Hello from Dallas, Texas

Hello Everyone!

I’m a 34 year old Asian male living in Dallas, Texas and I’m new to the world of pheromones. I’m 5’ 9" tall, 165lb and am in pretty good shape. I’ve always been introverted and usually refrain from instigating a conversation. When a conversation does start I quickly fizzle out and run out of things to keep it going.

As typical with most Asian males, I suffer from the nice-guy syndrome and almost always placed in the “friends” category with every woman I meet. I find that my career as a software developer greatly limits my possibilities with meeting and attracting women but I have made attempts to break out of the stereotypes.

Mix those qualities in with environments where I’m NEVER approached and you have one frustrated Asian man who will try just about anything to improve his social life. My objective is find the right combinations of products that will enhance my approachability; make me appear more like the kind of man that women approach and start a conversation and even a relationship with in addition to being more sexually appealing. I’m usually attracted to caucasian women but I’m not strict on my preferences.

Any recommendations anyone can give would greatly be appreciated.

Thanks,

-ShapeShifter

Hello and welcome!

Great intro.. thank you for the info.

I think Ammo will definitely help with pushing you out of the friends zone. It is a great all around mone that can be worn in just about any social situation as well. This will increase your sex appeal for the ladies.

Shine goes well with this, and pushes you into the spotlight more.

How are you with approaching women and starting conversations?

Hello and welcome to the forum.

Like Future said throwing a little ammo into the mix may well help you. It is none based and has enough to let the ladies know you are interested. At the same time it is polit enough to wear just about anywhere a cologne scent is appropriate.

IO can help with conversations. You may well still have to initiate the conversations but it will help keep them going.

IShine is also a good idea. It helps the poeple around you feel happy to be near you and can help with conversations as a side-effect.

As always, these products help grease the skids for you. They do not do the hard work - that will still be up to you. Try reading the firrst thread in my signature block for a realistic look at what the pheros will and will not do for you.

Hey Shapeshifter,

Welcome to the forum! Thanks for a solid introduction. I would usually recommend Instant Shine for a more fun confident vibe but as you are already getting into the friends zone I will back the votes to ammo for a slightly more sexual vibe, though not too OTT.

You may also be interested in treading the Mens section to see if there is anything specifically that jumps out at you:

Good Luck with it all!

Thanks for the advise. I will definitely give Ammo a try!

Another thing that I should mention is that usually, even though people feel safe around me, they are really never drawn-in to talk to me. Unfortunately, they feel safe in the same way that they feel safe standing next to a lamp or a chair; it almost makes me think that invisibility is my superhero power.

Future777, to answer your question, I’m terrible at approaching; it’s always been very sporadic. I’ve had some successes but most of the time, my approach anxiety kicks in and prevents anything from happening. This in part has to do with me not knowing how or where to carry the conversation once I open. I always feel awkward using opinion openers particularly because they feel unnatural and contrived. I’ve had greatest successes with openers that pertain to the situation or when a woman starts a conversation with me. Most of the time though, it’s difficult for me to think of things that pertain to the situation, and a simple “Hello!” fizzles out with no continuation. I’m trying to fix that by taking an Improv class which is suppose to help me be better at thinking on my feet (I’ve only signed up for it and it hasn’t yet started).

I don’t expect for pheros to solve all my problems; I just need them to give me more of an edge. I would like to have more attention so that it would give me the confidence to start a conversation. It would be enough that it draws people in, making them more accessible to open. There is no better teacher than experience and I’m trying to practice and have those experiences; anything that can help me along the way is always welcome.

Reading all the various posts, I’m optimistic about the potential of pheros for me. However, I’m pragmatic enough to keep my expectations reasonable. Based on what you’ve all written, I’m thinking of trying the following combination:

  1. Instant Shine for drawing attention
  2. Instant Openness for building comfort
  3. Ammo for adding the sexual element

Also, what do you think would be the appropriate amount to use for each product?

Thanks!

-ShapeShifter

Those are three great choices, and I think they will work well for you.

As for how much of each product you should use, it is different for everybody. We all have different body chemistry and personalities, so it is best to just test different amounts until you hit your “sweet spot”.

One that works well for me is 1/2/2 of ammo/shine/openness.

But like I said, it is all about what you find works best for you.

Awesome!!

I will place my order as soon as I get the $25 GC; that should help somewhat with the cost. I am really excited about the possibilities!

Thanks again for all the advise.

-ShapeShifter

I look forward to seeing your posts in the Men’s Section!

Welcome to Pherotalk Shapeshifter!

You have received some great advice. I agree that Ammunition will let the ladies know that you are interested and it’s also subtle so you can wear it at work.

For a more club setting and to let the ladies know you mean business I would suggest Turn up the Heat or Instant Jerk. In regards to what you told me about being stuck in the friends zone these products will allow the ladies to see you as more than just as a friends but someone they can really get heated with. :wink:

Instant Openness is good for your approach and will have them more chatty around you. Be confident and since you know you are using these extra arsenals take full advantage.

I intend to see your posts with some great results.

Your GC is on it’s way!

Ok, I’ve dove in head-first and placed my first order: Instant Shine, Instant Openness, Ammo, Instant Jerk and Turn up the Heat. I’m excited and might go experiment crazy as soon as recieve the order tomorrow.

I look forward to reading about your results.

I received the products this morning and I was excited to try them on. So I started with:

1 spray of Ammo to the front of the neck
2 sprays of Openness - one behind each ear
3 sprays of Shine - one on each side of neck plus on one left wrist and rub onto right wrist

This was around 10:30 am. I showered first before putting them on and then headed to work. My cube really isn’t in close proximity to anyone but it is close to the break room so there’s usually people walking around.

I’ll start a new thread in the Men’s Section to report my results but the quick report is that there wasn’t any noticeable behavior changes in anyone I observed. This is only the first day, so I really didn’t expect much.