Going to China Monday....

Hey all long time no see.

I am gonig to China for a business trip for an entire month.

I wanted to ask what you guys recommend for attraction over there.

I’ve been to southeast asia, and CTTM worked great, tho it didn’t break many barriers, it broke a lot more than expected, but the Chinese culture is a little bit more reserved.

What do you guys recommend for a Black American/Norwegian mix male, seeking to attract and break the shyness of the Chinese women?

By default I am going to get stares, and also shyness and lots of curiosity, however Chinese people (my friend has been ther for 5 years) tend to be less expressive, and the women tend to be more reserve than lets say…Brazil.

So, I obviously don’t want to scare them with -none. so what do you guys think I should use and MODS is it possible to get these bottles to me by Monday?

Thanks in advance~

IG. And play the part of a gentleman, at least at first. Your differences will be enough to add the element of intrigue.

I have to agree Instant Gentlemen will give you a aura of respect and will make you more approachable. And it also gives out that cool confident charisma making you more charming when you interact with the ladies.

And as you will be a foreigner and a guest in China you may come across as intimidating to the local ladies. I would go with Instant gentlemen for the charm and been approachable and instant shine to help make the girls feel good in your presence.

Hope you have a great trip, I myself have always liked oriental girls. :slight_smile:

what do you guys think about A314? like one drop and some cologne?

btw. I have a small bottle of IG and IShine mixed together in a to go bottle. Not sure if it will last me a month, but we shall see…

For the business side of things you cannot get better than A314 but if you are mainly seeking to have some fun with the local ladies I would lay off the A314. The Chinese are a class conscious people and A314 could make you to good and respectable to be approached in a social scene.

As you are a foreigner you do not want the extra hurdle of been unapproachable. Some people though can make A314 work in any situation but they tend to be very experienced in handling the reactions they get.

Cool thanks. Plus I have IG already so that’s a plus. BINGO!

Good luck!

Been here for 2+ years, check out the first post in my journal(in my signature) which has 33 tips (actively updating) which were all developed here in Shanghai.

Which part of China are you going to?

overall the mix i choose for business related matters is A314(x2-4) + IS(x1-3). This hands down has helped me nail 100% of my interviews. seriously, i’m on a roll. they just seem to think I am the most wonderful thing they have ever seen.

with girls, I stick to socials like IS and IO. IH doesn’t work quite as well as you think it might, but i have still seen some effects. I tend to add A314, but in low doses

None products are preeeeetty much useless. you can try if you like, but i can’t promise anything. if you do keep the doses super low and pair them with p83.

overall, keep a smile on your face and be super friendly (without being try hard) and the chinese locals will love you.

I will be in Chengdu and Kunming.

Seems like you’re leaning more toward A314, seems logical. I mean by default they’re already going to be less expressive than the west or latin america, so I guess the next step is attracting thru DHV?

Guess its a matter of which is better…IG or A314. hmmmmmm

IG is a bit less bold as A314 so i’ll bring both, problem is, I only have 3/4 to go bottle left of IG. and I don’t know if the mods ever got this thread. I can finish a to go bottle in a week. =/

Shanghai is brash and cosmopolitan. Sort of the New York City of China. You’ll find some cultural differences in Chengdu and Kunming. Values will be more traditional than Shanghai, although still changing, just not as quickly. The low-key approach will most probably be more appreciated.

There’s an interesting ethnic park in Kunming that is worth your while. The temples and carved caverns on the Western Mountain are also spectacular and interesting. The stone forest is not too far away and is renowned throughout China for its beauty.

yep you are correct. that is why im thinking IG is probably better to use than the powerful A314.

and also A314 contains a little -none, which my natural -none in itself will be bold, so I want to smoothen my natural signature while giving me warmth. Tho techincally speaking being a foriegner (ive been to many countries) and standing out like a sore thumb, I usually don’t need pheromones (I use CTTM abroad but really its cologne more than anything lol), curiousity usually gets people to befriend me. however unlike lets say, a latin country like Venezuela or Brazil or west european country like Italy or Spain, the women in China are harder to read. They can be timid. One min you think she’s not interested, next thing you notice she entered her number into your cell while you were letting her see your phone.

Its just weird. Im not used to it, so Im basically looking for a pheromone that will draw attraction and BOLDNESS from them…

I dont like playing the guessing game lol.

While in kunming, if you have some time to travel, check out XiShuangBaNa and/or LiJiang. both are in Yunnan and very pretty.

Indeed, the old southern silk road town of LiJiang is quite beautiful. A stream is diverted through canals in the town. Lots of little shops and streetside cafes to lounge around in.

If you’re traveling around Yunnan Dali and Shangrila (formerly Zhongdian) are also worth visiting.

Stone Forest is really awesome. You should really check it out. Lots of different ethnicities of chinese out there. The locals out in stone forest have a really interesting dating/marriage method. The park there is just amazing. Pictures CANNOT accurate describe the beauty of that place. It just has to be seen in person. There’s also an artist/painter/calligrapher up in stone garden. His work is pretty decent. An actual artist and not an imitator. I’m not sure if he’s still around as he was pretty old and I went like 4 years ago.

My suggestions for your trip:
A314: not even a drop. Just like 1/2 if you can when using it. I suggest this because its in oil form and it lasts longer.

Instant Shine 4x STR

Instant Openness

MX200 has worked really well for me with Asians in general, but between Chinese and Korean, I would say my results tend to work slightly better with Chinese.

MX292 can work really well also. Just keep in mind, there is a small population that can smell the -none.

IFM if you have any. Just keep in mind that some people have had great success with this, while others have not. In my opinion, it helps a little for getting them to feel more comfortable around you.

For the whole “boldness” thing, I think you’d just have to establish really good rapport. From the cities you’ve mentioned so far, they’re not as western or populated like HK or Shanghai (well duh, obviously) so they’re not as likely to be as forward.

Which cities are you heading to? HK is humid as fuck during this time of year, but it has some of the best food around and really a fun place to be.

From the description of yourself, expect a LOT of stares in some of the less populated areas like well… kumming. If you go to a “touristy” area in some of these areas, don’t be surprised if a group of random chinese people ask to take a picture with you. LOL.

Generally though, like Perronec said, keep a smile on your face and be natural and at ease and they will too. And yea, Yunnan is a beautiful place. If it were winter, I’d suggest Harbin. They have an amazing winter festival.

I know of a few more places, but unfortunately, whenever I visit China, I never really pay attention to the name of the city or care to remember it.