So I go to the gym everyday and trying to make friends. I’ve been going for more than a year and pretty much keep to myself and don’t talk to anyone. I’m not antisocial. I use come talk to me and instant openness but to no avail. If I can just get past the hello I’d be fine. I’m a great conversationalist. Just the hello I need help with any suggestions? I get plenty of looks without pheromones. I just want people to approach me and not just look haha. Also I’m gay. But not worried about trying to go that far if I can’t even make friends.
Here’s a list of what I have
List:
Instant openness 2x
Instant shine 2x
Turn up the heat regular
Ammo blue summer edition regular
Mystery boy
Instant honest 2x
P79 5mcg
Come talk to me
P135 5mcg
P83 25mcg
A314 1.32A
P74 25mcg
Anyone??? I’ve read multiple post and threads but I still need more opinions and advice.
IO and CTTM contain A-Nol which converts to None when exposed to the bacteria found in sweat. Did you work up a sweat? The socials might have turned to none.
Try a high dose of IS.
I don’t really sweat ever at the gym. Not really a sweater but I get a good workout. I might perspirate a little. But not to the point were it’s actually sweat. That barely happens then. I tried in class 2 sprays of ammo 1 of mystery boy and 2 of instant shine. Everyone was more jokey. But I may need to add a spray of a314
I’ve always done quite nicely with something social/pleasant and slightly sexy at the gym.
I know received wisdom favours strong status and status/sexual mixes but IME gyms are pretty Androstenone/Androsterone-rich environments and sometimes something that signals a difference from the norm can help spark interest more easily - esp if you are already good at talking to people.
Also, if its is a reasonably busy gym, you will have a good turnover of potential subjects, so its also a good environment to test a variety of mixes to see what works best for you. 
I’m good talking to people. Just not the type to randomly go up to people to talk unless I know you. But that’s what I’m trying to change. I know I can’t depend on pheromones 100%. But I just need help with opening the door then I can take it from there.
I’m currently wearing 3 sprays of IO. 2 of IS. 1 ammo and 2 cttm. Is that too much?
Also please feel free to talk amongst yourself to discuss what your mixes are as well. I want to hear anything no matter how small it is
One thing to consider when wearing any type of pheromone while working out is that as your body temperature heats up, the burn off accelerates as well, meaning you will see increased effect from smaller doses, but the longevity of the pheromone decrease in return.
Less is more, is what I’m trying to get a here. Even 1 drop of A314 shows dramatic effects for me when I am heating up during physical exercise, whereas I would normally wear 2 or 3 drops during normal daily wear.
So wear less instead? I wore more than usual at the gym yesterday. Still the normal casual looks I would get without pheromones.
One thing Id like to ask is if you notice ant self effects with IS?
Yes but I also put a314 on as well. A314 under my neck and 2 sprays of instant shine one on each side. A314 makes me feel more alert and focused. Instant shine makes me wake right up and a bit more talkative and feel good
What kind of reactions are you expecting from other people when you wear pheromones?
Would you say you are socially savvy and good at picking up on non-verbal cues and micro-expressions from your surroundings?
Is this alongside your IO/CTTM2?
I want people to come to me first and talk I’m not good at that. But I am socially savvy after that and can hold a really good conversation.I don’t use io or cttm. The one I listed is for work the a314 and IS
Well, I find that when I make an effort to get eye contact with people, smile warmly and say: ‘Hi!’ most respond by smiling and greeting me back.
You shouldn’t need more than 2-3 sprays of CTTM or IO to see an increase in friendly interactions PROVIDED you follow the above protocol of smiling and greeting everybody.
I need to start greeting people. I just look at them and they look haha. Which do you recommend for my situation io or cttm?