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my name is elliot, im from omaha nebraska. I am extremely interested in the pick up arts, i study it in most of my free time, and go out to bars and clubs 4 to 5 nights out of every week. I am fairly successful now, and have been doing the mystery method of pickup for about 6 months, and when i added pheromones to it MAN the difference was instant.

products such as

-----TURN UP THE HEAT

( LOVE IT ) i cant even describe how good that pheromone is, i dont know how it works but i know that women RESPOND, and also CAUTION - turn up the heat is a really powerful pheromone it should be used with discretion but when calibrated correctly its results are amazing, i think the first time i used it i was just spraying, and spraying, and i walked in a club and BOOM all eyes were on me, but not in a good way. I later tryed it again with only 2 sprays and MAN same effect but this time it was ALL EYES ON ME FROM EVERY SINGLE 10 IN THE PLACE i mean everyone that i would normally have to pick up in the mystery method fashion was already attracted without me having to DHV the room.

turn up the heat can create an instant sexual attraction without you even having to say a word but it has to be used correctly i cant stress it enough cause if you spray to much then the results you will not like lol.
its either every girl in the place wants you then and there, or every girl and guy in the place think you smell really strong and its distracting. SUTTLE IS BETTER but PEOPLE THE STUFF WORKS

i would recommend not going over 3 sprays EVER passed that if the girl is not attracted already and your doing the mystery method then just give up and walk away lol.

-----AMMUNITION

I’m going to be completely honest I HATE THIS PRODUCT, its results were horrible and when i bought it, it was after i had already been using turn up the heat so i was very optimistic about other products after using turn up the heat and instant shine ( which again ANOTHER GREAT PRODUCT)

BUT AMMUNITION every single time i went out, i got responses like

" you smell like the forest" -

^^ ***MORE THEN ONE FEMALE SAID THIS BY THE WAY ***

or

" i dont like your cologne" or
" i hate whatever it is your wearing"

and i mean every time, i tried it SO MUCH, but to no luck i tried mixing it, with other products, i tried varying the dosage but the same result, every single female i would talk to ( and i talk to alot per week ) all were NEGATIVE in there response to the way i smelled, not only that but they would actually BRING IT UP, i mean turn up the heat girls just smell it and they dont really respond VERBALLY, as much as through BODY LANGUAGE

**** AMMUNITION it was ALWAYS VERBAL and it was blunt and it was always negative ***

im not making the product sound good and i feel bad to have such a negative experience with it sense turn up the heat was so amazing in its results but AMMO SUCKED theres no other way to put it

-----INSTANT SHINE

makes me personally feel better, as for others i dont really notice a response cause im fun generally anyway, i think it would be really noticable maybe to a person that is NOT very lively and doest bring excitement to situations, and i say that cause when i would spray it, it would make ME IN A BETTER MOOD and then i would go out and i would be even more fun then normal so i guess through some reverse phsycolgy it would effect others.

but as for a rating, if your looking for a personal pick me up INSTANT SHINE ROCKS i havent been able to buy a higher strength because frankly im cheap lol but i figure one of these days i will and maybe then i will notice the effect more strongly on others.

FEMALE MAGIC

i mixed this with turn up the heat and i do remember one gurl i was talking to being VERAL and telling me that she loved the way i smelled, and that was the night i was wearing it, i worn it a few times and i think its better to use in pure seduction format rather then at a bar, its something that should be used on a , one on one date at your place to set the mood type of a cologne BUT AGAIN I LIKE IT

ONLY NEGATIVE PRODUCT = AMMUNITION it was to a point that i didnt even use it all and still have it and it just sits on my countertop cause i never plan on using it again.

BUT I WANT IT TO BE CLEAR

i truly love turn up the heat, instant shine and come talk to me mix

i didnt talk about the come talk to me mix cause i had such profound results with turn up the heat a product i will be a consistent customer of for a long time, but all the same, come talk to me mix also got positive results.

turn up the heat 5 stars
ammunition .1 star *only that cause thats the lowest possible
come talk to me meix 4 stars * should be used for (day time game)
female magic 4 stars * seduction best fit

i want to try instant honesty im very curious about it so i think that will be my next product along with another turn up the heat

as for anything else anybody has any recommendations for bar/club products im always open for discussion and i intend on using this forum as much as possible

AND TO THE CREATORS OF TURN UP THE HEAT ( thank you )

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whoa… great intro! looks like you already have a good footing in pheros.

what version of ammo do you have? i have the one with game scent and my personal preferences aside, i think it smells nothing like the forest so i believe you may have the original scent, one that is spicier.

do you have any interest in expanding your current collection?

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Haha and welcome to the forum Denigro, from the post. u aint no newbie. You are almost as expierience as most here. your elaboration and reporting skills are quite good. You should try opening up a journal at the men’s section there and share with us. If u dont mind and have the free time. Share with us ur Age, Area of target (as in where u reside or where u are using it), ur country’s humidity level or ambient temperature when using the pheromone, age range of effected target and at what dosage u use of what product u use. It will be great help to researcher that is always contantly reviewing this forum so that they can make better product for u and me.

