I’ve read various articles about pheromones over the years, but assumed that the pheromone products marketed on the Web were just rip-offs. Recently, however, I decided to experiment with Athena 10x and had a very interesting experience. (I may share in more detail in a future post.) I’m still sceptical–perhaps the fact that I was wearing 10x on this particular night was just a coincidence? But I’m definitely intrigued enough to continue my experimentation. I came across this forum and thought it would be interesting to try some of the SmartMones products.
I’m a male in my late forties who lives in Northern California. I have lots of women friends and have never had a problem connecting with women on a platonic level or getting them to open up to me. However, I have always had difficulty getting the relationship beyond that. I’m perceived by women as a “nice guy” whom they trust and “like as a friend.” I’ve tried being more aggressive and playing harder to get, making my move earlier and holding back, pretty much everything. Very rarely am I able to get out of the “friend zone,” which is why I’m still unmarried at my age.
Okay, so looking at the products mentioned here, I’m pretty sure Instant Gentleman is absolutely the LAST thing I need. I’m already perceived as too much the “perfect gentleman” by the women I know. I don’t think A314 is right for me, either. I’m a manager at work and a leader in my social community; sometimes I think my authority position actually creates a barrier in my connecting with women. And Instant Jerk doesn’t sound like my style at all. So I’m thinking I might try Turn Up the Heat and/or Ammunition. Instant Openness might be fun to play with as well, particularly during work hours–might help break down the invisible manager/employee barrier at bit.
Based on what I’ve described, do those sound like the best choices? Anything else that others would recommend? I thank you all in advance for any suggestions.
Welcome to the forum, Smellboy. Great intro, very descriptive, and you gave a good description of your personality. Your choices of Ammunition and Instant Openness sound good, as the Ammo would add a sort of edge to how people see you, instead of you appearing as the “perfect gentleman” as you described. You might not want to overlook Instant Gentleman though. Although it’s not as well-known as many of the other products here, some guys feel it gives them a laid-back James Bond type feel, and is possibly vaguely sexy. Turn Up the Heat is pure, unbuffered androstenone, and probably not good for the workplace. It’s usually recommended for intimate encounters with people who are very comfortable with you. However, if you wish, you might try it in small doses. Any idea why people see you as such a gentlemanly, nice guy? You seem to have a rather dynamic personality, especially since you made the decision to go about coming here and researching pheros.
Athena 10x is a legitimate pheromone product. I’ve had a lady try to nibble it off me.
Ammo might be a good bet for what you’re looking for. It has as much anone as tuth, but it is buffered with additional pheromones to minimize negative effects. IH and IO will help a bit with establishing rapport and breaking down the barriers you mention.
Ammo would also definitely help you in the dating arena, creating light sexual tension, and grabbing second glances from the women around you. Good luck, and I hope you have a great time with this, regardless of what happens.
Thanks for the amazingly prompt responses! Just to be clear, my main interest in these products is definitely not for the workplace. I’m a bit old for the club scene, but I plan on wearing them to parties and other social gatherings, which is mostly where I meet women.
As for Vespero’s questions regarding why women see me as “Mr. Nice Guy” instead of as a potential romantic partner, I actually have a theory about that. I think perhaps different people just emit different levels of pheromones naturally. And, for whatever reason, perhaps my normal level of pheromone emission is just below normal. I can’t prove that, of course, but if that’s true it would certainly explain a lot. At any rate, it’s all part of my current experimentation.
Good to have you in Pherotalk so welcome on board Ok i see you have done a lot of reading on pheros here based on what you have said there, good knowledge there
Ok for your situation like the others have recommended, i would suggest in my opinion that you try AMMO + Instant Shine + Instant Openness in a combo for better results with the ladies
Btw i like your avatar as i like the cute cat there & plus for the good introduction, enjoy your first reps from me
Wish you all the best in testing the pheros & see ya
I suggest you skip TUTH for now and go with Double AMMO. Double because you will use a little more since your over 40 and it will be more cost effective plus you wont feel over scented cause you will use less sprays to see results.
Next I suggest Ishine for a youthful charismatic upbeat vibe. This will work good in any environment but I love it at work.
If you have questions just ask and we look forward to your participation in the forum
I’ve had real good success with Athena 10X. I mix it into other products and it really ramps up the effects of the other pheromone products. I’ve mixed it with both Stealth Bomber and Pheromol Factor. Girls went nuts when I broke out the “Athena Factor 10X”.
The maker recently sent me an order form (she must have psychically determined that my financial situation improved), and I impulsively ordered another vial. I also ordered a travel bottle and I’m thinking of mixing it with the quarter-full to go bottle of double strength Instant Shine I have. By itself, the Instant Shine seems to produce similar effects to the Athena 10X mixes I’ve made.
Ok i see you have done a lot of reading on pheros here based on what you have said there, good knowledge there 