Hello, getting back to mones after 10 years

Hello all, I am new here, seems like a great forum! I used to use Androstenone Pheromone Concentrate about 10-15 years ago, (I was in my early to mid twenties at the time, and never experimented with any other mones. I am now 36, (male) from Canada, and after reading several posts on this forum, I am interested in trying Ammo. I am married, and would like to spice things up with my wife. Should I go for the heavy ammo because of my age (maybe start with one spray), or just regular ammo? If it helps, I am physically fit, I work out, and eat right. Also, how will Ammo differ from the old-school Androstenone I tried 10 years ago? Thanks a lot!

Welcome back to the fold! :smiley:

Even as a fit guy, at 36 I would absolutely go for the heavy Ammo as no matter how good a shape we keep-in, it is inevitable that our Androstenone output falls a bit and as

Similarly, as a woman ages, she will near-inevitably mature into finding higher/more overt doses of Androstenone more tasty compared to a younger woman - and once into her thirties and beyond, the effective dose can rise considerably. So the heavy version is a good scent control and economy measure as even with 2x, you may find you need several sprays.

Ammo differes from plain Androstenone because it is a balanced/equal mix of Androstenone, Androstenol and Androsterone - So it covers the three main bases of phero use - sexy, social and masculine. APC is more straight-up sexual, which can backfire on some women as they like the sexual effect of the None sweetened by the balancing mones.

To this end, I would strongly advise you to consider getting some TUTH as well. Maybe the 1x to start with and use it by adding one spray at a time to fine-tune the sexual element of Ammo to her taste. That way you can make Ammo more sexual to a mature woman and once you know the number of sprays required and if they work out, again the 5.mcg version will be better value. Scent is not so much of an issue as its light Neroli is much less compared to Ammo.

Another one you might want to consider is the Experimone TAC - which in doses over 20mcg can have a relaxing/letting-go/orgasm-enhancing effect that complements Ammo and TUTH bery well in the bedroom. Used on its own, TAC is a kind-of silly/goofy/playful social

Ammo’s scent has changed a couple of times over the years. I think it was Game scent ten years ago but there was an older one similar to Nautica Competition. However Game is long-gone due to regulatory changes banning one of its main ingredients and the current Standard scent is FF21, which is pretty strong. Personally as FF21 is a very youthful “clean” kind of scent, I prefer to get Ammo in the “World Edition”/FF22 scent as it is more in line with my age. .

I’m glad everyone has had such a good experience with Androtics Direct. So far I haven’t even gotten my shipment, and it’s been 5 days, and they haven’t even given the package to the USPS at Beverly Hills, lol.

Spamming the boards with shite will not help you get any resolution any faster.

In fact I don’t think you will be bothering us for much longer!

Which would prove exactly how shady they are lol you are retarded

Which would prove exactly how shady they are

Interesting - Joined today, one post then straight into slamming AD. That’s more the kind of MO we have got very used to from some of the more shady competition.

Either way - did you raise a support ticket or email them? I’ve always found that beings a pretty prompt resolution.

And personally I wouldn’t waste money on one day shipping. The standard shipping for consumer line products is pretty bloody good. Typically 48 hrs to the UK. With only two failures in all the time I’ve been buying - Both out of ADs control, once due to customs and the other due to the worst winter in around a decade screwing-up the flights.

Almost all of the competition that I’ve tried, with two notable exceptions tend to register on the geological timescale for delivery. Often taking weeks or even months to deliver!

I did raise a ticket. But I’m mad that even though I was so excited for the product and have been waiting for a week, today I contacted USPS, and they said the package hasn’t even left Beverly Hills because it was never finalized, so it’s still in 'preshipment".

So if I get the product at all, it won’t be until much later. I mean, I feel bad about the spamming, but I’m just really upset.

Well let them know directly.

Doing this will not make you any friends around here and its made pretty clear that AD don’t do customer service matters on the forum because its simply not secure enough.

Can I go back and delete my posts?

If you hit Edit on each post, you should find an option to delete in the bottom right corner of the edit box, or you can simply delete/change the text if that option has expired.

I did go back and delete all my posts. I’m very embarrassed, but I’m glad I was able to remove them.

