How does an Irish guy (like me!) GET SOCIAL with people in Poland (where I AM!)

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I’ve been reading this forum for almost a month now, and I think I have a good feeling about what the main consumer products do.

My current situation is one of those ‘trying to rebuild my social life and not become a workaholic’ times. If you look at my journal (link in sig), you can find a lot of not terribly exciting work-related sub-hits :roll_eyes:. The relative dullness is for 3 reasons

  • I’m sticking to methodically trying each product on its own, before mixing (I’m not just being anal; I really want to get a feel for each of them)
  • I strongly tend towards introversion, and I don’t always read other people’s reactions well. Hence I’m always talking about self-effects :smiley:
  • My main interaction with people these days is in work situations
    The third point is important. I have a good social life at home (in Ireland), but I’m living and working in Eastern Europe (ok, the locals would kill me for that, it’s ‘Central Europe’…) at the moment, and I’m not fluent in the language yet, so that’s a hurdle (though not a barrier: I can deal fine with daily stuff, at least), and I’ve recently broken up with my girlfriend, thus losing a lot of acquaintances and near-friends (without the intermediating girlfriend, it’s just linguistically too hard for both sides - none of them were really friends, anyway, just ‘the crowd’).

OK, so now I’m trying to get in contact with all the people I personally have a friendly connection with (including the ex-gf). I expect to have a few drinks with each of these people (boys and girls) over the next few weeks. While the immediate aim is to keep in touch with these people, I’d like if I got to know other people through them too.

That’s the first situation (or set of situations) I’m thinking about. I’d be meeting a guy or girl (just me and him/her) in a pub or something and chatting. I already get on great with these people, but I’d like to create a sense that it would be worth getting me involved in their larger circle of friends. Normally I interest people and get into cool involved conversations with them, which I love, but that’s quite a different kind of attractiveness - not the kind that gets you invited to parties :slight_smile:,

So, what could I wear? OK, I’ll decide on clothes myself… but what about pheromones :smiley:? The final part of the puzzle is this: no mixes, please. See, these meetings will be the first places that I get to really fully socially interact with people, not just interact as a teacher or consultant. So they’re the perfect place for me to get to know some pheromones in more detail. My inventory is listed in my sig.

Second situation is quite similar, but the friend is not really a friend yet. She’s a client with whom I got on very well, and she went to Ireland for a few months, loved it, and when she got back was IMing me about how great a time she had (in my home town), etc. We were going to meet up, but never got around it - I hope we’ll manage to arrange something soon. She won’t be a client again in future (no need), and she’s married, so no overt sexual choices (ok if it’s mild, to increase interest in socialising). I think we’ll meet, but I’d like to make sure that the meetings keep happening.. same aim as with the other friends, basically - I ask separately, because it’s transitioning from a client to an acquaintance to a friend. There’s a risk we mightn’t be so interesting to each other (if pheros can save it, cool, if not - no loss).

I haven’t provided any suggestions myself - I have a clue, but I want to confirm my ideas, or challenge them. Ask if I’ve missed out on anything significant…

Thanks!!

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OK, I know I tend to verbosity. So here’s the question restated:

If you had to choose one pheromone (from what’s listed in my sig) for me to use during a meeting with a friend, with the intention of creating an interest in meeting me more often / introducing to to friends / inviting me to parties etc … what would it be? There will be a few such meetings, with different people, some male, some female, all people I get on well with already in one-on-one meetings. So there can me multiple suggestions, but each suggestion should contain only one of the products listed below :slight_smile:.

Phew… conciseness is hard :slight_smile:

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Flamingo,
with what you have for what you want I would go with Instant Openness and Instant Shine. These will put you and everyone around you in social, friendly, great moods.

If I had to pick one pheromone that will get you invited to things and create friendships I would say its Alpha Androstenol (the main pheromone in Instant Openness). I would however vary what you wear at least a little on every occassion as well to keep people on their toes and still reacting well to your pheromones. Instant Honesty may be brought in at times as well as a ‘friendship deepener’.

