This got brought up on the A314 Insider’s Club part of the forum, and I’m looking for solutions to this problem.
Steve said that the alcohol in spray products mixes badly with the oil in A314, speeding up diffusion and generally getting negative reactions, on top of everything else.
This would limit your application possibilities for Ammo, IH, or otherwise in the winter time.
So, what would you do to get multiple products on you? Thanks!
although I know nothing about the subject, I didn’t really want to make another thread. So I apologize if I’m thread crapping, but since it has to do with how we spray I figured it wouldn’t hurt in this thread.
My question is, one spray, means the nozzle is completely pressed down correct? If its not, that means it would be less than one spray? lol sorry
Seriously! You put the a314 oil in a different place than you spray the alcohol sprays. Its really not rocket science here. Yes it is that simple 
Sounds right to me 
You have a lot of area to spray. Even in winter.
I put a drop along my jaw line and then ammo to my adams apple, IH to the side of neck, Ishine to the other side, MX7XG, in between adams apple and side of neck and then MX7HY on other side in between adams apple and other side of neck. Alcohol sprays can overlap. All I was saying is if you spray alcohol over A314 oil its not oil anymore. The alcohol diffuses the oil and it breaks down much quicker. That’s why the A314 sprays are not quite the same as the A314 oil results.
For me the results from the spray hit hard and fast. 1 hour and they start to fade. 2 hours still ok, after 3 hours they aren’t the same at all. I’ve reported on them 
. My personal research has revealed that oil needs to be 7 times greater in strength than alcohol. Its slow diffusing, so if you therefore add the alcohol over it now you have 7 times the amount of regular spray. Do some experimenting if you are really that interested in that part of it. I encourage it.
On the other hand though, just do what feels right to you. Have fun and don’t spend so much effort in where to apply mones. I truly believe that a majority of guys here spend way to much time calculating the effects, results, all the variables they can, before they even get out the door. Keep in mind that while you’re doing that, guys like myself are out picking up the girl you never even got to say hello to because you were to busy thinking about it. My best advice I can give you is to have fun.
so you obviously are holding the spray bottle very close to the skin to avoid ‘spread’ and overlap to other already covered application areas. I know its all getting a bit much, but at what distance from the skin should the mones be sprayed?
At a guess id say the closer you hold the spray the slower the diffusion, further away means faster diffusion as the spray has a larger surface area to diffuse. I wouldnt get caught up in the specifics to much though about 3 inches away should be fine.
thanks ghost, not overly concerned just being a little anal about the whole thing. I usually hold it pretty far away (8 inches) so I would guess there is an initial hit and then a fast diffusion. I will do a little experiment with spray distances. Its summer here at the moment so I’ll aim for a slower diffusion and closer spray.
Winter cold temp slows diffusion with alcohol?
Me thinks the alcohol in winter will help the A314 oil in diffusion. But like Steveo said put the A314 someplace different!
I would assume winter would slow diffusion of anything due to the lower heat your body produces compared to warm weather. When anything heats up the particles become more energetic and will more easily disperse into the environment. I’m assuming it’ll be the same with mones - in winter that could be a good tip tho, spray some mones onto an oil app point for quicker diffusion.
I don’t know about heat being a real problem, though.
I mean, as long as you’re indoors then you should be fine as far as diffusion goes, because the room will most likely be heated to a reasonable temperature.
First…where have you been? Nice to see yah
Second…we have spray versions of A314 now for that
You work on that and let us know how it goes. While you are, I’ll be picking up on some women enjoying life
I wish I could thank myself for my amazing wit
Thanks Steve for your incredible wit 
Actually been testing AMMO with some interesting results, I’m just a very curious person and like to know things in as much detail as possible. Over the last week or so I have found that a closer spray seems to yield better results for me at least. Seems to last a lot longer. I would initially have a couple of hours at most of effect from AMMO spraying @ about 8 inches, but @ 3 inches away from the skin seems to last about 5 hours or more.
Last night went on a day 2, still testing AMMO so its all I applied ‘initially’. 2 sprays @ 3inches. 1 spray to wrists which I rubbed on the back of my neck. 1 to throat which I rubbed onto the sides of neck. After about 3 hours and many compliments on the smell we headed back to her place so I could show her a taoist massage technique Applied The Edge to back of hands on the way @ a 5:1 dilution with Burberry. Results were pretty much what you would expect I’ll do a more detailed report in my journal when I get around to it.
Hi moses Im curious as to why you are diluting your edge, have you tried it straight ?
difference between the A and B version of the spray?
Spray vs Oil which is betteR?
Yeah it seems a little strong for me at full strength, not so much in terms of mone content, but I found it rapidily breaks down and I smell like crap after a couple of hours even if I try to cover it with something. So instead of spraying straight from the bottle and trying to cover I mix it now. Has the same effect but I don’t end up smelling like sweaty ass after a couple of hours I usually mix it @ 3:1 so 3 sprays of mix gives me one full spray of TE - 1 to 1.5 full sprays of TE seems to be enough for me, otherwise it triggers strange responses in other people. Have had aggression, ghosting etc… almost got into a physical fight with an 18 year old girl from ODing on TE, it also seems to be cougar bait at higher doses (TE 2 sprays + about 20 inches of SOE is cougar magic btw, last time I tried this at an over 30’s bar, I had the quickest pickup of my life, literary 15 mins from meeting to in my car getting crazy with a 45 year old Argentinian). Which is great if thats what I’m after at the time, most of the time I find a dilution of 3:1 is plenty. Just used 5:1 last night cause its what I have been experimenting with lately, its a little weak so I’m going to juice it up a bit
I’m amazed people can use so much NPA and not get into trouble everywhere they go, its supposed to be about 5x the potency of TE. Different strokes I guess…
I know what you mean about the smell, but Iv never thought of doing that, maybe I should try it.
Hey SteveO!
I have been around but not too much here and glad I see you posting again.
I have fell for some other products that we can not talk about, from the dry up here.
I still make a mix from here that I play with and was close to the Mx292 I think and I can not say enough about a good scent to project the mones back to the person that has them on. We (men) need more choices here.