Hi! I’m a 19 year old from the South who needs serious help with what pheromones to use.
My primary want/situation consists of which pheromones are best to use around a girl who we recently escalated from being best friends to something a little more. (not dating, but talking). We have hooked up a couple times but nothing more than make out and she is starting to pull away wanting to go back to just being good friends. I am hoping for some help from pheromones and yes I know they are not magic. At this point she does not want to go back, but the next time we hangout/hookup needs to be a success. I also am interested in taking past the makeout stage or at least among up the passion and physicality of the makeout. So, after reading Extensively I was thinking instant shine, ammo, and TUTH, but what are your thoughts for me given my age and hers (same as me)? Also, I definitely feel like I’m a confident person, but when I go to a club or rave or something I cannot seem to find the confidence to even dance with other girls–any and all advice is greatly appreciated!!
I can’t speak to the effectiveness of ammo, but TUTH does exactly as it claims it will. However, most of the other more experienced phero users advise against using TUTH right away and waiting to use until the relationship has progressed and you’re wanting to give your sex life (one that has already been established) a bit of a boost.
If the girl is doing the “yes/no” dance, I’d say you shouldn’t underestimate the power of some of the more social pheromones as opposed to just the blatantly sexual pheromones. If she’s backing off or has become uncomfortable with the new relationship you two have going, I’d even suggest using a little Instant Shine to put the both of you at ease, and perhaps some Instant Openness to make communication easier.
Then as things progress, there’s no harm in mixing a social and mood elevator like IS with the more sexual pheros later on.
I’ll give you the same advice that I gave sandman recently:
Be more sexual verbally. Let women know that you don’t want to be their girlfriend, you want to be their boyfriend. AMMO is good.
If you are getting to the makeout stage then you are are almost home. Women for the most part want to be loved. Be yourself, be romantic (flowers…ect). It doesn’t have to be expensive. A walk in the park while holding hands is good.
We have been best friends for over a year and she actually was the one to ask when we were gonna take it to the next level which is when makeout stage began.
Thanks for all your help and responses! What can and can’t be mixed like ammo and tuth probably can’t right but IS is good with anything?
IH, steered with IS will help with closseness/bonding, IH can go deep and not always in a good way but the IS should keep it on the happy track. You are probably past the IO stage if you are talking deeply but IO can be good for knocking the sexual rawness off TUTH in clubs and with people who are not already sexually comfortable with you. This is a good thing as it can come-on too strong on a younger guy around younger women. You need to provoke the whole range of feelings here.
IG is also a good one - it conveys status in a social manner very suitable for your age.
One thing, actions usually speak louder than words. Maybe its time you stopped just talking and started acting?
Also, I may just be stabbing in the dark here but is her talking/occasional hookups keeping you solely at her beck and call? Some girls do just this to keep a guy’s attention - maybe you should start showing some interest in other girls/finding other outlets for your time. That can actually work wonders for attraction and concentrate the matter nicely.
Ahh the IH thing Scares me now. I don’t want to be told she doesn’t really like me or something haha. I think you’re right about IO. I guess I’m going to order IS, Ammo, and IG. Are these easy to OD on and may I see adverse effects?
Well I’d rather be find out where I stood (not necessarily verbally), so I could move-on to pastures new, or not as the case may be but it is more likely your behaviour at given particular moment that she will reflect and if you drive that in an attractive enough way, the chances are good. Just don’t you be the one to press for a relationship, just go for fun and good times (in all ways) and let her make constructive steps herself first. You have plenty other options.
Saying that, I far prefer the IH/IS combo over IO in most situations - It still loosens tounges in a quality vs quantity way and is much better for getting into happy/playful/sexy chat that can just keep going. IO is great for breaking the ice with someone but can unleash a torrent of absolute drivel that may make you want to cut your own ears off!
Ammo is the only one you really need to be concerned about ODing on as it contains androstenone.
Have a good read of this, which covers all the main phero basics and pay particular attention to the “Sweet Spot” post:
IS and IH can be used to high doses very effectively (I treasure my remaining 4x IS and IH ) but you may find a “crash” effect after a good few hours and/or repeated topups - Tired, drawn and emotionally flat is how I’d put it. Rest and decent food/drink sorts that nicely. Similarly the androsterone in IG can make you a bit distant or put your status so high that people don’t feel they want to get close to you but again that takes a hefty dose and if you sweet spot properly, that wont be a problem.
So you think the IH/IS combo would be better to get the relationship flowing again and prevent her from saying the “were just too good of friends to be anything else” thing? More so than IG/IS?
I’m very fond of IH/IS alongside A314 - which works very well for my age.
IG projects a suave/status vibe much more in tune with your age, so I don’t see why it wouldn’t be effective alongside IH/IS at yours. It would enhance your status in her eyes and the IH/IS would keep the close/bonding/happy feel too.
But I would still be ready with something none-based to sexualise this when needed.
