hi all

hello all im George im 47yo live in modesto ca and just looking to see how these mones work out or me i have already recieved my order of turn up the heat and ammo im looking to try to get a friend to look at me in more of a friend way so anyone have any suggestions on what i should use and how should i apply what i have already bought

Hi there George,

Thats cool that youve already received your order.Hmm,the pheromones will help her see you in a different light but ultimately its your behaviour that will probably help the most to get you out of the friend zone.It requires quite a bit of effort to get out of it once your already considered just a friend though.(><)Would use ammo for when you hang out with her with maybe 2-3 sprays since your older but would preferably find your sweet spot for it which you can find out how in the link at the bottom.Then could bring the turn up the heat to-go and use a spray or two if and when things heat up.Would stick to ammo first though as turn up the heat can come across too strong and backfire on you.Youll need to flirt and escalate a bit though as the mones wont do all the work.All the best and good luck.Hope things go well for you(^^)

How to find your sweet spot...

Hey there ibrockenu,

Welcome to the forums!

I would generally suggest to stay away from tuth for new users, but given that women are more none tolerant around your age you may have better results with it. Of course still be careful that is very sexual and can ruin a girls view of you if she is not in a frame of mind to have sex. You could come across as overly aggressive / creepy.

Ammo is a great everyday / all around masculine product. It provides a sexy virile male vibe. Of course the most important factor in all of this is you. If you could tell us a bit about your personality and about this girl, her age and how long you have known her I think we might be able to better help you out.

Hello George and welcome to the forum.

Glad to see you here. I understand that you are trying to move out of the friend zone and into the boyfriend job. that is a very common aim of a lot of guys when they first here. But it can be very difficult especially with someone who knows you well.

Please just remember that these products are not magic. Women will not fall ot of trees nor instantly fall in love or in lust with you. They are more like subtle whispers and it is your job to get people to act on them.

That being said I would highly recommend you use the Ammo around her. It will be your base product. It has enough none in it to lt her(or an other female) know you are interested but it is balanced enough you can wear it to work. Plus you may need to act a little more like boyfriend material. I would give her a little while to react. If she knows you really well it may take a while for her to get used to your new phero signature and then decide to act on it. You may also want to keep your eyes open as other single females you know may decide to act on your new phero signature. Do not be so focused on one you iss the others.

And finally, do NOT use the TUTH unless you already have things going well. It gives off a very raw sexual message and it can get you labeled as a horn dog if you just throw it on for work or just average daily use. Be careful with this product.

Hope this helps some.

ok thanks eveyone for the info

Welcome to pherotalk George!

I know the men can definitely help you out with that.

To get that $25 gift certificate I need to know :

how you got to know about this site

what is your personality like

well i kind of found this site by just doing a search for mones i did some reading and decieded to join up also im kind of the nice guy type up beat personality never get mad go out of my way to help other people out

You may not want to hear this but in addition to what you have I would have recommended getting IH. Ih creates feelings of connection and often leads to deeper discussions. This could certain help in your case. Give off that sexy air then draw them in even deeper with the IH.

I also always recommend guys using something with the TUTH. Adding the TUTHto the Ammo when the time is right or using the TUTH with IH to buffer it.

ok cool thanks for the info

Thanks George and I think reading the introduction thread from Steve with everything you need to know from start about pheromones will be perfect for you.

How is ammo and tuth working out for you so far?

Your gc was issued!

thank you very much well im just using the ammo a few times 1 spray on the chest and 1 spray on each wrist havent noticed anything yet but havent given up any suggestions are welcome

Hmm,could try upping the dosage since your older.For a younger person is usually 1-2 sprays so you might need 2-4 unless your using the double strength one.What situations have you tried it in so far?Lol,i usually only notice hits from it during dates.Tried it with the friend your interested in already?Hmm,maybe try spraying a spray on the neck instead of the chest also.The chest is good for stuff like tuth to slow the diffusion but i find it slows it down a bit too much for things like ammo(>_<)If they are interested also,they tend to lean in to give it a sniff when its on your neck.(:-p)

yes im using the double strenth and we have only been hanging out twice so not much exposure yet haha so anything else i should try? i do have the gift cert to use and thanks for the response

Haha,yeah.not much exposure yet.If you still have the gift certificate,i find instant honesty works pretty well with ammo.Makes the girl more comfortable with you and have deeper conversations.Makes it easier to push it into relationship territory(^^)Hmm,for the ammo.Not sure what else you can try.Ammo generally just makes you appear more attractive so the hits arent usually that obvious.(><)The socials like instant openness and instant honesty are pretty obvious at high dosages though(:-p)

cool thanks