Just to let you know if you report enough and earn yourself a reporting user status. You get to buy some pretty amazing product at a bit much lesser price than non-reporting user. If you havent already know there are some great MX and P products in the store, which i personally havent got the chance to try it but will eventually.

and i just like to know. as a matter of fact did u use the Ammo as a stand alone or did u put on the TUTH then Cover it with Ammo and or use TUTH with AMMO simultaneously ?

All in all Denigro, welcome to the Forum. Oh yeah. I see that this is your 1st post. Tell us more abt urself although u already have, just let us know more info of you. If u havent already got it, then u will be entitled to get a free $25 Gift Certificate by just introducing and letting us know more about u.

Cheers,
Awesome

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quite honestly i first first started with pherolure thats what got my into pheromones and honestly i liked the product, it wasnt amazing now that i compare it to some of the ones ive tried here, but it was enough to get my curosity about pheromones going.

age : 22

location : omaha nebraska but soon ill be moving to san antonio texas

targets: consist of women in ages vary from 20 to 26 i dont go past that most often cause i dont really like women really older then me lol i think the highest i ever messed with was 28 thats about my cap limit lol

AMMUNTION

i tried it the first time i believe mixed with instant shine, ammunition to the neck and shine to the wrists
but consistenly every single time i got a negative reponse and i tried it alot because i had such a good time with turn up the heat so i figured i was doing something wrong

-i tried it by itself
-with shine
-with turn up the heat
-and in varying dosages i never went passed 3 sprays that was the very first time

*** consistent response of you smell like the forest*** which i remember was strange because it was always the same description from females of how it smelled, something always envovling the woods.

as for the version i have no idea whether it was the first or second edition

i bar hop alot and im really into p/u and have had excellent results with tuth and IS

female magic worked great for me also

but as for ammunition i really have lost interest in it, but i figure there wouldnt be more then one product offered if every product worked the same for everyone.

i dont doubt it probably works for someone but my personal experience with it was not favorable.

as for the experimones and more advanced pheromones i dont really understand what each one offers they dont seem to be described as well as the main products like tuth and all the others.

im getting ready to order instant honesty and try that at the bar and on dates ive read alot of the posts and people seem to like it so that is my next venture

any other questions just ask i’ll be using this forum alot

QUESTION - how exactly do you become an advanced user?

and i would like to become for knowledgable about the more advance pheromones any suggestions would be appreciated

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Hello Elliot and welcome to the forum.

I am surprised you did not have better luck with Ammo but there is always someone who does not mesh with a certain product. Then again it could be how and when you use it but we can explore that in detail later.

I am glad that the TUTH has worked out well. Just goes to show that the products here are valid.

I will also tell you that Instant Honesty is one of my favorite products. It helps generate feelings of connection and often deeper conversation as a result. Sometimes a little too much conversation about some stuff you might not care to hear, but you at least know what is on someone’s mind.

You become an advanced user but posting your experiences here in the forum - in the mens section mostly. It is definitely worth your time getting access to the more advanced products at a discount rate plus we may be able to work out why the Ammo is not working out for you.

Looking forward to hearing more from you.

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pretty good stuff man…
hey what is your dosage on turn up the heat as well as application points?

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when i first started i was spraying it everywhere there was an empty spot lol cause the effects on females was insane to me at first.

but then after a while of using it, depending on how well i know the female determines how much i spray, like if im dating her which i was dating a girl when i first started using this stuff, and i used to spray 4- 5 sprays all over, 2 on the neck, 2 on the wrists, and she would go nuts, but i have also noticed it depends ALOT on how close you already are with the female.

for instance doing 4- 5 sprays then walking up to a girl at a bar you will come off as VERY HORNY AND EVEN DESPERATE or atleast those are my results most often

but if you just do 2 on the neck or maybe one on the neck and one to wrist they will likely find you extremely attractive while your talking to them ( this is a consistent result for me personally with tuth), and the coolest part is they dont know why and you can kinda see it in there face, which frankly is hilarious to me.

but anyway

long relationship = 4 - 5 sprays or just someone you have already fooled around with but thats my personal preference

fresh meat = 2 sprays maybe 3, but 3 is SERIOUSLY the barrior to not coming off as just a horny guy that wants some it seems like, its really funny how much one extra spray can change everything.

sense i practice pickup alot i can tell how much the cologne is doing and how much i am cause the females reaction to the cologne seems to be instant so if i walk up and im wearing to much, most often the female will make an expression of being nervous and even uncomfortable in her body languange AND i only notice this when i have FIRST met the female and i have on more then 3 sprays and sometimes depending on the location stores etc should be no more then 2 cause you dont have to compete with other smells in places like that, it gets picked up extremely easily

if you just meet her and you have more then 2 or 3 on, her guard will go up, she may get horny that is possible also, i have had that happen BUT the female will experience extreme lmr it seems like, but 2-3 at the bar and your good.

