus Gegogi is ethnically Korean so his none dosing is often crazy high.

I am reading this but still not sure what you want to do. Self-improvement of some sort is what i am reading. A starting point might be the social products. something Like IH will help others feel connected to you and possibly open up to you. Ishine will leave others feeling happy to be around you. That might be a good place to start in that arena.

YOu also mentioned Ammo - that is a great all around product that will let the ladies know that you are interested. You could easliy pair that with A314 in the social and romance side. Read the thread in my signautre block for that one. Plus A314 is the ultimate work product. For work I often pair it with the IH I mentioned above.

Also - if you are married or in a LTR I have a thread in my signautre block that may give you some ideas on that also.

Hope some of this helps.

Hello Matt and welcome to the forums! Goodness me, you sure can turn a phrase when you want to. And if it makes you feel any better, i dont think you’re cheap and easy. :wink:

Now, pretty much any of these pheromone products arent going to be a “set it and forget it” kind of deal. There’s a saying around here that goes “10% pheromones, 90% you.” That means that you have to keep your eyes open and watch the body language of the people are you and act on any hits you might get with the pheromones. Probably the best product for that mentality would be Instant Shine, which gives off a “healthy glow” to the people around you and some find it boosts their confidence a bit too.

Now, i’m with you on the self objectives, but what did you want to leave better than you found it? Yourself? The forums? I’m a little confused here. Would you mind clarifying for me? Also, what kind of personality do you have, shy or outgoing? Where were you planning on wearing your pheromones (work, a pub, at home)? And who were you hoping to affect with them (friends, family, co-workers, women, yourself)? These questions will help us give you better advice, as well as get you a $25 gift certificate to the store here. All around a good deal, if i do say so myself. So let’s hear a bit more from you.

Welcome to the forum.

You’re going to have a good time here with the variety of products. If you’re not on a budget I suggest picking up one of each of the commercial products aimed at men. Many but not all are available in a smaller “to-go” size that is great for testing.

You will find a variety of effects possible. As mentioned above, you have less to worry about overdose, and people will in general be more tolerant with your odd “vibes” than they will for a younger man.

Prepare for an adventure!

Hello Welcome to Pherotalk :slight_smile:

Alrighty then :smiley: So what is your personality like ? I am guessing mildly outgoing, confident and intense. What do you think, is that close ?

Your objective self awareness and leaving the world a better place

I would go with Ishine and IO, maybe some IH to form deeper more meaningful connections.

Its hard to ssy with a more clear picture of what you want and what your personlity is like. Can you give us more on that ?

I am looking forward to your reply so I can send your GC out

Tisha

Thanks for the heads up on the IS, which fits my intention of self-enhancement and creating pleasant vibe.. About the age factor my libido remains as healthy as ever, which moves me to act to create more ease for socializing with eligible women. I think the standard recommendations or TUTH and ammo should be adequate. IH an IO round out the socials. I want to stir up my social life and stepping out with this tech certainly will make it even more interesting. My guess is that the strongest effect will be made by the highest volume product used. I’ll continue to read and ask around, for now I am curious about the putatives. The point of them is to extend/adjust the focus of the base product somehow, is that right? When does one do such tweaking, under what conditions or circumstances? Is the primary consideration to get used to the commercial product and tweak it as time passes? Am making my list and checking and checking. Thank you.

Yep. Self-improvement is a big thing to me and I intend for the changes to be transferred to all areas of my social and personal life. Trish nailed the personality basically, converse about everthing lousy at smalltalk, the IO is on the list. I actually tend to be a provacateur when I do get started, So the IO is more to tone that down and make light. The forums are going to be more in the way of improving me than the other way around. I’d definitely like to see some positive female attention more frequently, all work and no play…but general purpose is the easing of access in business and political areas. So three different target venues are the focus of my interest. In sum, I want to generate ‘attraction’, in the pua lingo, popularity and make some business connections. So having found out about these formulae, I have incentive to set out on the adventure. Guys just wanna have fun…

Hi Thanks for providing more information,

Now you should be fine with either TUTH for sexual attraction but keep in in mind this one is best used in certain environments. Clubs, Bars. Parties, dates, anywhere that the atmosphere is sexually charged.

If you dont hang in those environments much and prefer to meet women in other places I would say go with AMMO. This one is mildly arousing and you can use it anywhere. Not as in your face harsh as straight anone.

Next look at Ishine for a youthful charismatic warm uplifting vibe.

I suggest IH over IO for you. I like IO but its more fun Idle chatter, I find as I get older it annoys me LOL I prefer deeper more meaningful conversation that comes with IH. Its your call on that one.

I suggest since your over 40, you get AMMO in double. You will most likely wear a bit more then the 20 something set and this will insure you wont be over scented and its more cost effective for you.

You can do the same for IH and Ishine if you want but you dont have to. They dry down light. TUTH I would keep at 2.5

Your GC is on its way :smiley:

Tisha

Your GC is on its way :smiley:

Tisha

Thanks a bunch, and my order is about ready too, just checking size avails and such. Tweaking it so to speak. Question. I saw the 06 thread about gift packs and am wondering is a similar promo going on this year?

No, they havn’t announced a gift pack this year. You can check down in the store section of the forum for currant annoucements.

Tisha