I just hope I get an answer and my product soon :frowning:

I’ve done the same - I hope you do.

If its any help, if you have not heard back in say 24hrs, post back here or PM me and I’ll use some of the less public AD addys that I’ve picked-up over the years to try and draw their attention to you - but remember they don’t normally work weekends, so anything I send on a Friday night (here anyway) may not be seen by them till Monday US-time.

Thank you! I can’t wait to start experimenting an posting! Have a good day!

Thanks mobocaster, great advice and real food for thought. I think I will have to experiment with at least a couple different mones you suggested.

MusicMan36 Welcome to the forums.

Mobocaster’s advice is spot on (as always) regarding ammo/TAC. I too use the World Edition version, nice scent imo.

With regards to TAC, if you get it, it will come in a bottle labelled ‘Molecule C’, I had a panic when I 1st got mine thinking I’d been sent the wrong thing, only to then find out of the name change, but a lot of people here still refer to it as TAC. :wink: I get a 30ml bottle in 10mcg Neroli scent, which I find as a great social mix (especially as a lot of the instant line is neroli scented, so they work well together). Again, I have to agree with Mobocaster’s advice on adding it to TUTH/Ammo, you will see those effects.

@Dollface001. I don’t know what you ordered, got a nice email for another post you put in the thread ‘Does This Stuff REALLY Work or is it Simply Just Snake-Oil?’ I won’t repost its content. :open_mouth:

I came to AD in October 2010 (6 years have flown by!!) with the very same thought. “Am I buying nice scented perfume or voodoo juice?” Came to find out very, very quickly that although not voodoo juice, each product tested did have a reaction of some sort on others and myself in many cases.

I’ve been experimenting ever since, but with regards to orders, sure mistakes do happen, there has been glitches with the ordering system, I’ve experienced it myself, but every order placed (bar one) has made it’s way to me in that 6 year period! I don’t believe AD staff works weekends, the customer service staff (member) maybe, but it can take up to 24 hours to get a response sometimes. Being an out-of-hours contact, I’d expect a delay; and I use a World clock website to work out the times in Beverley Hills so as best to contact support…

Time in Beverley Hills

As for the products ordered, Instant line products tend to ship out within 3 days, that being 3 business days, so if you order on a Friday, don’t expect it to ship out before the following Wednesday! Custom orders (and provided they’re actually in stock) can take up to 10 business days to ship, so again, it could be into the 3rd week before they get shipped. The most I’ve waited for a custom order is 11 days; and that order was big, lol, but it gives you an idea of what to expect each and every time you order!

You should get a series of emails as you go through the order process. For the past year, I’ve found that when I log on to the main store account with my username, that I’m taken to the shopping cart screen. That appears until the order has been shipped for some bizarre reason. I would’ve expected it to vanish once the order was placed; and only the order/tracking page show the status of the order, but hey ho, can’t have everything our way. :wink:

As much as I hate contacting support, everyone always advises me to do so; and within a few hours I’ll have someone checking into the issue for me, can’t complain with the level of service, they’ve been pretty good thus far for me, hence why I keep coming back. My advice, create a journal post in the forums, everyone reads it; and if you have a problem with something, post it in your journal and someone will give you good supportive advice in getting the necessary help needed to resolve the issue.

Hi MusicMan36,

welcome to the site. I agree with the heavy version of Ammo as I love the scent it can be over bearing so the Heavy is the answer to get more pheromones and just the right scent amount.

Ammo has None in it in addition to 2 other pheromones for status, and comfort/talking. I find Ammo is a great all around product to use around my wife and good for day use and I am also your same age.

In addition to the Ammo I would also get some TUTH also to help spice things up in the bedroom. This one is more None based and also has other molecules that intensifies the None as well for more a very direct sexual product.

I normally don’t suggest the putatives until down the road. But yes TAC is a great one to use with TUTH for a great sexual experience. If you are interested you can check out Jdub’s journal where a lot of us where his sexual mix which is TUTH/TAC and is very popular.

Also some other good molecules to look into are P96 for more an emotionally engaging connection with your wife and to rekindle the feelings and love in your marriage.

Good Luck and if I can help in anyway let me know.