Instant Female Magic will work well on female connections but will probably cause problems with some guys at least and may make you feel not so good. I would avoid it if you are trying to make loads of friends.

Ammunition, whilst a great product no doubt, contains some Androstenone - you might be someone who is able to get away with wearing decent amounts of Androstenone but if you want to keep on the good side of people and be popular with everyone rather than just getting laid I would steer clear of any Androstenone at all.

A314 may be useful at 1 drop but be careful about using more than that - it may be too ‘serious’ to wear if you want to be Mr. Popular particularly given your language barrier.

Anyway hope that helps…

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Thanks for the reply, Visionary! Some very helpful remarks there.

Shine & openness indeed make a lot of sense. They’re also the ones I’ve tested so far - Openness is great, haven’t seen much of an obvious effect with shine, although it may be s doing something I don’t notice.

Honesty - I might leave it aside for the moment, seeing as it’s not quite depth of friendship that I’m looking for. I’m sure it’ll be useful later.

Instant Female Magic, I can use with the female friends - I’ll be meeting them independently (they don’t know each other, for the most part: that’s sort of why I’m looking for a ‘crowd’). In group situations, I would be inclined to avoid it.

I’ve heard a lot about ammo being a good all round mix, so I’m surprised to head you deselect it (if that’s the right word). But certainly, in this situation, it would seem like IOpenness and IShine would be more precisely what I’m looking for.

In fact, since I’ve tested both of them, I might even use them together. Although for the first meeting, I might use IShine on its own to get some insight into how it works in social (as opposed to work) situations.

Thanks again!

Further contradictory or supporting opinions sincerely solicited :slight_smile:

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I agree with Visionary. go for a mix of Instant Openness and IShine.

You are looking for general conversation and openness. The IO will help on the conversation side and the IShine will help on the feel good around you part.

Save the Ammo for later when you are hanging out with the local hotties.

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Thanks, bosshank. This seems like good advice. I think I’ll go for IShine, Instant Openness, and IS+IO.

Combine that with ‘dosage’, and I’ve already got a lot of possibilities. Since IShine and IO are the only ones I’ve tested yet, it also makes perfect sense for my own research to start mixing them, and discovering what the right ratio of these products is.

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Yepp, Instant Openness + IShine is great advise for your situation. If you purchase more pheromones in the future you might want to think about getting a bottle of P74. This stuff together with IO and IS is even better!

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Thanks for the advice, bubblebob. Your suggestion of P74 is pretty valuable to me - renny mentioned it to me too, as having a ‘cool guy vibe’, so both of your recommendations give me a place to stand within the unsteady world of putatives :slight_smile:. Probably I’ll try to read more about this specific pheromone, keeping your description in mind. And then try it out, if I like the sound of it.

Oh, and greetings - you’re almost a neighbour :slight_smile: (I’m in Posen).

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I know what you mean. I’m far from knowing what they all do. But there’s some stuff that is really steady in it’s effects and might become as essential as the three big -mones one day! And P74 is my favourite!

Greetings back to my neighbour in Poznan (that’s the polish name I believe?)!

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Yep, Poznań it is. This place is probably as near to Berlin as it is to Warsaw. (It’s really strange how Berlin is so near the border, BTW. Post-war border shifts are to blame, I guess.)

OK, hopefully I’ll have a chance to test out this combination - IS+IO - during the week.

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Don’t be too quick to overlook IH. I don’t think “depth of friendship” is quite right; think more “depth of conversation”. Or perhaps simply “more connection during conversation”. It actually took me quite a while to see any diff between IO and IH. When you finish your ammo testing try IH I think from reading your posts you’ll really like it.

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Instant honesty has been enqueued… I’ll start testing it at the end of the week, so I’ll hopefully have an idea about it come Saturday.

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I think you will like IH also. It really kind of has a different use than IO, but I prefer the IH all the same as I like the “depth of conversation” better.

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Thanks, bosshank - I started to test IH today.

I just noticed the subject title has been changed to something more informative. I spend a few minutes staring at it, thinking huh? I wouldn’t write in all caps. :slight_smile: