First use problems - smell and application to clothes

Hi, I’ve tried Instant Shine mixed with Instant Honesty (2 sprays of each) in public (bus stops etc.) and I’ve got many reactions - women have noticed me but they have seemed very nervous (they need to “scratch” themselves all over ther bodies) and many of them have taken defensive posture (while still noticing me). Is this reaction normal ? What they actually felt when they had the need to scratch themselves ?

I thought it could be because of I overdosed it or because I mixed IShine an IH in wrong ratio (1:1). What is the best ratio of mixing IShine and IH together ?

Another problem (for me personally) is smell. When I applied it to skin, it smelled well, but after about 4 hours it began to smell horribly and for rest of the time I felt very aggravated. I 've also tried apply 2 sprays of IS to my shirt and it has almost no smell at all on it (compared to very aggressive smell on the skin), but it had very limited effectiveness in range (compared to when used on skin).
Is it normal that smell (on skin) is very aggressive and changes over time ?

What destroys pheromones (IShine, IO, IH) ? I mean when I use it to clothes where are no skin chemicals and it evaporate much slowly - will be the total “energy” (square = intesity*time) of pheromones the same as if they were applied to skin or would it be considerably less effective?

Thank You.

Scratching is apparently an IOI, its a primal thing to show the need to be groomed, a hard wired evolutionary response as Mystery calls it.
As for the smell changing over time, I “think” I’ve read that androstenol (in the IH) converts into androstenone after so many hours, I could be corrected here. That would explain the change in smell because none isnt pleasant, and its definitely aggressive.
I’d have thought that applying it to clothes there will be a fair amount of the spray that will be absorbed by the fabric and will have a hard time diffusing into the air so there’s be less “actively working” pheromones. I dont know that for sure but it makes sense.

Scratching/fidgeting and defensive behaviour is indeed a possible hit. :slight_smile: Even if its not exactly the hit you want. You can’t acccount for all good responses.

You don’t mix the pheros together - You layer one spray over the other, allowing a little time for the first to dry down before applying the second. That way, proportions are easily variable.

Application to clothes is possible but IME, unless you are in a hot place that promotes diffusion, you will need a much higher dose to get the same effect as skin application.

Yes, smell can be an issue - The nols in IH will break down to a variety of smelly compounds in time. This is influenced by a number of factors, including temp, humidity and exposure to sweat. Applying over a little moisturiser or lotion can slow this significantly and extend the activity of pheros.

Also remember that smell is a subjective thing and people display a wide range of sensitivity - including you, so that is less of a problem than you may think.

Its true scratching is like fidgeting. People do it when they are nervous without even noticing. Some people get nervous when they see someone they find attractive. So this can be hit.

However the defense pose is not a hit. Can you describe it to me ?

You really cant OD on Ishine or IO not in the same sense as anone products. You can wear so much that you stink but you were no where near that theshold.

You notice the smell because its foreign to your own smell. Since its occurring after 4 hours you may be getting some bacterial conversion. We all have coryneform bacteria present on our skin. Some people have more then others. It doesn’t mean your dirty or anything. Try using anti bacterial soap in the shower. Sometimes that helps.

Lotion even under the mones tends to slow diffusion. Its worth a try though.

Tisha

By defence I mean, they had noticed me (it was obvious they knew i was there) (2 completely unrelated women in 2 places in different times)
and one of them turn her back to me and cross her hands (but continued to scratch), another woman turn her body and feet toward me but crossed her hands and looked away.

Maybe I haven’t described it properly because of my english.

IME defensiveness can be a sort of hit - Usually with people who don’t know you and don’t want to get to know you despite their reactions.

I’ve encountered it quite often.

I am wondering what those women could felt in that moment… or what they were thinking about (generally)…
does it mean they uncounsciously (scratching, posture toward me) felt attraction but logic said no … or what was going on ? I am man and I just don’t understand this (it’s not important for me to understand that, but maybe if I would, I could get better results or at least I will not “torture” woman’s feelings). Does any woman here experienced it on herself ?