Favorite A314 combos: which add-ons and how many drops change the effect?

If you could, please post your favorite A314 combinations here – with # of drops and/or spays used of all auxillary products.

Please include what you like about the effect, and how the additions used in your “combo” change the A314 effects in ways that benefit you.

hmm thats a tough one. ive tried it with IS, but still got the ‘distance’ effect.

i havent tried it with Spaceland tho, but I personally think, that should do it. maybe with a touch of IH (beta) to add to the tongue slipping…

I always use it with IS. I use a maximum of 3 drops, mostly 1 or 2. It’s powerfull stuff for someone my age.

Thanks for your feedback.

Powerful how?

And what’s different about the effect when you add IS?

A favorite mix of mine for a while was 2 drops of NPA, 2 Drops A314, and 12 inches of SOE. (should be similar to a IO+A314+TUTH mix). To me all three products just seemed to complement each others benefits, while buffering against their less desirable effects.

SOE created the social primer, while A314 added a sophisticated “umph” and buffered against the goofiness of alpha nol. NPA adds the sexual punch missing in both A314 and SOE, while both SOE and A314 buffer against the negative effects of the none.

Thanks for the feedback.

The word “was” makes me curious.

You got good, real life responses with this, or was it only a good mix “in theory”? :slight_smile:

When i don’t wear it with IS, co-workers only ask me for my advice/councelling. No social talk, unless i start/insist. I work at a callcenter, all of us are students and we are all equal.

Because I am a shy person myself i don’t like it to always start the conversation. In combination IS, i am once again a co-worker (lathough they still ask me for a lot of advice, there is enough social talk)

IS+a314 rocks for me in every combinations

The only thing I am afraid of is not to OD on mones(because i read this forum and i now what my max is) but to OD on smell, i am afraid all products combined smells to strong, therefor i use IO x2 (and use only 1 spray of it)

I simply got bored of the mix, and am now looking for something a little different (hence me ending up on these forums). This is, and probably always will be, a trusted mix for me though…something to bust out when I really want to see results. Its just a very none heavy mix, and I’m trying to find a really good mix that doesn’t focus so much on none.

It really is a mix that gets the attention of women around me, particularly at clubs, but it can create a sense of awkwardness and tension as well (too much focus on none). A314 and NPA are very ‘dark’ products and sometimes the mood is too serious, even with the presence of SOE. Its more appropriate for a club mix, or a second or third date, but not for everyday use. SOE+A314 (minus NPA) is a very good universal mix though.

I like 2 drops A314, 4 sprays IShine, 8-12" SOE, and 1 spray TE. Substitute androtics products at will; I just don’t have them yet. My original mix had pherlure and cops in it, but I think the Pherlure is just extra 'rone, and with A314 that’s unnecessary; and the cops I have is apparently ineffective.

I notice I become very interesting to the ladies with this mix. I get a lot of looks, smiles, “Come talk to me” responses, and even some who initiate conversation. It’s sophisticated, sexy, communicative, and magnetic.

3 A314, 3 Is, 3 Io

My favorite workday combination is 3 drops a314 with 4 sprays IS. When I have meetings that require that I tone down the a314 I add 3-4 sprays of CTTMv2 spread on my arms.

I have experimented with the rogue (white cap) a314 using two drops in the same combo. Seems to work better with the men at work, but less effective with the women.

Just starting to play with mixing IO and IH with this combo. Since I know a314+IS really well on me at this point, I have been playing with the -none 6-pack both in the day and the evening. I will post on these bad boys soon. (Having problems getting my blog working…)

I drop the a314 during the weekend and have been experimenting with PMX100 during the off time.

I shower off the mones every day and hope there isn’t too much residue to deal with - but I have sometimes noticed a -none odor being there the next day after showering.

– TB

I’m trying to see why people like the additions they’re using with A314.

So what does adding Instant Shine to A314 do for you you like better than straight A314?

