hello,
I am a mid twenties male in california, I have never tried pheromones before but I am going to make a mass order of the travel sizes from Androtics. I plan on buying a larger bottle of instant shine though.. Is instant shine a kind I can use everyday and for work and college? I am a little older and I am in college and I am having a little trouble connecting with a lot of these younger girls. I am not sure if I have an older look or what. I cant decide between A314 larger bottle or the Instant Shine lager bottle as part of my order, Does anyone have any suggestions for a first timer? Also, what does the instant shine smell like? Are there any good products on amazon.com or is all the good stuff on Androtics?
thanks
Hi there,
Thats cool that your taking the plunge and making a big order.You may want to take a look at the beginners pack though if your getting a lot because it works out cheaper in the long run.Can check out the details below.
NEWBIES READ HERE: The Ultimate Pheromone Introduction Pack
Instant shine is definitely a pretty good one and can be used everyday.Instant gentleman may also be a good one to consider since it seems to make younger guys appear older and older guys appear younger from what ive heard.Its a pretty good standalone anyway to use at work and college and isn’t intimidating like A314 so you wont scare of the younger girls.(><)Your not actually that old though so it will probably give you more of a cool alpha vibe which younger girls tend to like.You might want to try some instant openness otherwise to appear less intimidating to them and get them talking to you.Dont think A314 would be that useful for your situation but you may find good results with it.Try the small bottle though and see if you like it first though(^^)Instant shine is neroli scent,pretty mild and easy to cover.Not that noticeable once it dries down.Hmm,on amazon.NPA and the edge are pretty good but they are pretty far on the sexual side.Not good for work and college(:-p)All the best and dont hesitate to ask if you want to know anything.
awesome thank you very much
Hi ferucci, I’d recommend IShine, for sure. It does get me a youthful, friendly vibe about me, though, of course, you’ll need to smile. 
A314 would be a bit TOO serious for college, especially how younger aged people will perceive you. More of a Serious, Clint Eastwood, almost a fear me, vibe. You’ll have to be in congruence of that, but I can see how, possibly, IG would be a better replacement for the respect vibe, if that’s what you want out of A314.
Though, my thought would be more of an AMMO with IShine, and if the AMMO is too much sexy fun guy vibe, then, use IShine and IO to get the convo’s flowing, comfortably with you. AMMO, as the other mones mentioned, can be steered by you and your attitude, dress, and personality.
Neroli, the scent base of IShine and IO, in both of these is @ 6% cologne strength. AMMO is more of a regular cologne strength of @ 20% scent, though that is FF21, a bit like Green Irish Tweed cologne.
How’d ya find this site, BTW?
this site is awesome. i just order the newb package and I have a party saturday night to try all this out on, pretty excited. thank you
ill post how it goes.
Haha,good luck.Bet your going to have fun at the party(^_^)
Welcome to pherotalk Ferrucci!
I agree that for a younger crowd Shine is definitely gonna attract more attention than A314.
You also want to try out IG instead of A314 as you will be more approachable and generally just add to your coolness even if you are older.
Let us know what happened when you tried these
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Hello and welcome to the forum.
Do not use the A314 for school. It will give off a successful dad type vibe. So unless they have dadddy issues you will be out of luck.
Youe best bet for school is IG. It will give you a cool, smooth, calm vibe. And that in turn will soften any Clint Eastwood effect you may have going plus make you seem a little younger. It sounds like this is what you need. Then maybe throw in some Io and IShine and you will be set.
Depending on what you do for work A314 might work there. My favorite work combo is A314 & IH. A314 will give you the alpha leader vibe but it can come across pretty strong for some people. The IH helps soften that as it generates feelings of connection and trust. So you are the alpha leader everyone is drawn to and trusts. Very nice effect. If you are in sales it can work wonders.
I really like instant shine and honesty. It smells really good. I am still playing around a little. Today i am trying some shine, ammo, and open. Nothing much so far. I tried the turn u the heat last night on my friend and she didn’t respond at all… She told me that smell clean randomly but no sexiness at all… Normally we are really physical but last night we were not at all. Oh well the shine is awesome. Tomorrow I’ll try. Gentleman. But shine and honesty had the best smell and I’m not sure of any true effects yet.. I trying to be objective and not let any placebo sweep me away, regardless… The shine is good stuff. Thank you.
There are some threads on here about the pill interfering with TUTH. That could be why she didn’t respond.
still not sure why she didnt respond. I did try out some instant jerk while around her and then we kinda didnt get along and she left and was really hurt by my very normal attitude… how funny I was completely normal but she got super defensive and quiet.. Then when she left it was sad but the next day when we talked she was still really hurt that she left and was really confused about my attitude but didnt know how to describe it. since then i think ive figured out how to use it. Works well on women that dont know me like at the supermarket or something they smile big… like WTF… some girl was with her man while they were doing laundry and I was moving my clothes… i looked up and she locked eyes with me and smiled big… I thought wtf is going on… its great. men dont like it for sure.. even if you are a really nice person men get really funny and start wearing their ego on their sleeve. very wild experience. shine/a314/ammo is just beautiful though. great confidence and people seem excited when you talk to them. women are very nice and respectful.. a woman at fed ex tried being bitchy to me today but then wound up explaining herself and trying to be really nice in the end without me really doing anything out of the ordinary. I absolutely love it. It just seems to make people think more clearly about how to treat you as another person.. and their is nothing wrong with tuning people into the polite frequency. seems like i must already produce lots of none because the softeners really open people up to me while the none products really take women on a ridiculous ride and men despise me like to wear they feel uncomfortable themselves. I love this stuff.. everyday is a social experiment. I feel like an invisible social ninja.
It sounds to me like you OD’d on none around her - An important thing to remember is that younger women tend to not respond so well to high-none as older women (although you do get the odd exception), it is very likely she found the none overbearing and edgy and quite at odds with your personality. Then you hit her with IJ - Which has five times the none content of Ammo and TUTH - Byee! 
Other bad responses you can get when wearing high/overt none and just hanging out can include getting testy, fidgety and yes, cowering before a seemingly very aggressive personality - A much lighter more social mix with just a hint of sexuality is usually far better there. Save the overt none for when you are in clubs, partying or somewhere you can fully demonstrate attractive behaviours alongside it.
How about the women who responded well to you wearing IJ - Were they older? If so, this is because an older woman is far more likely to respond well to overt none than a younger one - Mid 20s is often the turning point but it does keep on increasing as they age.
Similarly, time of the month and the pill do play a part and a woman on her period is far more likely to respond badly to none than when she is not. So its a good idea to keep an eye out for the telltale signs that she might be on her cycle if you can. 
definitely. It was bad news. BUt still a learning experience thank you