Hi all, I’m relatively new to PheroTalk and I’m thinking of getting AMMO or Summer AMMO.
But I’m unsure which will actually be suitable.
I’m currently in Asia where there’s no 4 season. Only summer and rainfall.
What are the difference between stealth unfragrance and the default?
Stealth unfragrance could be used together with normal cologne? (i.e Creed Aventus).
Its only named “Summer” because it was initially a limited special edition that got legs and stayed on the product roster - you can use it effectively at any time of year.
The default scents are just that - FF21, strong/soapy/youthful, FF22 - Floral/masculine/mature, FF23 - Clean/cool/airy.
Stealth is preferable to unscented because it still promotes diffusion and masks breakdown stink. There is a tiny amount of scent but you can indeed use it with a cover scent as well.
Some more info on yourself, the sort of people and situations you want to use pheros around would also help inform our advice better.
living in tropical Malaysia, where it is always humid and hot.
And I tend to sweat more than usual guys (going out for a smoke break for 5mins out of the office building and I will start to sweat), maybe because I’m plump, will that affect the pheros?
I’m thinking of using AMMO for dates during the evening or night usually as my office colleagues are guys.
I’m just curious will cologne i use (Creed Aventus) cover the pheros and make it no effect? Or would it be better to just solely use the scented and avoid using other cologne?
Hi Genese,
You can either buy the pheromones in STEALTH scent and then use your own cologne like Creed Aventus which will not cause issues with the pheromones, or buy it in a scent if you dont wish to use your own and not use any other cologne. Colognes that contain HEDIONE however have alot of pheromone like properties and can change the way the pheromones work so should be tested with and without the cologne to see the difference it causes and may need dose adjustments.
Having more body fat increases your natural estrogen and increases levels of the social pheromones (alpha and beta androstenol) which make the status and sexual side less. So AMMO regular edition would be more likely to work better to balance this if that is what you are after between the two if those are what you are deciding between. IG and A314 contain more of the status pheromone that is more attractive toward asians, with A314/b spray or oil may work better in this case if you have low testosterone and high body fat.
The high temperature will work best using oils over sprays when its an option.
Hi Genese and Welcome!
I agree with the guys. Being in a hot and humid climate down the road I would consider a high quality lotion to use because it will help make the sprays last longer, but at the cost of how far they reach.
I almost use the stealth for everything anymore so I can use a cover scent like you have. The stealth gives you the option to control the cover scent and how much and what type which I like.
I would consider the Men’s Kit so you get everything to test to see what is the best fit for you. This is the best option, but if you want a few to try then and in this order.
I would look into these. Ammo will be your most used one to start with.
Another question, do i have to use it on my skin or i can use it on my shirt?
Also does stealth (or so called no scent) works the same with scented Pheros?
I read up one of the thread which was asking the ability of women to smell enone, which makes me wonder if using stealth is maybe weaker then scented?
Lastly, it should work in Asia right? Since humans are the same?
Skin is best, yes - If you use it on clothing you will almost certainly find you need a much higher dose for similar effect, which gets expensive fast. Although in a tropical environment, you are less dependant on body heat to promote diffusion but in aircon space you will need it.
Also, some fibres (esp natural ones) can trap the pheros and that leads to smelly/buildup problems down the line. For the same reason, don’t use anything that contains or breaks down to Androstenone on your hair/crotch!
Stealth works very well but it has only been offered on non-Androstenone products till very recently, so the jury is still out on its effectiveness with the smellier mones. Personally I would use a cover scent unless I was in a low/no-scent environment at work etc.
Pheros work just fine in Asia but you may want to read-up on the racial differences in phero preference - Asians can show an affinity for Androsterone and be repelled by overt None but its a variable thing and age/background is also an important factor.
Oh and I should add that overthinking every aspect of phero use is very likely to work against you by killing the spontaneous nature of feelings/responses - Get some on yourself and get-out there amongst them. 
But my problem is that i sweat alot even during the night time. just leaving the aircon room of my house and wearing shoe, i would start sweating within 5mins. If i were to apply it on the neck etc, won’t it just get removed by the sweat?
Yes, heavy sweating does cause problems.
Maybe start exploring your least sweaty potential app points.
Also, oils are more resilient in these conditions.
Welcome to PheromoneTalk, Genese.
Your intro GC is now in your email.
Heavy sweating indeed pose a problem. So you have to plan out the best place (indoor) to use it. Oils can be very useful outdoors. Just make sure to remember where you applied it and be conscious enough not to swipe those areas with your hankies.
The secret with mones simply lies in congruency. Mones simply emit the vibes, they simply hype you up (hey girls, this guy is sexy; this man here is the alpha male; this dude is horny) and if you know how to live up to its hype, you will imprint a good and lasting impression.
With that, you won’t be needing to wear mones every day. You have to simply “remind” a person about your sexiness, your awesomeness, or anything a mone advertises you to be, by simply using it occasionally, in a perfect place (most preferably indoors).
So right now, if your problem is your sweating, make sure that you will always engage the girl you wanted in a location suitable for the mones.
Getting a bunch of empty ToGo bottles would be a good move too, so that you can have the option to bring the mones with you anytime, anywhere.
Happy Pheroing!
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