Hello

Hi everybody. I’m a 27 year old male from Los Angeles. I discovered this forum just yesterday and I think it’s great! I’ve always known about the science of pheromones but didn’t know all the details. I was amazed to find that there were different “pheromones” to get different reactions. I always thought they were just for attracting the ladies. I’m very intrigued by all the various pheromone products and by the idea of mixing to get different effects, but I’m also a little overwhelmed. For example, is the CTTM a mix of a few of the commercial “pheromones” like Instant Openness and Instant Female Magic? What’s the difference between Instant Openness and Instant Honesty? And what’s the deal with the nameless ones like P79? Any clarification on these and any related issues would really be appreciated. Thanks all for a rockin’ forum!

Hey Matt (I assumed that’s your name) :smiley:

Lizzie here. Wow, you sure have gotten your readings done..

Yeah, I was amazed when I discovered this forum as well. Most other pheromone products are usually focused more towards sexual intent and upping sexual games, but Androtics have specialized to the point of producing many different type of effects. The information seems so widely available now, you just wonder how come other companies don’t get it.

Come Talk to Me is an advanced product, and I believe it contains some of the pheromones (Alpha-nols and Beta-nols) present in some consumer products such as Instant Openness and Instant Honesty.

Instant Honesty is more for deep conversation and quality, while Instant Openness just create an airy mood and invites more conversation, sort of like a chatty manner.

All the Ps are things suspected to be pheromones.. Kind of like experimental pheromones. They act like pheromones, but are not validated yet.

Someone will correct me if I’m wrong :stuck_out_tongue:

Welcome again!

Yeah, when I’m interested in something I usually dive right in. Thanks Lizzie! That helped mucho.

No worries!

Any particular products you are interested in? What exactly are you looking to help in your life by way of pheromones anyway?

Everything! I’m a fairly attractive and intelligent guy (I think), and when I’m comfortable, I’m the warm, outgoing guy that people like to talk to. The problem is I get nervous and anxious around large crowds or in certain situations (like around women I’m interested in). When that happens I can’t think straight and never say what I really want. And in turn it makes others around me uncomfortable. I also work in the TV/Film industry and I don’t come of as confident as I know I should. I can see 3 general scenarios that I feel I could benefit from pheromones: At work or in a business/networking scenario, Out at a bar or club, and On a date one on one with a woman. I’m interested in A314, Turn up the Heat, Instant Shine, Instant Female Magic, Instant Openness, and Instant Honesty.

Everything! I’m a fairly good looking and intelligent guy (I think). When I’m comfortable, I’m the warm and outgoing guy that people like to talk to. The problem is I get nervous and anxious in large social settings and in particular situations (like around women I’m interested in). When that happens I can’t be myself. I start saying things I don’t want to say or I don’t say anything. This in turn makes others around me uncomfortable. I’m also not as confident at work as I know I should be. I can see 3 general scenarios pheromones could help me: At work or in business/networking settings; Out at a bar or party; On a date with a woman one on one. I’m interested in A314, Turn up the Heat, Instant Shine, Instant Female Magic, Instant Openness, and Instant Honesty. Thanks in advance everybody!

Welcome bigmatt!

Great thing that you seem to have a lot of confidences, which is an important asset to the use of pheros.

Your choice list is almost perfect for all your 3 settings, except that ammo can be very helpful in clubs or dates! You can get to-go bottles, at least for instant honesty and instant openness, since they have overlapping effects and depends on the individual for which is better!

Hi BigMatt! Lizzie gave you good information, I’ll just add a little more detail. CTTM is exactly half-and-half alpha and beta androstenol. People tend to report lots of lightweight conversation occurring with it.

IO is mainly (80% as I recall?) alpha, with similar chatty/goofy/friendly effects, and IH is mainly beta, resulting in a bit more open or intimate conversation. You’d choose IH when you want to build more trust, rapport, sharing of personal information. Both IO and IH are also tweaked a bit with other pheros for smoother results than the CTTM.

IFM is very specifically targeted to women. IFM/m is for men to use around women, particularly hormonally afflicted women (PMS, cranky, menopausal, you name it) to comfort and soothe them. It’s buffered a bit to minimize the potentially depressing effects androstadienol (main ingredient) can have on some males.

IFM/w is for women to wear for self-effects and to affect other women they’re around. It lacks the buffering-for-the-guys ingredients.

The ones named “P__”, as Lizzie says, are putative (suspected) pheromones and the store doesn’t tell you anything about them because you’re buying them below cost so you can experiment and report your findings … based on this, someday some of these will “graduate” to recognized pheromone status.

PS - I’m going to second mockingbird’s recommendation of Ammo for you, it’s great for social/work/romance, all in one!

Hello Welcome to Pherotalk :slight_smile:

You have gotten some great advice above. I want to remind you that you should start with the consumer products and work up to trying the advanced. You need approval for the advanced as they are sold at cost for the feedback received in the forum.

If you have any questions just ask.

:smiley: Your GC will be in your email box in the next 24 to 48 hours :smiley:

Looking forward to your participation :wink:

Tisha

Hello Big Matt.

Welcome to the forum.

People have explained everthing pretty well to you.

My recommendations:

Social:
Ammo, Instant Shine, IH. (with residual A314 from the day)

Work:
A314 with Instant Shine to buffer.

I use the above combos and they do very well by me.

Feel free to ask any questions.

Thanks Bosshank, I was looking for someone to throw some newbie sample mixes out there. So most of you don’t recommend Turn Up the Heat? And I don’t here many people talking about Instant Openness. Is that because it has similar effects to Instant Shine combos (like IS and A314 together)?

Big Matt:

I would really recommend starting with the Ammo for a number of reasons. The Ammo has the same amount of 'none in it as TUTH except it is buffered by other pheromones and works much better in a social setting. Some amount of 'none generating the same amount of female interest, but smoother.

IO is composed mostly of alpha-nols. These generate general chatty conversation and are especially good for people who have a hard time starting conversations. It will not necessarily do it for you, but if you start they will certainly help.

A314 on the other hand generates a lot of respect, sometimes to the point of intimidation with some people. It can silence conversation and keep people at a distance. That is why I buffer it with Instant shine so as to generate the respect, but cut down on the intimidation which I do not need. Instant shine leaves you and others around you feeling happy.

Thanks Hank. I think I’ll get the Ammo instead of Turn Up the Heat. Does using cologne to cover the scent negatively effect the pheros (I know Ammo is a cologne, I mean when I’m not using Ammo)?

Don’t worry, colognes doesn’t affect the pheros.. Unless of course, if you’re wearing too much colognes that people start going, pheeww..