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I’ve found it gets counterproductive well over 90/100mcg. Others have taken it a lot further but as far as I can see, huge doses of P83 don’t so much OD, rather they disinhibit to the point of inactivity - subjects lose all inclination to do anything more than just sit around you in a slight daze.
Other than smell, you can use 20-80mcg doses to great effect, depending on what you use them beside. Smaller suits social/substantially social mixes, whilst larger suits more high status/overt/aggressive mixes better.
I find i can handle about 10 mcg now quite well. then after about 1 hr or more I apply another spray of 10 mcg is needed. I just can’t stand 30 mcg all at once as it has given me bad reactions from day 1.
I wore 10 mcg out today with good effect. A lot of people were smiles and those who welcomed me and are usually cheerful were extra happy and these were guys.. unfortunately the guitar store I went into didn’t have any cute salesladies there tonight.
What is the reaction of OD?
That depends on the phero - I’ve described what I’ve found with P83 above. Its difficult to OD on this one as it has such a wide dose range but it does get wasteful/counterproductive after a certain point.
Also
None - Ghosting, aggression and triggering aggressive/confrontational behaviour, coming-off as creepy/too horny.
Nol - increasingly bright/bubbly/conversational then a short term tired/drained/headachy feeling.
Rone - Unapproachable, “too good,” fatherly/fuddy-duddy vibe, not cuddly and people around you (bosses and the like) can get scared for their jobs.
Plus many others.
Ah ok. I was talking about P83. So it was a sight of daze. because it just seem like people were afraid to talk, or were waiting for me to talk, it was weird. I couldn’t really talk either (and im quite social) so people kept asking me “is something wrong?” and im like no, not at all, feel free to engage. I also wore it with L2K, which should also melt the physical wall, but again, there just seemed to be a ‘stall’. Lot of stalling when I wear the 2 these past few days.
I sprayed 37mcg which isn’t much, I’ve read that 40+ is whats ideal, but in this thread you guys are saying 20-80? basically I have 7.5mcg spray, and I’ve been spraying it about 5 times sometimes 6.
Mix it with beta androstenol or instant honesty. I literally (And I found it shocking) had someone very close to my heart admit something to me they otherwise would NEVER NEVER EVVEEER profess so carelessly. Admission ones promiscuous sexual frequency abroad standing the wrong set of chromosomes, ever the cultural vernaculars double standard embrace. She has become rather blunt, and how I do fancy individuals great of honesty. I’m bonding with someone of damaged empathy, installed via poor childhood circumstance. This is my favorite combination=P83@20mcg&Beta Androstenol@25-100mcg. Just wow!
Can p83 give any good effects at very LOW dosages? Anyone try 5 mcg or max 10 mcg?
Yup, alongside social mixes or as a steering component, 5/10mcg is a perfectly viable quantity and that kind of amount has been used in some released MX formulas.
Interesting. I’ve been digging back into some of the earliest posts from 2006, when many of these products were in their infancy. I have a working theory that ANOL , BNOL (includes IH and IO ), P75 , P83 and, to a lesser extent (possibly) TAA (includes IS somewhat) decrease inhibitions, barriers, etc.–be they vocal, touching or physical space. I apply this to females, especially blondes. The effects on males can be markedly different.
Caveat: I have not yet personally tested P83, but numerous reports from others I think support this idea. That’s why I want to test it.
Wore p83 at 1 spray (10 mcg) with IS AMMO and noticed one thing.. My SO was furious at me. She would fight at every chance. It just made her mood worse.
I recall in very early posts on this putative that p83 enhances mood be it negative or positive.
Where are all these I want to reach out and touch you stories coming from? P83 never gets me that it gets me either loathing or others rather angry at me.
D, I read lots of your post, and sometimes, I just wonder if it’s just you. I just read somewhere about being able to harness the effects of what you wear, and I’m just GUESSING, but that might be your problem. Have you given that a thorough thought?
For one week, just wear what you wear and go! BE FUN! ACT THE PART. JUST DO IT!
I reserve all rights to be wrong. 
I still have a couple bottles of Spaceland. From time to time, I’ll pherobomb on purpose and see what happens. Most of the time people aren’t in tune enough to know where a scent is coming from, so coffee shops are cool…and everyone is packed in tight.
I overdose on that and also Instant Honesty 4x. I do like 6 sprays of that on the wrists.
Yowza. Spaced out…and talkative. It get’s interesting. lol
Ok, back to your reg scheduled programming. 
I do find P83 to bring-on a different sort of daze to the Spaceland type effect, and to an extent the other mones will influence the mood/feel.
P83 and high dose IH is an interesting one. Done that quite a bit back in the days of the 4x spray - I never failed to get into very intimate (often to the point of TMI) territory with that.
I’d have to agree with Mobcaster and bodomslayer the recipe I typically use has had some VERY interesting effects on people …part of the mixture is P83, IH, and IO… the recipe is in my journal but all I can say is WOW!!!