Hey hey -- Giving it a try :)

Hello all,

I’m a nearly 20-year old college guy in Georgia who has had terrible luck with girls. And by terrible luck, I mean I’ve never really had a girlfriend, never kissed beyond just a peck, and whatnot. I know I lack confidence and I’m working on that, but I figured maybe I can help matters more… I’ve been reading the forums here and on some other sites, and it seems that maybe this stuff is worth a try.

I realize that it’s not a magic solution, and the placebo effect may be stronger than the actual pheromones, but I’ll take any help I can get :slight_smile:. I’m working on my confidence and being more outgoing, but hey, if this stuff can help too, it’s worth a shot!

I’m the kind of guy that girls tend to be friendly with, but to the point that I’m just friends with all the females I know, nothing more. From what I’ve been reading, I’m thinking some combination of Instant Openness and small amount of Turn Up The Heat might help me get past the friend stage. I’m going to a New Year’s party with a bunch of friends, and there will be a girl there that seems might like me (judging from the last time we were at a party together, she was talking with me the whole night), so maybe this could be the boost I need. Any suggestions?

Anyway, this seems like an interesting and rather exciting forum community, so I’d just like to say hi to everyone :slight_smile:.

Hi missingling!
Yes you will be more confident mostly because of the placebo, but every bit helps, doesn’t it? It will give you the extra boost you need, trust me :slight_smile:
If you already have a lot of female “just friends”, u should try ammo first!
Instant openness is also great and can be interchangeble with instant honesty. Turn up the heat is also useful if you already know them!

Welcome!

I suppose I should ask this in the men’s pheromone forum, but it’s a rather noob-ish question, so… What is the difference between Ammo and Turn up the Heat? In reading some of the threads on here, they seem quite similar. Is there an advantage of one over the other in certain situations?

Also, I’m not going to spend a lot of money to test this stuff out, so I’m looking at the ToGo items. Are those one use only, or are they good for a few uses? I couldn’t figure it out based on the site.

Thanks!

Turn up the heat have have 3 times more -none, a male pheromone, than ammo. Younger people are really sensible to those. Never use more than 1 sprays of tuth, 2 max for ammo for your age.
Togo vials are 5ml, about 40 sprays, so enough for a lot of test. But they evaporate quicker for me

Welcome to the forum Miss! The Androstenone in Ammo is buffered with other pheromones so that it has a more mellow or smoother effect than TUTH. Ammo has a much heavier cologne scent than TUTH also. I believe that I read in the forums that Ammo contains the same amount of Androstenone as TUTH but the buffering takes the edge off. I hope someone will reply to this post and confirm that both products have the same amount of Androstenone. DrZorters

Happy New Year missinglinq! You’re right that it’s not a magic bullet, but I’ve noticed a major increase in my own attitude with TUTH, and I’m a lot older, so be careful and start with 1 spray.

The to-go bottles, as mentioned, give about 40 sprays. They can last for months if you don’t use them every day. Start small and work up. More is not necessarily better. Find what works best for you.

And let us know. There are a lot of young guys who read this forum who will be grateful for a positive report!

I have some advice for you other than pheromones.

First, welcome to the forum, pheromones are going to help you.

More importantly believe that you have the best luck with women. Start a daily affirmation program and convince yourself how awesome you are with women.

Get yourself some LLoyd Glauberman CD’s called emotions and Personal Ecology and Mastering Your Golf Game.

Also try Hypnotica’s Sphinx of Imagination.

Then start reading David De Angelo’s Double Your Dating, then move onto his Deep Inner Game. From there you will have built a solid inner-game foundation. Very Important.

Only from there will pheromones help you out.

To start you off on your pheromone quest I am emailing you a GC tonight.

PM me with any questions and I will be happy to assist.

I second what Steveo says. Everyday before you leave out of the house for 15-30mins total look in the mirror and convince yourself that you are what every lady is looking for. All the books SteveO mentioned are definitly going to be helpful. Before the New Years party, get yourself a hair cut, a sharp outfit (none of that plad or striped long sleeve shirts), be original and look different but in a good way, and get some nice shoes for the party (no sneakers). And as far as the Pheromone world goes…simply get Instant Openness (or Instant Honesty), Ammo, and Instant Shine. Thats really all you are gonna need to start off with and yes those all come in ToGo bottles…although I advise getting a big bottle of Instant Shine or Ammo and a ToGo bottle of everything else. Also note that pheromones only do so much and that they wont do ALL the work so you must approach the girl and talk, even if its about nothing.

wait wait… don’t approach the girl and talk about nothing, make sure you have a plan. However it is better to talk ‘about nothing’ than it is to procrastinate, keep that in mind.

Hello Welcome to the forum :slight_smile:

Dr Z is correct, Ammo and TUTH have the same amount of anone in them. 2.5 mcg’s

Tuth is unbuffered meaning it has no other social mones to soften the sometimes intimadating sexual effects of it. 2.5 mcg’s per spray. Works best in one on one situations or with girls who know you fairly well and wont become intimadated by the vibe. You can always buffer it yourself by using other socials with it. It is suggested you start out slow with small amounts.

Ammo has 4 active mones in it. anone TAA are two of those. Is less intimadating then tuth. 7.5 mcg total mones per spray

If you have any questions just pop on down to the mens section :wink:

Tisha

Welcome missinglinq, Man I used to be just like you when I was your age: I was a prude and afraid of rejection, never making any kind of move on girls. I had several girls that were just friends, but god how I wanted something more from them.

The first girl that I slept with made me realize that maybe I wasn’t so bad. And once I started feeling ok about myself, it was on; meeting ladies, getting dates and having sex came almost to easy!

I’ve got a feeling that once you overcome your confidence issues, you’re gonna be just like me, and there aint gonna be much that can hold you back.

Get yourself bottles of Ammo, Instant Shine and Instant Openness, take SteveO’s advice on the self-help materials, and you’re going to do fine! :slight_smile:

Oh, and you have found an awesome source for info on pheromones and a terrific group of people who are ready and willing to help you along the discovery path into the magical world of pheros.

Thanks everyone for the replies and great advice. I ordered a few different ToGo bottles to experiment with, so I will keep you updated on how it goes! I just had a party at my house last night, but the package didn’t arrive until this afternoon.

I guess the general consensus is to start using them now, and get used to the effects, or should I wait until the New Years party? I don’t know how much interaction I’ll be having with girls over the next few days, but should I wear them anyway, just to get used to them? Or is it more of an apply when they are needed thing? I’m also staying with my family over break; I wonder if these will bother them…