4-5 to women that you have done stuff with atleast once in experience,
the lmr is gone at that point and there just taking it in, without there guard up and they seem to get extremely turned on by it.

but like i sayed it

(depends on location, and how well you know the female )

and the cologne wont do all the work, if you dont have some game to back up the attraction the cologne wont save you lol i have also noticed that you cant just sit and not be social and expect them to hop on you but if you have both TO ME THE EFFECTS ARE AMZIN

and i have only used the regular strength i havent really experimented with the extra dosages on any of the ones ive used but will soon expecially with turn up the heat.

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yea i dont know i have read alot of the threads and alot of people seem to have only positive results with ammo i just personally havent, and didnt personally like the reaction from it or the scent itself.

have you used instant honesty at a bar or do you use it on dates more for comfort cause i wanted to try to see if mixed with a little tuth if the female would be turned on and feel extremly close to me in the initial interaction or should it only be used on dates in your oppinion?

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Very nice commentary about the difference between 2-3 sprays and 4-5. Too many young guys just want to throw on a heavy dose and wonder why they do not get good results. I think you just spelled it out for them.

Edit: I am married 20+ years, mid-40s. I use Instant Honesty a lot with A314 to temper the “respect distance” I get just from using A314 alone. I also use it to up the “connection” value with the wife and in general social situations. Works very well with Instant Gentleman or Ammo for me. With the wife I will use it both with 'none or in a purely social mix depending on her mood, what is happening that evening (date night, on the couch with the kids about), etc.

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Looks like bosshank has already answered your question denigro. Yeah, to access to more advance product at a cheaper price u’ve got to post report. The report shall contain how u use the product, what dosage and what’s the results. For any example just go to the men’s section and go into the Men’s Journal and take a look. with not more but a little more post, in time, once u are constant, you will be upgraded into a status of reporting user with a e-mail notification to tell u about it. The email should be something like, user profile modified then inside it should say something of you being in a group. For example, Pheromone Group 2. the group number as i know have no specific meaning other than just placing u in a area for monitoring or something like that. With that email u are now a reporting user and getting cheaper rates to store products.

To check, Look at a particular MX or P product without logging in, then u log in, you should see the price difference there. To check on info abt certain particular product, use the search function. Go to the top with the bars of button, there should be a search button, click it. Then put in whatever product u want to search for the info and go on from there.

Hope it helps,
awesome.

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i know where mens section is, but im still confused of what you mean by the mens journal, where exactly is that?

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much appreciated man…
good post…
im gonna start messing with turn up the heat soon…
im anxious to start using it at my friend’s band’s concerts…
lots of hotties there lmfao…
i just wanna try for a reaction :smiley:

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Once you click and go into the Men’s Section on the top most. It’s above the new thread button. The Sub-Forum, name as Men’s Journal.

Just incase you cant find it. here’s the link

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH BRO i was looking all over like an idiot like " what is this guy talking about " but then i found it after you explained and I felt even more slow lol

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anyone else has any other questions about me just ask, i think i answered everything but if not dont hesitate to ask, i plan on using the forum as much as possible and definitely using the mens journal cause i need to report my results somewhere so that will work perfect!

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Is there a scentless version of ammo and if so does it work as well?

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I don’t know about the scentless version but in general, androtics products have similar results (for the same product) independantly of the scent.

Now, I’ve noticed from my own experience and reports of others that with some products (like MX135,235,335…which are same base, different scents), there’s a difference in range of efficiency.

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Hello Welcome to Pherotalk :slight_smile:

I to am surprised by your experience with AMMO. It has the same amount of anone in it as TUTH. It is buffered for a more mild arousal which people will express by complimenting you many times. Now did they just say you smell like the forest or did they say they didn’t like the smell. Frankly I think smelling like the forest is a good thing. Its masculine, It doesn’t smell like a prissy guy Its smells clean fresh outdoorsy like a male should smell. .

AMMO has more depth then TUTH. TUTH is good for getting laid, AMMO is good for when you want more like a LT relationship. Eventually that may happen to you LOL. A lot of guys your age are just looking for a sexual response which is fine but as you mature you will be looking for more so hang onto your AMMO and have fun with your TUTH now since its working for you.

Your GC is on its way :smiley:

Have fun

Tisha

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lol well that was only slightly insulting but thank you for the advice, ill keep that in mind as i mature :wink: thank you for the GC

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LOL I dont mean your mentally inmature, I am referring to mature in age, not status. Your young and having the time of your life now. When you become “mature” like me priorities change.

I Dont like saying “old” Its insulting. We dont ever get old we mature like fine wine :wink:

Tisha