Hi, I’m sorry if this questions was already posted, but my searches so far haven’t been successful
I’m pretty new to mones, but one thing I noticed so far is that it takes me ~ 15 minutes after applying the mones to notice any self effects, and ~ 30 minutes till the self effects are fully established…
So I was wondering, if it takes 15-30 minutes for myself to notice a serious effect, how long would it take someone else standing beside me to subliminal notice anything?
good question, I was wondering the same thing as well.
I’m assuming it would take a few minutes, if not instantaneous…since they’re (the mones) are already mixed with your natural occurances and are being floated out with your naturally occuring hormones/pheromones/etc.
Like in nature, the female pretty much instantly smells the male, yes?
First the choice of phero - some pheros hit harder and faster than others, then there are a few pheros that deliver over repeated exposure. Then ther is the quantity and how well that phero sits with your own natural output/demeanour and the effectiveness of your application points. You must also consider that not all individuals respond to pheros and not all to the same degree - Some will also cover their response better than others, depending on the situation, personality and degree of trust/attraction.
Then there is the carrier/scent and how effective its diffusion properties are. Oil and alcohol bases are also a factor - Oil is slower but longer lasting while alcohol is faster and shorter.
Then you need to consider the temp and humidity of your environment, along with other inhibiting/disinhibiting factors - eg is it work/college or social and the level of activity involved eg standing chatting or (say) dancing and proximity. Alcohol is a major disinhibitor.
But as a very general rule of thumb, you should be seeing results in the 10-30 mins range and with some pheros, a lot faster - Although with the sexuals, I sometimes wonder if this may be a warning that you may be in OD territory?
I just realized that I might be mixing up a few things here, if I understand that right now the mones show their full self-effect ~10-30 minutes after application not because my subliminal-brain takes that long to recognize them, but because they take that long to start working with my own body chemistry, etc., right?
And after that they 'd work almost instantly on anybody that’s close enough to catch some of them, just like my hungry stomach starts acting instantly when I smell a good BBQ
Mobocasters response to you was pretty spot on. There are several variables, molecular weight, personality, scent carriers, diffusion, and the list goes on. However many mones have effects almost instantly. There is a mone diffusion cloud around you normally. As long as the wind isn’t blowing it away, anyone that walks into it will be effected as soon it’s taken up by receptors. then it’s only milliseconds before reaching the brain and NT respond and so on.
Yes a subject’s recognition of pheros can be very fast indeed but IME, in most cases it takes a period steady exposure and congruent behaviour before the effects really begin to show - And this can be a few mins to a few hours depending on the phero type, environment and form of application.
Although saying that, I can cite some spectacular fast exceptions!
When wearing a314a 1 spray and ammo 2 sprays I covered with 1 million, I get looks immediately a lot of the time.
So its hard to say if its the mones causing this initial reaction. It could just be the cologne smell, or the fact that I look more “in the moment” and standing with good posture etc from afar that the ladies pick up by the time I get close to them.
It could also be the fact that often I am with a woman and women dig guys who already have a chick on their arms. They tend to be protective of guys who are alone.
Just my thoughts. Also attraction is also a humane response. Some chicks I just dig soon as I see them I think (“in my head”) i want to kiss them or do more. Sexual attractions is natural mones or no mones, but mones do heighten matters, sometimes quite literally .
One other factor, some people process the signals quickly and some take longer.
For instance suppose you apply mones then your with your boss who is distracted and very busy doing some task. It may take him/her longer to register and process the feelings mones bring about then someone who is not as distracted
Then all of the above mentioned factors that Mobocaster mentioned come into play.
You cant judge time of exposure on self effects. Your conscious of the mones for one. Your inhaling a lot more then those around you.
We all have a natural chemistry and I believe that synthetic mones do signal with it to make a mix uniquely you but they dont have to mesh with your natural chemistry to work.
They wont work on every single person. They are just part of the communication process. They will give you a edge. So sometimes even when someone is exposed for an hour they wont react. It depends how they process the signal the mones are sending.
I have seen some people process the emotions mones evoke instantly and some people take longer. 5 to 10 minutes is the general range but it can vary. My husband took a week simply because he already knows my natural mone signature and has preconceived notions about me already.