Hello all. I am new to this pheromone thing. I am of average looks and build so attracting women is somewhat of an uphill battle for me. I have been lurking for awhile and doing some research. About a month ago, I ordered Turn Up The Heat. I understand that it probably wasn’t the best choice for a beginner, however it was the cheapest pheromone I could find and I didn’t want to invest too much since I had already fallen for the Pherlure scam about a year ago.
Turn Up The Heat has not worked as advertised for me. It has had no effect whatsoever on women. I have tried with just 1 spray on my neck/chest and also with another half-spray on my wrists. I have also tried semi-ODing with 2 sprays with no noticeable difference. However, this product has been useful to me in another big way. I have a real dick of a boss. He’s a real passive-aggressive tool. I’ve been wearing this stuff to work (I know..big no-no, but I only tried it in the interest of experimentation). This stuff has completely transformed my boss to the point where he is almost SUBMISSIVE to me. I’ve been wearing it to work on a semi-regular basis for the past 3 weeks. On the days I wear it, he leaves me alone. On the days I don’t wear it, he slave-drives me and needlessly rides my ass all day long. Does anyone have any experience/feedback regarding this?
Anyway, despite the Turn Up The Heat having no effect on women, I consider it a success and I will continue to wear it to work for obvious reasons. I have read quite a bit on these forums and I’ve been intrigued with A314 so I ordered that recently. I can’t wait for it to get here so I can see what kind of effects that will have, although I don’t expect it to work exactly as advertised due to my experience with Turn Up The Heat. I am also intrigued with Ammo and I plan on ordering that as well if all goes well with the A314.
Anyway, while I have done my homework, I am still new to this whole thing so any feedback or advice will be greatly appreciated.
Are you in a relationship and using Turn up the Heat? That one is mostly recommended for using in intimate situations, it won’t make women jump your bones with out some effort on your part. Ammo, instant shine and instant honesty would be much better choices socially.
Though I would say intimidating your boss into getting off your case with androstenone is a great result too.
Glad to hear that you have already had some success with Turn Up The Heat and that you are thinking about A314 and Ammo. I have all three products and do well with them.
No - it probably isn’t. IAs Inlking alluded to, I and others have found that it is so straight up that it works best when things are moving in that direction or in a pre-existing relationship - as I use it with my wife. It does not generate desire or sexual feelings where none existed. What it does is ramp up your signature so that someone who has those feelings for you will respond.
Several of the women users have alluded to or outright stated just this: Turn Up The Heat is so strong that it can actually push women away as it seems to cause you to come on too strong - saying I want sex with you now. That is probably not the signal you want to send to a girl you don’t know or have that level of relationship with. The ladies here (Tisha & others) have outright said that a signal like that from someone they don’t know or have that level of relationship with actually pushes them away rather then draws them in. This is probably what happened to you.
Ammo and the social products (Instant Shine, Instant Openness, Instant Honesty) are better suited to help you start creating those feelings of attraction. And remember - they help you do that, not do it for you. They ramp you up - but the real work is always up to you. A lot of very experienced people will tell you it is 90% you, 10% pheromones. Like Inkling said, nothing here is going to make anyone ump you. The pheromones merely help assist your social efforts.
See above.
Then it does work as advertised - it ups your 'none signature potentially marking you as an alpha. It just did not have the effect you wanted with women. Again see above.
Ahem.
It will have pretty much the same effect on your boss once you find the right dose except there will be more of a respect vibe than fear. But it can also keep a certain distance between you and others. This is a product I use daily.
I think you should go ahead and order it with the A314. I think you will find it better at helping you create the attraction you were looking for with the Turn Up The Heat. Ammo is much better buffered and although the level of 'none is the same, because it is buffered it is tolerated much better.
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I am sorry to hear that turn up the heat didn’t work well for you women. At least it helps you at work But don’t be disappointed, there are tons of great products.
A314 should also help at your work, with only positive effects.
Social products will work on pratically everyone. Instant shine will make everyone happy. Instant honesty will get deeper conversations. Instant openness will let more chatting happens.
Thank you everyone for some pretty insightful responses. I hope it didn’t come across that I was bashing Turn Up The Heat because its certainly turned out to be a useful product for me. I can see that I wasn’t using it in the right situations, although I haven’t necessarily driven any women away, I have just noticed no change in their behavior towards me.
Bosshank, I completely understand what you are saying. I know that the pheros aren’t going to do all of the work for me. I don’t look at them as a crutch, I’m looking at them as a door-opener and it looks like Ammo fits the bill in these situations and I probably will be ordering some in the future. As for now, I am really looking forward to the arrival of my A314
Well even though you had trouble with TUTH you have found a use for it which is good. It really does come on strong and is best used in one on one encounters with someone your intimate with already or moving towards intimacy with. When worn out in a club situation it really needs to be buffered well so you dont come on to strong.
AMMO is a much better choice as it is already buffered.
If you have any questions just let us know.
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But don’t be disappointed, there are tons of great products.
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