Hi everyone,
I started using pheromones about six months ago and it has been a fun experience. I have tried over fifteen different pheromone products. There is still so much I need to understand but at least I know that they do have an influence on those around me. The first pheromone I used helped me tremendously. Made me come out of my shell and enabled me to make eye contact with people and to smile back at them. Before I used pheromones, people found me very aproachable and would make the first step to get to know me better, but I couldn’t smile back at them because of my anxiety. That’s when the pheros helped me. Eventually, I was able to deal with my anxiety and make eye contact and smile at people without the use of the pheromones. Then I started experimenting with other pheromones. It was fun to see all the hits. There was a big problem however, most people found me very unappraochable. I was getting the deer in the headlights, wolf stares, and the intense sexual stares and glances, but the only people who were approaching me were weird guys. Everyone else was either intimidated by me or women acted as if something was unusual about me, and most people wouldn’t aproach me unless they had to. Even the ones who found me very sexually attractive would stare at me from a distance. I stoped using all pheromones two weeks ago, including EOW and as soon as I stoped using them people have gone back to smiling at me again. I haven’t noticed the deer in the headlights or wolf stares lately, but people are making the type of eye contact with me that they used to make before I used pheromones. It’s the type of eye contact that leads to smiles and to getting to know me better. A complete stranger even come up to me, said something to me and immediately playfully patted me on the shoulder to get my attention. I know that there is no such thing as one size fits all when it comes to pheromones, but I would hate to think that I’m better off not using them 
It sure seems that way, at least for now. I’m kind of sad over this and I know I have a lot to learn still. I would really appreciate your thoughts and any suggestions you may have. Thanks in advance for your time and for sharing your knowledge on this subject.
hi cindy -
i’m interested in which products you used and which reactions you got.
i’ve only been on the site for about three months and on the forum for two and in that time, there haven’t been many products available for women.
in fact, i’ve just tried instant shine - with uneven results - but in the description, it says it’s for men.
my guess is - if people stay away when the product is on - it means it’s too strong. sort of like overkill - like if you want to look sexy, you don’t walk around the street completely naked or people simply think you’re mad…
i am interested in which products made YOU feel like smiling back. or increased your self-confidence and comfort levels.
take care,
ameena
What you need to do is find a happy medium.
Pheromones are tools for improvement. You have improved and eventually sometimes we outgrow the tools we are using. Now this doest mean you need to stop using them totally. It just means you may need to adjust your tools a little.
I have to run to the dentist right now but when I get back I will take a look at all your reports and see how you can adjust what your using so that your still getting the IOI’s and increased confidence but your approachability is not as effected.
I have found over the years of using mones I need to adjust on occasion as well. We all grow and change and in doing so our needs change.
Tisha
Ok Cindy I went over all your posts but there was not enough info on what you have been using and how you use it for me to make suggestions to adjust what your using to fit your needs more.
Can you list what you have and what you normally layer together.
I am especially interested in what your using when you notice the lack of approachability and the wolfish stares. Once I know that we can tweak it a bit. Oh and since your social anxiety is improving what are your new goals for pheromones use ?
Tisha
The mistake many noobs make is treating mones like a medical cure for a symptom. That is, they think mones will make the bad go away and they’ll appear to be something they were not before. Instead, many mones act like a more a magnifying glass. You don them and they amplify and broadcast your state of mind. If your persona is standoffish or troubled with anxiety, it tends to be more obvious and people avoid you. If your persona is warm, outgoing and welcoming, the mones do it one better and people are drawn more intensely to you.
I think of mones as little helpers. Persona tweakers if you will. I’m still 100% me but a little bigger and shinier. For mones to be effective I must work hard at projecting an appropriate persona. EVen if I don’t feel confident or friendly, I act like I am in words, deeds, facial expressions and body language. It is not unlike going to work and projecting a professional front to clients and superiors even if inside you’re screaming “die and eat shit dirtbags!” Eventually you’ll start to believe it and your positive persona starts being second nature.
Hi Tisha,
I didn’t do much layering in the past. There were times when I would layer pheromones with Instant Honesty. Lately I have been layering with some EOW with very similar responses.
Here are the pheromones I’ve used when I noticed the wolfish stares and the lack of approachability.
Pheromax: Only horny guys on the prowl approaching me with this one. There was even one man who would only approach me when I would use this pheromone. He seemed intimidated to approach me during the times that I wasn’t using pheromax.
Instant Sexiness B: Got some friendly positive responses from men with this one, but it also brought out the wolfish stares from some men who normally never looked at me that way. Didn’t really layerd this one.
EOW layerd with EST: Wolf stares and horny guys approaching me with this combination.
Instant Honesty: I never got any wolf stares with this one, but I noticed that it made people who didn’t know me uncomfortable to be around me. It tends to relax me a lot. One time my friends who don’t know I used pheromones told me that I looked too relaxed, that I might as well be wearing a pair of pj’s! On one accasion there was a guy next to me who didn’t look tired at all, but as he continued to sit beside me, he began to get uncomfortably relaxed. He kept glancing over at me as if he suspected that his tiredness had something to do with me. He was so uncomfortable, acting like he couldn’t believe he could be so relaxed that he finally got up and left. When he got to be about 20 feet away from me, he kept on breathing deeply and it looked like he was yawning as if he was trying to wake himself up or something, and he would glance over at me with a look of disbelief in his eyes. I only used one spray that time and I layerd it with half a pack of scent of eros.
