Hey Phero'users.

I’m David, a late 20 something from Glasgow, UK and completely new to the subject. Initially turned on to the use of pheromones while searching for dating sites.

Having recently come out of a 7 year relationship at the start of the year, I feel it’s now time to get back in the game and I’m keen to see what pheromones can do for me. It’s taken a bit of persuasion and although I wouldn’t be so willing to admit it to friends, a little helping hand might be in order even just to help with self confidence.

Although I wouldn’t say I’m completely desperate, I shall spare you my sentiments on the criteria of woman I’m looking for, coz at the moment I’m not even sure I have any. So, if anyone has any tips or advice on using, or the effectiveness, of any products available, I’m all ears.

So far I’ve been drawn to “turn up the heat”, unscented, purely as at a reasonable price it seems to be pretty concentrated and I don’t wanna feel uncomfortable with anything that I may not like the smell of.

Any thoughts on sprays compared with oil’s?

Thanx. :smiley:

Hey David

Welcome to this forum man! This will definitely help you ease into the game while you get back into it. Turn up the Heat is good as well as Ammo. These can be used to amp up the attraction.

The Instant Line such as Instant Openess, Instant Shine can increase the social interaction that you may have. Generally I personally like the scent of the pheromones and they come in mostly a neroli scent. It smells pretty nice actually.

In terms of oils vs sprays, oils will last longer and diffuse over a period of time whereas sprays diffuse more rapidly.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask! Enjoy man!

TUTH is a powerful product as I understand it. It could be tricky by itself, as it can backfire somewhat more easily than others. You might also consider getting Ammo, or another product along with TUTH to help balance it out. IH is a good one, as is IO. I’m a huge fan of Instant Shine, also - I don’t think I can possibly recommend it enough although if you read any of my posts it’s pretty clear that I’m trying to. :slight_smile:

If you’re in your late 20’s, are you looking for women your age, younger, or older? TUTH and AMMO are going to be more successful with women 30+, which is not to say that they won’t work with younger women, but your results will get more spotty. You might also consider Instant Gentleman or A314 - those two are both pretty powerful in a different way, conveying a sort of stability and a different sort of masculinity. By themselves, though they may not be what you have in mind if you just got out of a LTR.

Summer Ammo is also a fantastic one! Hard to overdo, in my experience. Harder, anyway. And it seems to work with a wider range of ages. As for the experimental and putative pheromones, people are pretty happy with P83 and P75 - but you probably want to wait until you’ve got some experience with things before you start going down the experimental products rabbit hole.

Also, be sure to read the stickies in all of the forums! They’re absolutely fantastic references! (The search feature is also great, although these days I tend to just browse through the forums reading post after post)

As a testimonial, I will say that pheromones have not only made a huge difference for me, but lately it seems like I’m starting to get even more benefits out of them than before! I think I’m getting the hang of the advanced products - either that or I’ve gotten sexier! :smiley:

Oh yes, and I really wouldn’t go with unscented. It’s not a good idea for most products, honestly, and it doesn’t do our helpful benefactors very much good either. Pheromones are kinda stanky

Well, if you are going for TUTH, you will be limiting the sort of woman you are liable to attract and the sort of situations you can use it in severely!

TUTH is a very sexually overt formula mainly intended for existing sexual relationships and can be very hit or miss out of those as it is the chemical equivalent of walking around with your cock-out. Clubs, “grab-a-grannie nights”, parties and the raunchiest, most sexually-charged places are where it will work best.

Away from those, you will likely get taken as aggressive, creepy or just too horny for your own good. Overt androstenone also goes down better with more mature women, younger ones are likley to find it too much, unless they are very comfortable and horny around you already - they tend to go for a more broad-based social/sexy signature that sparks feelings over a wider range. Mid 20s-mid30s is probably the tipping point between the signatures.

So if you are going with TUTH, you will really need to get some social moderation in there to make it more acceptable to women around your age. IO or IH/IS are two effective moderators.

Otherwise, Ammo is a far beter balanced social/sexy/masculine mix with the same amount of none (concentrated is not always good) that is balanced by social and status mones in a way that can be worn almost anywhere and is more suitable for daytime/work/polite socialising. you can then transition this to a more overt mix by adding some TUTH when you hit the clubs/heat towards bed. The Summer Ammo formula is also very good as it contains extra molecules that add to its comfort and “feelgood” aspect, which really helps around younger ones.

The only oil here is A314 oil, which is an excellent product for status/trust/signalling competence at work, particularly in a sales/professional environment and the oil-base is most subtle, wide-ranging and longest lasting/most economic but in the 20s, it can be a bit much in the dating/sexual arena as it is a very mature, high-status product that can put-off younger women who may find it “too good”, not fun, cuddly, serious or a bit too dad-like but you do get the odd exception.

If you are wanting more sexual oils, there are good products from other firms and you can find them in discussion here - Alter Ego, Alpha7 and Edge Essentials are all good ans well liked.

Going unscented will cost you another fifty-odd dollars per product and it is really not a good idea. You will end-up stinking in no time at all and the pheros will not diffuse at all well. The scent is there for a reason - it helps carry the mones off your body and into the noses of your subjects. The standard 6% Neroli (orange blossom) scent of TUTH and other Instants settles very light by about half an hour after application and will be barely detectable after an hour or so but it will help diffusion for a good six hours or so in out climate. Stick with that!

Thanx folks…Nice 1 Mobocaster, that was some pretty insightful reading. Mid 20’s to 30’s sounds about right to me. I’ll be sure to tone it down a little to start of with, lay down some foundations and mix it up a little.

Cheers.

Welcome Kenpo,

Well we all can use a bit of help and you would be surprised the amount of men and women some very attractive and successful walked through these virtual doors for some help.

I have my own experiences and you find that not only the mones but the knowledge and the pursuit for happiness and a better us is something that we all share and makes this forum special.

Your gc was issued!