Or let’s put it this way:

Would you ever find it detrimental if some amount of Shine or the other additions you like were incorporated into future versions of A314?

It’s always a challenge to improve on a classic.:smiley:

I always want the feel of the combo, but based on what I have been learning during my testing process the molecules may have a slightly differently effect diffusing from an oil vs a spray. I wonder if IS’s (TAA?) rapid diffusion rate effects the range at which it is detected and the intensity. I think it would.

The a314 response feels like social positioning on a more subtle level, while IS feels like it supports the social costuming that goes with the a314 body/persona.

Using that metaphor it makes sense that I feel that I should use IS every time that I use a314. I used a314 for a few months before looking for your web site to see what else you might be working on and if I remember correctly IS was one of the first purchases from your online store. At the time I was also regularly using SOE, TE, b-nol, and A1. IS with a314 felt to be a more complete mix for the use cases I was envisioning. I wouldn’t have any problem with the addition of IS to a314.

The primary molecule of IS seems to be a common mix component that many want to increase.

There might be a psychological effect on me from applying a more diffusive mix layered on an oil. It would be interesting to have two test mixes, one an oil and one a spray, to test for that. Or blind test one version containing IS vs one that doesn’t.

–TB

Similar to Cloud9 - 2 drops A314, 2 IO and 2 IS. Just works great as an all rounder.

try adding 30 mu of P79 to your A314 mix per application

P79 is pretty cool energy… has a low slung authority and lots of confidence… its’ sound bite is “stay on track” … while the track you’re on will depend on other…emmmm… establishing factors

and I’m beginning to wonder about the possibilites of P78…

I’ve been using the A-314 (“mutant” this round) as a base for my mixes. I like the “sophisticated Alpha” effect it provides. Then I add a bit of NPA as ~None replacement therapy", and this is my basic daily mix. Next comes the “tweaks” depending on my desired outcome. Add some CS ~Nol, IS, or SoE for a “social” mix, beef up the NPA or add some P-79 for an “intimidation” factor when dealing with “power people”. Perhaps add some A-1 (either the CS version or your spray version-I like your spray better ) and CS ~Nol when I’m going out with a woman, later in the relationship kick in some Ammunition to warm things up a bit. (Got to think about getting some TUTH sometime). So mostly I find the A-314 is a very valuable “base” to build the various effects on.

Wondering about possible A314ish diffuser bases

we’ve kicked around a few ideas for an oily or viscous binder… maybe A314 itself establishes a good baseline pheromone product so we don’t have to start from scratch with each mix…

Since A314 works as well as it does in this capacity, two refinements come to mind:

  1. improve the carrier base… this problem keeps cosmetic chemists awake at night.. how do you achieve the perfect texture, skin feel, diffusion, wash off behavior… are there high end cosmetic solutions possible ? The sunscreen people (neutrogena) have worked hard to make non-sticky high SPF sunblocks that feel quite pleasant on the skin, none of the old familiar gummy, gloppy annoyance of sunscreen… howzabout a more cream density product … some dudes who call themselves Campo Research offer:

“Exclusive Biotechnology True human skin identical ceramides are now available as clear, colourless free-flowing novel liquids, in oil or water soluble forms ( molecular cloned and extracted from olive fruit cells) from Campo Research, but an elusive and enigma to fermentation obtained wax like vegetal ceramide suppliers.”

Hmmmm… ceramides.. a subclass of the glycosphingolipid family, often bandied about in the cosmetic industry… a large molecule, perhaps good for binding and stabilizing pheromones:

“This systematic although preliminary approach indicated that these compounds do have a considerable impact on human skin physiology, justifying further research to clarify their potential use in human cutaneous health.”