Another time when I layered two sprays of instant honesty with two sprays of pheromax and some PCC. A guy who I knew found me attractive but he never really let me know it sat next to me and he began to feel relaxed and it made him reallly uncomfortable and he too would glance at me and eventually he kept turning his head away from me. Then he finally got up and left like he couldn’t take it anymore. A few days later, he turned his head away from me when he walked by me. A few days after that, he showed MAJOR interest in me.
I cover these pheromones nicely, so I don’t think these two guys turned away from me because they thought I stank.
I find that more women than men who don’t know me get uncomfortable around me when I use instant honesty, so I stoped using it in public after about 6 or 7 times. I have never worn more than two sprays at a time in public. This is one of the three pheromones that my husband loves on me.
I have never gotten any wolfish stares from just using EOW alone. Men love this one on me but women get standoffish and act like they think I’m different and they keep their distance.
I will post this now and will update later.
I have:
Instant Shine
Instant Sexiness A
Instant Sexiness B
Instant Honesty
Instant Openess
Pheromax
EOW
EST
Advantage by Dr. Amends
Cleo
PCC
Alter Ego
Mistress
Scent of Eros
Perception
Most of these don’t make me completely unapproachable. It just seems like most of the people who do approach me when I’m wearing them are men who are interested in me sexually. Lately when I haven’t been wearing anything, a lot of men are still showing interest but lots of other people seem to like me because they’re interested in me as a person.
I would love it I continued to get the same type attention I’m getting right now that makes people find me approachable. I don’t mind most of the attention I get from pheromones, I just want to continue to seem approachable.
Hello Ameena,
I was a little confused about instant shine, but both men and women can use it. I’ve also mixed results with this one. It seems to me that older ladies like this pheromone. I love it for the self-effects, it cheers me up. I don’t use it that much, but when I do I use it when I feel down. I close my eyes and I spray one spray right to my face. Just one spray is enough for me.
The first pheromone I used was Advantage by Dr. Amends. The self-effects were wonderful, specially when I used it in the morning. I felt happy and very flirtatious. This pheromone and a willingness to be more social helped me so much. I would have worked on my social anxiety but I don’t know how long it would have taken me to change. It was so hard for me to smile back at people. I wanted to, I really really wanted to, but I couldn’t no matter how hard I tried. It was too overwhelming for me at that point in my life.
Other phoromones that helped me with my confidence have been Pheromax, Alter Ego, Mistress, Scent of Eros, Instant Shine and Blatant Invitation. Instant Honesty helps me relax in social situations, but in my case it relaxes me too much so I’m careful to just use a one spray on my wrists. Scent of Eros is ever worse at relaxing me so I’m very careful to only use up to half a pack otherwise the self-effects are just over the top.
I like your theory about the amount of pheromones that I’m using. The thing is that I test most of these products for one week. Increasing a spray or a drop each day. The sexual products get me the most hits but for some reason are not helpful for me socially even when I use small amounts.
Hey Gegogi, I never used pheromones as a way to treat problems. I just wanted to see if they worked, and when the first one I tried worked so well for me. I was like a kid in a candy store! I appreciate your comments. One thing I have noticed about pheromones is that they do affect me alot. I’m one of those people who gets affected easily by alcohol, sugar, caffeine, etc. For years coffee use to gave me so much anxiety. It was terrible for me socially, but I was addicted to it and I just couldn’t stop drinking it. I couldn’t even think clearly. One day I had enough and I stoped drinking it for years. I went back to drinking it a few months ago and I’m so happy that it doesn’t give me any social anxiety anymore or numb me like it used to. I’m not saying that pheromones have the same effect on me, but I can see what you’re saying about attracting what you put out.
Hi Cindy
Thanks for the run down on what your using.
I am noticing your getting the wolf stares with is when your wearing copulins with the exception of IS/B. Pheromax has 3MG in it. You layered EOW with EST. Copulins increase a guys testosterone by 150% when exposed and when testosterone go’s up you will get wolfish stares. Its what its designed to do.
My suggestion would be to lower the amount of copulins your using. You want to project sexy feminine without triggering the mating response.
I would also layer some socials with things that contain copulins. EST is not social its more attentive and accommodating so I am not surprised the wolfish stares with this combo. If you add a spray of IS/A to that combo it will give you a stronger less submissive aura.
IS/B doesn’t have copulins in it but its TAH heavy which is very feminine and submissive. I notice a prowling response with it almost like pray being circled. You could add a dab of alter ego to lower the submissive vibe or if you get TAL you can off set the TAH with a spray of that.
So to tame the wolf lower your copulins and increase your socials and dominant mones.
Well copulins are very sexual and a lot of what you have on your list includes copulins. If your looking for more platonic interest then products like SOE, IO Ishine, IH, AE and mistress are good choices.
You should look into P74 or MX274 when it returns. MX138 and anything in the sunshine series. MX215, or even MX135 pack less of a sexual punch but increase social interaction.
Tisha
Thank you Tisha for sharing your wealth of knowledge on this board! I am so glad that I posted. It’s so much easier to see what the problem is now. Those are some great suggestions and I look forward to testing them out in the next few weeks.
I wish mones got me stoned but I get nuttin’. Not even a muscle twitch or heartbeat skip. Oddly, coffee really kicks me in the head: sweaty palms, fast talking, dry mouth, the works. Cures mild headaches too. Booze quickly propels me straight into hog heaven. Doesn’t take much and I’m a laughing idiot. Last time I smoked weed (in Europe) I got nuttin’ but I figured Amsterdam herb is crap compared stuff grown in Hawaii backyards.