So… do they drag pheromones deep into the skin, or do they just hold them close to the surface with an electrical charge while they slowly dissapate ?..

but then, this fascinating tidbit about the liquid crystal properties of human dermal ceramides:

“This means that at physiological temperatures, the lipid chains are mostly in a solid crystalline or gel state, which exhibits low lateral diffusional properties and is less permeable than the state of liquid crystalline membranes, which are present at higher temperatures. The link between skin disorders and changes in barrier lipid composition, especially in ceramides, is difficult to prove because of the many variables involved. However, most skin disorders that have a diminished barrier function present a decrease in total ceramide content with some differences in the ceramide pattern. Formulations containing lipids identical to those in skin and, in particular, some ceramide supplementation could improve disturbed skin conditions. Incomplete lipid mixtures yield abnormal lamellar body contents, and disorder intercellular lamellae, whereas complete lipid mixtures result in normal lamellar bodies and intercellular bilayers. The utilization of physiological lipids according to these parameters have potential as new forms of topical therapy for dermatoses. An alternative strategy to improving barrier function by topical application of the various mature lipid species is to enhance the natural lipid-synthetic capability of the epidermis through the topical delivery of lipid precursors.”

Possible value here, no ?

  1. Since A314 may become the standard base for further developments, perhaps it could be made in different -none strengths, like low and mellow if you want to add a lot of putatifs, standard, and maybe high octane if you want to drop in your -nols, entactogens, or you just want to go out and raise hell…

Hi guys. I’m new to Androtics. But, I have been using pheromones for 2 years.

I recently purchased A314 mutant and Spaceland. In the package,there was a surprise gift. Thanks MHarris. Although I was tempted to mix all three, the first time, I opted to try A314 mutant. alone. I applied two drops(one on each side of neck). I went to sing Karaoke at the Fox and Hound pub and restaurant. I saw a woman(Lee) I had met one time previously. She was a good looker. And, the woman she was with (Irene)was even hotter.I stood, for a few minutes, talking to them. Then, the fun started. Irene stood up and said “Let me find you a chair”. I told her I’d get one. She said “No no no. I’ll get it for you”. And, she hurried off, to look for one (the pub was crouded). I can’t remember, the last time this happened (if ever). I was watching Irene running aroung, looking for a chair. Then Lee says “Do you need a Karaoke book”? I told her I’d find one. She jumped up and said “Oh no.I’ll find one for you”. At that point, I thought “What the hell is going on”??? The A314 Mutant. I had totally forgotten. This behavior continued until I left, 2 hours later. It was like “they couldn’t do enought for me”. I’ve used most of the top brands of pheromones, for the last two years. I’ve tried all kinds of mixes. I wish I could say “Women wait on me, hand and foot, all the time”…But, I can’t, because they don’t.

The following Saturday, I applied A314, 2 drops(neck), and Instant Shine, 3 sprays(neck). I took my best friend(with benefits)dancing. I was approached by three women, at different times, while I was with my date. One of them even asked me to dance. My date was beside herself.

But, even more bizzare…my own behavior. Though I’m usually reserved, after about an hour, I found myself dancing, solo, in the middle of a large circle of people. Women took turns, dancing with me, in the circle. My date(we’ve been dating 4 years, off and on), was totally pissed off. I did apologize to her :slight_smile: and made it up to her, later that night.

So far: A314 Mutant(2 drops to neck) and Instant Shine(3 sprays to neck) is my favorite mix. I’m going to work with Spaceland, soon.:slight_smile:

That’s about what I concluded - 2 drops A314 and 3 sprays Instant Shine. Only, I usually apply the AA314 to my forearms to “get it out there”,but I think maybe I should tryapplying it to myneck for the improved confidence benefits.

My way of application of a314 sorta does both areas. I apply a drop to my wrist/forearm area a then wipe on neck. Then do other arm. Gets both spots with no waste.

Shine and/or other products (if used) then go on.

Planning a a314, IShine, IH, IFM combo soon for a special “talk” I hope to have with someone… (2,2,2,2 probably as I don’t want to OD).